Hillsborough could forest fans have done more?

[Harry1982]

http://www.latest-news-headlines.eu...r-other-things-we-learnt-today-may-21/1006366

Was too young during the disaster, a paramedic has said forest fans spat at injured Liverpool supporters placed at the forest who later died. There must have been a lot of forest supporters that helped but the minority that spat on the dead, well make of that what you will. Anyone who was actually there?

 

[Barry]

So we spit at the dead now do we, yeah right.

 

[Strummer]

What next, we rifled their pockets too?

 

[Barry]

He does realise that all fans were "locked in" so of course they were the ones doing the carrying as they were the only ones who had access.

 

[bloodred]

http://www.latest-news-headlines.eu...r-other-things-we-learnt-today-may-21/1006366

Was too young during the disaster, a paramedic has said forest fans spat at injured Liverpool supporters placed at the forest who later died. There must have been a lot of forest supporters that helped but the minority that spat on the dead, well make of that what you will. Anyone who was actually there?

how could we help ? we were prevented from going on to the pitch ? as for spitting on their fans. well if it did happen then it wasn't anywhere near me. all i saw was one poor (fat) liverpool fan laid out a few feet from me with his pants around his ankles and a t/shirt thrown over his face. the last thing we wanted to do was spit on the poor lad.

 

[Huxley]

One can't help but respond to this as Juve fans did to the grief merchants banner of friendship after Heysel.

 

[I'm Red Till Dead]

http://www.latest-news-headlines.eu...r-other-things-we-learnt-today-may-21/1006366

Was too young during the disaster, a paramedic has said forest fans spat at injured Liverpool supporters placed at the forest who later died. There must have been a lot of forest supporters that helped but the minority that spat on the dead, well make of that what you will. Anyone who was actually there?

Not that it really makes a difference, but it was a policeman who said it not a paramedic -

The court heard police constable Philip Foster was one of a number of people who carried victim Paul Brady, 21, on an advertising hoarding across the pitch.

When asked who else carried the makeshift stretcher, Mr Foster said: “There were definitely Liverpool fans that did it because I remember at the other end we were spat on by the Nottingham Forest supporters.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/hillsborough-inquests-nottingham-forest-fans-9304405

 

[rogerthecat]

Not that it really makes a difference, but it was a policeman who said it not a paramedic -

The court heard police constable Philip Foster was one of a number of people who carried victim Paul Brady, 21, on an advertising hoarding across the pitch.

When asked who else carried the makeshift stretcher, Mr Foster said: “There were definitely Liverpool fans that did it because I remember at the other end we were spat on by the Nottingham Forest supporters.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/hillsborough-inquests-nottingham-forest-fans-9304405

What were we? World gobbing champions?

How can you spit at and hit someone on the pitch from behind a fence from Spion Kop or the side terrace?

I smell bullshit.

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

I spat my pop out at home when I saw a bunch of scouse loons killing their own fans. Some of it may have gone on the telly.

 

[Joe Baker's Dog]

It's all our fault. We shouldn't have been given the bigger end...............etc.

Absolute bollox.

I don't know why folks don't admit what happened:

- Because of football hooliganism by all teams' fans meant that cages were put in place on terraces.
- The design of that end at Hillsborough created a disaster waiting to happen.
- Many fans turned up late as they still do.
- The Police were clueless

I could have saved the country millions.

 

[stockers]

Really responsible headline from the scouse rag! Maybe some people did but i'm pretty sure the majority of Forest fans acted above and beyond..

 

[derbyshirered]

Not that it really makes a difference, but it was a policeman who said it not a paramedic -

The court heard police constable Philip Foster was one of a number of people who carried victim Paul Brady, 21, on an advertising hoarding across the pitch.

When asked who else carried the makeshift stretcher, Mr Foster said: “There were definitely Liverpool fans that did it because I remember at the other end we were spat on by the Nottingham Forest supporters.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/hillsborough-inquests-nottingham-forest-fans-9304405

Well that's alright then,as the police have been the model of veracity throughout this whole process.

 

[Senior Flange Technician]

f***ing typical they choose to spread that and the poor old chap who broke down cross the paper but I bet they've not printed anything that has been said not in defense of the grief monkeys.

 

[Barry]

Thats the last time i buy the liverpoo echo

 

[Dr Sheldon Cooper]

I was there that day but pretty much in the middle of the kop so nowhere near the pitch edge.

As others have said we were fenced in and unable to either help or hinder the rescue effort.

I don't really get what he's saying - of course it was Liverpool fans carrying the hoardings - they were the ones on the pitch. The police kept us locked in for at least 90 minutes.

For all we know he might be trying deflect some of the hate for the police.

From my experience of being a Trent Ender since the 70's the leery f***ers tend to congregate at the back of the stand not at the front, with it being a massive stand they would have to gob the equivalent of an exocet missile to get it near the pitch.

I do remember one of the first people over the hoardings ran straight to the kop end and started to flick Vs at the Forest fans stoking the initial belief that it was a pitch invasion. I think he copped some verbal abuse.

That said if anyone did spit on them then they are scum.

 

[rogerthecat]

I can assure the Inquiry that I would not spit at a Scouser if he were on fire

 

[chib-e]

I would prefer a story of "Could Liverpool fans have done more?"

To which the answer would be yes! As without them this wouldn't of even happened. Yes, there was other circumstances but most people know deep down that they helped kill their own fans. It's just that nobody has got a big enough **** to say it!

 

[rogerthecat]

I would prefer a story of "Could Liverpool fans have done more?"

To which the answer would be yes! As without them this wouldn't of even happened. Yes, there was other circumstances but most people know deep down that they helped kill their own fans. It's just that nobody has got a big enough **** to say it!

Not quite true. Plenty of people have said it but the Scousers never wanted to hear it and now, to get respite from the campaign, it seems the Authorities don't want to hear it either...

 

[Fallon]

Have they now turned blame onto us as well, then?

Classy.

 

[Strummer]

It's always someone else to blame.

 

[alabamared]

I was there quite close to the side of the Kop where the ambulances were and the stretchers being brought to. I can state that I saw no spitting or disrespectful behavior in that area.

Id however remember on the way to Hillsborough being spat at by Pissed Liverpool fans passing on buses and at one point having a bottle of urine thrown at us.

 

[alabamared]

I do remember one of the first people over the hoardings ran straight to the kop end and started to flick Vs at the Forest fans stoking the initial belief that it was a pitch invasion. I think he copped some verbal abuse.

I remember that clear as if it were yesterday. He sort of slid to his knees in the goal mouth and had a scarf tied to each wrist.

 

[Rhods]

My uncle and granddad were at the game and are both doctors. Neither had any opportunity to get onto the pitch to offer medical assistance. There really was nothing that Forest fans could do.

 

[Earnie]

It's always someone else to blame.

In the Taylor Report (the most definitive investigation so far), the main reason for the disaster was put down to lack of police control.

 

[Harry1982]

Was young and only been to all seater matches. Didn't know the extent to which fans were penned in back in them days. With the juve stadium disaster and this disaster there is only one common denominator.