"Glory hunters"

JtheNorwegianRed

Viv Anderson
Been spending this morning reading random football news on the web. It's looking very likely that the goalkeeper from Aalesund is signing for Machester United. Aalesund is one of two top division clubs in my county, so it's something that the local media is covering. With Ole Gunnar Solskjær becoming manager in Molde, which is the other top team in my county, there are a lot of Manchester United stories going on at the moment. The most recent was from Bishops Blaize, which I believe is one of the main United pubs. They interviewed a couple of local lads about Lindegaard, and they were all positive about him coming and all that. One thing that caught my interesst was that none of them were going to games anymore, since they could no longer afford it. I then did a google search, trying to find out more about Utd supporters not being able to attend games, and came across a forum much like this one, where there was a pretty intense discussion about glory hunters. There's no point hiding the fact that Utd is the most supported football team there is, and their non-local/foreign support is huge. Without it they would not be where they are at the moment, but I can still understand the frustration of the local, life long supporters of the club, who have been more or less been pushed away from the club.

Though this issue may not be currently that relevant at Forest, I would absolutely hate it if the same thing ever happened , but then again, who am I to say so!? It's a dilemma worth thinking about! I've been to a couple of grounds around the UK, and the feel of walking over Trent bridge on a matchday can not be compared to any of the clubs I've visited. And I believe the sight of the Trent end, and the Brian Clough stand from that bridge, with a sea of red surrounding it has to look impressive, even for the non-Forest supporting person.

Now with the world cup bid, talks of a new stadium, and with Forest improving on the pitch, it's only a matter of time before we regain our premiership status. We can say all we want about ND, and money (not)spent, but I can not see us being in this division for more than a couple of years, at most. Forest would then attract more interesst from every corner of the world, and I'm wondering how you locals would feel about that?
I would make an uneducated guess that there is currently an average of 40-50 people travelling from abroad to watch Forest for each game. First and last home game of the season, there may be about 100-200?! We've been about 25 people from Norway going to the last game of the season the last couple of seasons, so it would be ignorant to suggest that it's only us who are going. I know there's a pretty big Irish following, and the other countries in Scandinavia have a got a fair amount of Forest supporters as well, though they're not organized in the same way that we are.

For me personally, being able to attend more Forest games in recent years has made me more of a football fan. I never watch the game on TV, when Forest isn't playing, but I've become a season ticket holder for my local team for the first time in my life. (Got promoted from the third division to the second this year) So for me it has probably worked well, in the oposite direction of what's "normal", but Forest is still my main team, and I will still continue to try and attend a couple of games pr. season. My point is, if Forest did ever attract the same foreign support as teams like Man Utd, Liverpool & Chelsea, I think I would actually feel like I was losing identity towards the club. Though it may seem selfish to say so, I must say that going to Nottingham, which during the season (not in the summer) may not be the most active tourist destination, I get a feel of going to England. The people I talk to in the pub, the people I meet at games, and the guy behind me in A-Block that tells me to "sit down you ****" :) is English, and most likely Forest through and through. For me it's a unity thing, and I would absolutely hate if that feeling ever disappeared!
But as I said, it's maybe selfish of me to be thinking in that direction...

Anyway, rant over... but would like to hear what you would think if the United scenario ever happened at Forest.

When we went to Liverpool we heard Norwegian everywhere around the ground, and even in the city centre... Same when we went to White Hart Lane... We're no different than those guys, but when I travel to Nottingham, I still love the identity of the place!
 
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I understand what you mean, and if things ever got like that at Forest I would probably end up curtailing my participation quite so much - be it on financial grounds or it just not quite feeling like my club anymore.

I'm not quite so convinced that attaining top flight status is 'just a matter of time' for us - but irrespective of whether or not the mix of supporters changes, or availability of tickets, the pricing in the top flight and the inherently uncompetitive nature of the league will be a turn-off for a great many fans.
 
the feel of walking over Trent bridge on a matchday can not be compared to any of the clubs I've visited. And I believe the sight of the Trent end, and the Brian Clough stand from that bridge, with a sea of read surrounding it has to look impressive, even for the non-Forest supporting person.

You are absolutely spot on with this point. It's such an impressive view especially in the summer months.


Whether Forest become the "glory Hunters" next team to favour in the next few years doesn't matter to me. If they start talking about going to Chelsea, Manchester, Liverpool etc and only just started supporting us then it's probably worth mentioning where they were on a Tuesday night a few years ago when we were being knocked out of the Caring Cup by Woking. Or the fateful nights in the play-off semi's.

Don't let it bother you, as long as you continue the support that's all that counts
 
if the model of Arsenal is anything to go by you can stick the Premier League where the sun don't shine. When the 20% VAT comes in their most expensive seat (upper tier on half way line) will be over £100.

OK it's £98 at the moment but its crazy a regular seat at a football match has broken that £100 barrier
 
I suppose it would piss me off, yeah. I like that supporting Forest is, by and large, for people from Nottingham, for us to share a bit of local pride. If it gets taken over by prawn sandwich munchers, glory hunters and non Nottinghamshites, then it'd be a shame I think.

Plus I'd be priced out of my season ticket.

The odd person like you supporting Forest does no harm, and its good that you support your local team as well. Maybe we should all descend on Norway and cheer your team on to return the favour. What's "sit down you ****" in Norsk? lol
 
sett deg ned di fitte... :)

And with Hødd (local team) having an average home attendance around 800 - 1000 in Div 3, it would be good to get a couple of people from here to boost that amount for a game or two! ;) That being said, they were the team in that division with the highest attendance, so not too bad I guess. There`s only 10.000 living there, so... lower division teams from the larger cities have terrible support over here...
 
I suppose it would piss me off, yeah. I like that supporting Forest is, by and large, for people from Nottingham, for us to share a bit of local pride. If it gets taken over by prawn sandwich munchers, glory hunters and non Nottinghamshites, then it'd be a shame I think.

Plus I'd be priced out of my season ticket.

The odd person like you supporting Forest does no harm, and its good that you support your local team as well. Maybe we should all descend on Norway and cheer your team on to return the favour. What's "sit down you ****" in Norsk? lol

That's me. :) I understand the local pride for Forest, but they are my only team (having a 2nd club is complete heresy). I have supported this club for a long time and the fact that I can only get to one match a year is due only to my work schedule and that small problem of the Atlantic Ocean between us. I've had people ask me why I go to Nottingham every year, why not Rome or Paris or wherever. My response is that those places don't have the castle, great curry, Olde Trip Ale, that walk across Trent Bridge and first glimpsing the CG, and most of all, those places don't have Nottingham Forest Football Club. I understand that a football club is for its local supporters, but it can also be for those of us who obsessively follow Forest from afar and absolutely love the city of Nottingham.
 
Glory Hunters can sometimes come in handy as the butt of our jokes too - anyone who saw the wonderful "For those of you in blue, this is what the European Cup looks like" banner displayed against Chelsea in the FA Cup tie a few seasons ago will know that!

But what makes a "glory hunter"? I'm sure there are Forest fans of today who started watching the Reds during the success of the 70s who are still watching them today?

I fell in love with Forest as a kid in the mid-70s, but they were my "local" team, living in Newark at the time! The love affair persists to this day.
 
Slightly off-topic but I was in Malaysia a few years ago and there was a deal being advertised on TV by air malaysia for a return flight to the UK including man u or chelsea tickets. Pretty mental really, I don't know who their target market was but to even bother with a TV ad there must have been a few people likely to take it. No surprise your average mancunian can't compete with that.
 
I'm sure there are Forest fans of today who started watching the Reds during the success of the 70s who are still watching them today?

I'm one of them. I grew up nowhere near a football league club so had no natural draw to one club. It also meant that my friends supported a wide range of clubs so there was no 'gang' to be part of either. Finally, my dad was never a big football fan so did little to encourage me to support his team - West Ham.

All that led me to pick a team and thanks to Sir Brian it was Forest. I like to think that my support ever since, but especially the last ten years, marks me down as anything but a gloryhunter :D:D.
 
It's all well and good people saying you should support your local club but what if you live by Anfield?

*Newsflash* - loads of things from the same place as wherever you're from are shit.

If a club's right there and you start supporting them, fine... but Forest could be from Cornwall and the traditional fair, attractive passing style of play (yes, I know, I know) would still be something that'd win them my support over most clubs I've ever lived near.

Glory hunting fans will never be a huge problem at Forest, even if we do better - there was a goldrush, it's over, we missed it. I'm almost relieved, but not quite.
 
*Newsflash* - loads of things from the same place as wherever you're from are shit.

So, Forest were shit in League 1 a few seasons ago, I went anyway, because they're Nottingham's team, and I was born here and I live here ...
 
I love the idea of travelling to Norway en mass to support your local team, what about a game when we're out there. I want to be John Robertson! I'm left footed, used to play on the wing and I'm fat. Anyone for a chip butty and a deep fried mars bar?
 
That's me. :) I understand the local pride for Forest, but they are my only team (having a 2nd club is complete heresy). I have supported this club for a long time and the fact that I can only get to one match a year is due only to my work schedule and that small problem of the Atlantic Ocean between us. I've had people ask me why I go to Nottingham every year, why not Rome or Paris or wherever. My response is that those places don't have the castle, great curry, Olde Trip Ale, that walk across Trent Bridge and first glimpsing the CG, and most of all, those places don't have Nottingham Forest Football Club. I understand that a football club is for its local supporters, but it can also be for those of us who obsessively follow Forest from afar and absolutely love the city of Nottingham.

Are you originally from Nottinghamshire? Just wondering how you come to support Forest living that far away
 
Are you originally from Nottinghamshire? Just wondering how you come to support Forest living that far away

I came to support Forest when I was very young. They used to have a show on public tv over here that showed one match per week from England. I watched a dour 0-0 cup tie v. Posh in January 1976. It was the first time I saw Forest and the great John Robertson. Fell in love with the team, the name and of course Robbo. Started coming to Nottingham when I was much older and absolutely love the place. I feel like Nottingham is my town (even though I've got a very strange accent :) ). UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU RRRRRRRRRRRREDDDDDDDDDSSSSSSSS!
 
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