Harvey Elliott
- Thread starter David Layne
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MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
I don't buy this.
The only players who might turn their nose up at a club because it's been weakened are players joining clubs who have a shot of winning something substantial.
Players joining Forest won't care about that, they'll care about a chance to prove a point and get a move to a better club. Might even be that having Elanga and MGW out the way makes them think they've got a better chance of being a regular.
Major Oak Morgan
Viv Anderson
I’d feel much better if we got this guy. Please make it happen uncle EM
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Liverpool will want top dollar.
Elliot will demand a salary hike.
Forest will offer below what the selling club and the player want.
JonnoSnr
Grenville Morris
Luckily for Harvey Elliott there are no longer any players left to execute a style of play.
Cloughie1975
Stuart Pearce
I’ve found Marthur’s account again.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
Oooh you are awful!
But I like you!
Collymore!
Jack Armstrong
We'll see. I think there are other clubs he can use as a stepping stone, which are less of a gamble than we are.
Mozza
First Team Squad
40m with sell on fee or 50m with no sell on fee is what i read
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
Who?
There is a massive number 10 shaped whole in our team now, someone like Elliot is far more likely to join now than with MGW here.
Captain Sinister
Senior doom Monger
I read that as well.
It doesn't change my take on how it will play out.
Collymore!
Jack Armstrong
I'm not sharp on their current squads, so I'm unsure if they are looking for an Elliot-type player currently; however, if they are, Brighton, Brentford, Bournemouth, Fulham, Villa, and probably a few teams abroad.
What's his stepping stone plan? He's already at Liverpool. He's gonna come here for two years, improve, and go back to Liverpool? Spurs?
If he wants to come as he sees us as a good move, fine, but I don't see him coming for the potential to improve and get a move to a bigger club.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
We are in the exact same category as all the teams you mentioned
Collymore!
Jack Armstrong
Sadly, we're not. Those clubs have proven to be top-10 Premier League clubs over a sustained period. And whilst we all love our club, last season could easily be a 2019–20 Sheffield United to most neutral spectators.
But I hope you're right, we'll wait and see.
Rzar
Bob McKinlay
Sorry pal but you are just wrist slashing.
I am in a wrist slashing mood myself but you are not judging the club with any kind of sense at all. The clubs you listed are exactly the same position as us, we are arguably stronger than most of them.
Isn't that exactly what Elanga did?
Notcher
Ian Bowyer
You could say the same about that for any club he joins in England then other than Man Utd.
On that basis he wouldn't join anyone over here.
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Collymore!
Jack Armstrong
I'm just trying to put myself in the shoes of a Liverpool youngster, and then watching us sell MGW and Elanga. I don't think I'd want anything to do with us.
I do think we'll bid for someone like McAtee, and that's where we'll be back to as a club, just as we got MGW when he wasn't good enough for the Prem. That turned out ok, but we'll go backward first.
If we get someone like Fofana over the line to replace Elanga, then I'll be more optimistic, but all the players we're linked to at that level don't seem interested.
Collymore!
Jack Armstrong
I would say there's a difference in level between Man United Elanga, and Liverpool Elliot, but I take your point and don't want to kill any slight optimism there is, so I'll dip out there. Hope he comes, but I don't see it, and don't see us paying what's required.
Notcher
Ian Bowyer
So hypothetically then who would you say he would want something to do with in England? Ruling out the top 6 clubs because they are already stocked in those positions.
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Rzar
Bob McKinlay
So if selling players is the reason why Elliot wouldn’t join us, why have you listed Brighton, Bournemouth & Brentford as more attractive options?
I agree I am drained of optimism because the club seem incapable of getting deals done, but your argument is flawed.
YellowBelly Red
Grenville Morris
Interesting one. I’m on the fence with Elliott. I have watched a lot of Liverpool matches over the last few years due to most of my family being fans and I’ve always found him a little underwhelming. You’d expect him to be fast for his size but I’d say he’s average speed wise. He rarely takes on his man, although at international level that’s a different story. Good range of passing, good left foot and young. Plenty to work with. But a good indicator to me, is that drop off in Liverpool’s quality when any of Elliott, Jones or Endo come on for the starting mids is quite alarming. For the 40-50 mill this one would cost, I’m swaying towards saying avoid. If he. Cost upto 30 mill I’d say go for it.
Cloughie1975
Stuart Pearce
More chance of Steve Elliott-who came in the side in 1978 when Peter Withe was surprisingly sold (only for Clough
and Taylor to be bailed out by Garry Birtles).
Not sure it would be a gamble, we obviously don’t like it but we’ve just proved that if you come here and perform you’ll get your big move.