Glastonbury

Harvey

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Maybe some of the later festivals will get lucky like Leeds/Reading, Bestival or Creamfields as they are all at the end of August/early September.

One of the festivals I was talking about with my mate was TRNSMT which is mid-July (effective T-in-the-Park) and this would be borderline. But I'm sceptical.

I think the problem is the lead time. Glastonbury isn't until June but they've called it off now because they can't guarantee what the situation is going to be in five months time.

So following the same logic any festivals scheduled for August / September will need to know they'll be able to go ahead circa March / April

Which to be honest isn't looking likely
 

Viktor

Warp Speed Chic
Maybe some of the later festivals will get lucky like Leeds/Reading, Bestival or Creamfields as they are all at the end of August/early September.

One of the festivals I was talking about with my mate was TRNSMT which is mid-July (effective T-in-the-Park) and this would be borderline. But I'm sceptical.
Went to TRNSMT for a day in 2018, was great.

Loved Glasgow as well
 

Strummer

Orel Mangala Fan Club
I was going to go to Lollapalooza Berlin last July, but it was (obviously) cancelled.

It was originally pencilled-in for this July, but with the situation in Germany I just cannot see it happening this year at all.
 

Redemption

Bastards on the Road
I think the problem is the lead time. Glastonbury isn't until June but they've called it off now because they can't guarantee what the situation is going to be in five months time.

So following the same logic any festivals scheduled for August / September will need to know they'll be able to go ahead circa March / April

Which to be honest isn't looking likely



It's not.

I've worked in the festival industry. The first festival I worked on was Global Gathering in 1996. The last was Creamfields in 2019. OK, I'm just a litter-picker, but I know something about it having probably done 100ish.

I was talking with my mate last night because he's been talking to promoters. Some of them are still thinking about it. I'll defer to them at this point.

The planning for a festival is a small group of people. The Creamfields team is about 10 people all year round. John Giden's Solo, who put on the Isle of Wight, is about 8. And then you buy in expertise for the actual production when teams will grow to the 100s. But production teams - this gives you an idea of the actual lead in times - will do 2 or 3 festivals over the summer because you only really to 6-8 weeks for about 95% of the production to come together. The job I do starts about 4 weeks before a festival and an is just a few hours per week until the latter part of the week before hand then its like a part-time job into the week of the festival. Then its full-on double shifts until its over.

As you get closer to the event the most important thing is the licensing application, but that doesn't have to be completed for ages.

Almost every part of the plant-hire - the biggest cost by a long chalk - is not committed until the site is getting built and then some it will be provisional right up to the day based on last-minute sales. If you get a licence for 60k crowds and you've only sold 50k tickets, you don't put on camping for 60K people!

Probably the biggest risk at the moment is booking the Acts. Usually there is ano leaway with this at all, you need to book well in advance and it is competitive. But I think because of the circumstances I think bookings will be done much later - they probably talking and have provisional line-ups and if it looks like its going ahead Ticket Sales will be easy.

The most unknown thing of all is the regulations. They might change by the end of the summer, the question is when we will know and how long will the promoter edge their bets.

As I said before, Glastonbury will start a domino effect but those festivals that come at the end of the season the will hang for a while yet.
 

Harvey

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It's not.

I've worked in the festival industry. The first festival I worked on was Global Gathering in 1996. The last was Creamfields in 2019. OK, I'm just a litter-picker, but I know something about it having probably done 100ish.

I was talking with my mate last night because he's been talking to promoters. Some of them are still thinking about it. I'll defer to them at this point.

The planning for a festival is a small group of people. The Creamfields team is about 10 people all year round. John Giden's Solo, who put on the Isle of Wight, is about 8. And then you buy in expertise for the actual production when teams will grow to the 100s. But production teams - this gives you an idea of the actual lead in times - will do 2 or 3 festivals over the summer because you only really to 6-8 weeks for about 95% of the production to come together. The job I do starts about 4 weeks before a festival and an is just a few hours per week until the latter part of the week before hand then its like a part-time job into the week of the festival. Then its full-on double shifts until its over.

As you get closer to the event the most important thing is the licensing application, but that doesn't have to be completed for ages.

Almost every part of the plant-hire - the biggest cost by a long chalk - is not committed until the site is getting built and then some it will be provisional right up to the day based on last-minute sales. If you get a licence for 60k crowds and you've only sold 50k tickets, you don't put on camping for 60K people!

Probably the biggest risk at the moment is booking the Acts. Usually there is ano leaway with this at all, you need to book well in advance and it is competitive. But I think because of the circumstances I think bookings will be done much later - they probably talking and have provisional line-ups and if it looks like its going ahead Ticket Sales will be easy.

The most unknown thing of all is the regulations. They might change by the end of the summer, the question is when we will know and how long will the promoter edge their bets.

As I said before, Glastonbury will start a domino effect but those festivals that come at the end of the season the will hang for a while yet.

Good insight and I defer to your greater experience Redemption
 

Strummer

Orel Mangala Fan Club
It's not.

I've worked in the festival industry. The first festival I worked on was Global Gathering in 1996. The last was Creamfields in 2019. OK, I'm just a litter-picker, but I know something about it having probably done 100ish.

I was talking with my mate last night because he's been talking to promoters. Some of them are still thinking about it. I'll defer to them at this point.

The planning for a festival is a small group of people. The Creamfields team is about 10 people all year round. John Giden's Solo, who put on the Isle of Wight, is about 8. And then you buy in expertise for the actual production when teams will grow to the 100s. But production teams - this gives you an idea of the actual lead in times - will do 2 or 3 festivals over the summer because you only really to 6-8 weeks for about 95% of the production to come together. The job I do starts about 4 weeks before a festival and an is just a few hours per week until the latter part of the week before hand then its like a part-time job into the week of the festival. Then its full-on double shifts until its over.

As you get closer to the event the most important thing is the licensing application, but that doesn't have to be completed for ages.

Almost every part of the plant-hire - the biggest cost by a long chalk - is not committed until the site is getting built and then some it will be provisional right up to the day based on last-minute sales. If you get a licence for 60k crowds and you've only sold 50k tickets, you don't put on camping for 60K people!

Probably the biggest risk at the moment is booking the Acts. Usually there is ano leaway with this at all, you need to book well in advance and it is competitive. But I think because of the circumstances I think bookings will be done much later - they probably talking and have provisional line-ups and if it looks like its going ahead Ticket Sales will be easy.

The most unknown thing of all is the regulations. They might change by the end of the summer, the question is when we will know and how long will the promoter edge their bets.

As I said before, Glastonbury will start a domino effect but those festivals that come at the end of the season the will hang for a while yet.

This man Festivals.
 

Redemption

Bastards on the Road
I was going to go to Lollapalooza Berlin last July, but it was (obviously) cancelled.

It was originally pencilled-in for this July, but with the situation in Germany I just cannot see it happening this year at all.

It's a good festival.

It's on my 'if I was a punter' list.
 

Viktor

Warp Speed Chic
Think St Vincent supported by Kendrick Lamar at Lollapalooza Berlin for a couple of years ago. These days that is masturbate worthy for me
 

Carlos

Massive Member
I was going to go to Lollapalooza Berlin last July, but it was (obviously) cancelled.

It was originally pencilled-in for this July, but with the situation in Germany I just cannot see it happening this year at all.
I can't see Oktoberfest happening in September either. Another write off for large social events I think this year. 2022 will be our year :weep:
 

Lefkasman

Steve Chettle
Might be some jazz on somewhere. There's never more than about half a dozen turn up.

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Carlos

Massive Member
Might be some jazz on somewhere. There's never more than about half a dozen turn up.

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Used to love the Jazz Sunday lunches at the Lion in Basford. It was like god's waiting room in there but everyone was chatting and buying each other beer. I went one Sunday morning and didn't pay for a single pint. Doris kept giving me the eye though so I left after the sixth.
 

Lefkasman

Steve Chettle
Used to love the Jazz Sunday lunches at the Lion in Basford. It was like god's waiting room in there but everyone was chatting and buying each other beer. I went one Sunday morning and didn't pay for a single pint. Doris kept giving me the eye though so I left after the sixth.
I used to go in the Lion . My mate used to play there, think he did a bit of cleaning to for a few extra quid. Good selection of beers and like you say a decent crowd.

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Carlos

Massive Member
I used to go in the Lion . My mate used to play there, think he did a bit of cleaning to for a few extra quid. Good selection of beers and like you say a decent crowd.

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We used to go Relegiously every Thursday for the open mic night. I'd be hard pressed to find another pub in Nottingham that has a better garden to sit in in summer.
 

Strummer

Orel Mangala Fan Club
I can't see Oktoberfest happening in September either. Another write off for large social events I think this year. 2022 will be our year :weep:

The Frühlingsfest, usually on the Cannstatter Wasen in Stuttgart in April is 99% not going to happen, and there are doubts about the Volksfest in September also, for the second year in a row.
 

forestzoe

Jack Burkitt
Country 2 Country has just been cancelled for the 2nd year running, which wasn't a huge surprise as its early March, but at least they gave more than 24hrs notice this time.

Have my fingers crossed for Long Road in Lutterworth in September as I think that's the only one I attend thats in with a chance

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Fitzcarraldo

Ian Storey-Moore
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Redemption

Bastards on the Road
Country 2 Country has just been cancelled for the 2nd year running, which wasn't a huge surprise as its early March, but at least they gave more than 24hrs notice this time.

Have my fingers crossed for Long Road in Lutterworth in September as I think that's the only one I attend thats in with a chance

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It's the smaller festivals like these I feel sorry for. They're not my cup of tea at all, in the main, and I've never worked on a small event but I know the economics for them are so much tighter.

The big branded festival will survive. The small festivals is a different matter trying to keep everything alive maintain the link with their audience. I hope they can come back better, to use the lazy cliche of the day.

There is a small hope that boutique events will be preferred over mass events as older festival punters might be more cautious about a big crowds.
 

congo_red

Ale ape.
Remember, if you'd like to celebrate Glastonbury at home - start over watering your lawn now, remmeber to stomp all over it in your heaviest boots every day. It should be muddy enugh for you to struggle to put a tent up on the day of the event.
Then all you need to do is set up your stereo and play some awful Indie bands loud enough to annoy your neighbours.

You're welcome.
 

forestzoe

Jack Burkitt
It's the smaller festivals like these I feel sorry for. They're not my cup of tea at all, in the main, and I've never worked on a small event but I know the economics for them are so much tighter.

The big branded festival will survive. The small festivals is a different matter trying to keep everything alive maintain the link with their audience. I hope they can come back better, to use the lazy cliche of the day.

There is a small hope that boutique events will be preferred over mass events as older festival punters might be more cautious about a big crowds.
C2C is big, held at the O2, with ticket prices to match! and brings the US artists over for a big weekend party. Over 1 weekend they rotate between London, Glasgow and Dublin with smaller events in Amsterdam and Germany the week before.

Long Road is a far smaller event, I think 10k total attended over the weekend in 2019 which was probably the same 5k each day with a few just 1 dayers. It is much more of a family feel about it across the event and the campsite. It only started in 2018 so may struggle to survive.

Tennessee Fields festival (renamed from Dixie Fields) also looks like its gone again this year and thats another small one, maybe smaller than LR.

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Tiff

Matchday Squad
Remember, if you'd like to celebrate Glastonbury at home - start over watering your lawn now, remmeber to stomp all over it in your heaviest boots every day. It should be muddy enugh for you to struggle to put a tent up on the day of the event.
Then all you need to do is set up your stereo and play some awful Indie bands loud enough to annoy your neighbours.

You're welcome.

You forgot to say put your telly at the far end of the garden and put small flags on coat hangers to spoil the view


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