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Have we got the funds to be serious about promotion??

Red Widdow

Youth Team
Thats what Billy is asking in his interview after the Reading game....

BILLY Davies today questioned whether Nottingham Forest have the financial power to make the signings he believes are needed for another Championship promotion push.

The Reds boss believes his side would have won at Reading on Saturday, had they had the strength in depth to cover for the loss of skipper Paul McKenna to injury in the warm-up.

Davies again warned that Forest require more 'quality and quantity' – but crucially questioned whether the club are failing to make signings because of the valuations they are putting on players.

The club have pursued both Swansea's Darren Pratley and Cardiff winger Peter Whittingham all summer but have so far had all bids rejected.

"I don't think there is any doubt that this is a match we would have won had we had that depth," said Davies.

"We don't want to be predictable. It is clear as day that we need to add depth and quantity.

"Can we afford the targets we are identifying and can we afford the salaries that these players are on? That is the big question.

"I am not going to encourage anyone to be more aggressive (in the transfer market) because that is not my domain. My role is to identify and recommend.

"Then the big decision is can we afford them?

"Then you go out and do what you do. But the bottom line is that we must add quantity and quality.

"The process is simple. But, as I said, the big question is whether you can afford them? And then there is the issue of personal terms as well. Can we or can we not afford the personal terms that players demand?"

When asked where it would leave the club if they fail to make new additions before the transfer window closes at the end of the month, Davies said: "Working with the squad and the players we have got.

"And they are needing support and help, just to give them a psychological lift.

"I would ask you to look at the other squads in the league. Me and you can sit down and look at the other squads.

"We will look at the quality and depth they have got and the additions they bring in.

"We will then compare it to Nottingham Forest and you can tell me whether we should be a top three side, whether we should be a top ten side or whether we should be a mid-table side.

"I am happy to compare what we have got in relation to everyone else."

HAVE WE??
 
yeah thats what i was thinking when I heard it aswell, just hope the funding is there but if it isnt then nothing we can do about it now apart from hope we have eneugh depth to gain a mid table finnish and also not have to sell any players either
 
Billy is actually diverging from the official party line with those words - an actual sign of frustration? Or the words you start saying when you're about to leave your job... :unsure:
 
Well to be honest if we are really losing money every season (the shortfall having to be made up by the Chairman) then of course the answer is "No".

However if we are then running our business in a financially prudent manner, then that's a good thing (unlike some clubs) as we wouldn't want to be where Portsmouth and Hull are, would we?
 
This has been in the back of my mind for a while now. While Doughty has done wonders with this club and saved us from the brink etc etc, does he actually have the capital to push us forwards?

Did that 'spree' last summer cost more than we all thought, hence only one signing (Raddy) since then, with 2 loans thrown in?

I'd hate for us to become a Man City and thrown money at anything, or a County and have said funds never materialise but I do want the club to be able to follow through on their own promises and expectations.
 
Yeah we have the funds to be serious about promotion but whether we will actually spend those funds is debatable. You would have thought doughty would have learnt his lesson after paul hart.................... how mistaken we all are!
 
Should this thread really be titled "Guess how much of his £130 million Doughty wants to spend on Forest"?
 
Should this thread really be titled "Guess how much of his £130 million Doughty wants to spend on Forest"?


Or guess of much of that is liquid assets, AND how much of it is he willing to put in.

I would never of done what he has done, it must be such a ball ache owning a football club.
 
A major reason why we need to bolster the squad is that we have very little contribution from any players beyond our accepted 'strongest eleven'.

Lookig down the list of 'squad' players:-

Luke Chambers
Lewis McGugan
Dele Adebola
Garath McCleary
David McGoldrick
Guy Moussi
Matt Thornhill
Brendan Moloney
Julian Bennett
Joel Lynch

Whilst some of these should perhaps be offloaded and replaced, there is clearly some talent there that we're not getting the best out of.

We're also not getting many academy lads breaking through anymore.

If we could get increased input from our squad players and start brining the youngsetrs through again, I firmly believe we wouldn't need to invest millions in this squad...

...however, what worries me is that our existing players will see the lack of an investment as an excuse to start hankering after a move elsewhere...
 
jebus, if they come out and say "yeah, we got loadsamoney" everyone berates them for being stupid because other clubs will raise their asking prices. If they come out and say "we have no money", every berates them for not backing the manager. JUST STOP CRITICISING THE CLUB FOR 10 ****ING SECONDS!
 
TBH I think ALL football clubs look at the valuation and then say can we afford it - Normal business procedure. Every company has a budget to work to. The Board will know how much they are prepared to invest and in what areas.
IF (and it is a big IF) the Board want to go for promotion and sustain the club's position there, they will know the likely maximum and minimum costs required to achieve this. It is possible that the Club's profitability as a Mid Table Prem Club is lower than that of staying in the Championship. The risks being greater than rewards.
I still think we are holding back until ND gets some good inside info on the 2018 Bid. If we get 2018 he will invest and if we don't he wont. I also think Billy was told that at his interview.
 
jebus, if they come out and say "yeah, we got loadsamoney" everyone berates them for being stupid because other clubs will raise their asking prices. If they come out and say "we have no money", every berates them for not backing the manager. JUST STOP CRITICISING THE CLUB FOR 10 ****ING SECONDS!

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They are just coming out and pretending to be skint so other clubs aren't expecting loads of money for their players when we want them. :nowink:
 
Might be a clever ploy by Billy for Cardiff and Swansea to reconsider holding out for a bigger price tag on their players.
 
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