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Ian Bowyer
The daft thing is even his mediocre club managerial career was better than Southgate’s. It’s unfathomable how he even got the u21 job let alone the full England job
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Red Echo
First Team Squad
What about Rob Edwards? I can't say I know much about his tactical preferences though. He's done a decent job at Luton but they were just scrapping last season.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
This is why I get annoyed when people say "Why sack Southgate there are no viable alternatives?!?" Well if Southgate was deemed good enough in the first place that litterally gives us a massive amount of managers to pick from.
eyupmeduck
Grenville Morris
I think time will remember Southgate more fondly than at present.
Italia 90 and Euro 96 are given good old hazy days of performance and the like where we essentially went out gallantly in the semis having a very similar line of progress before getting there. Thats as good as it got for like 40 years or so.
Spanish managers finished in the top 2 in the EPL, a Spanish team won the Champions league, the under 21s were finalists in their euros last year, the womens team won the World Cup last year as well so success is ingrained into the national set up, up until Southgate we had not attained anything comparable.
Every national team in the Euros who were in the bookies favourite list failed to deliver really except Spain. Pragmatism and caution got England to the final, adventurousness and freedom got other teams knocked out - apart from Spain.
Genuinely my opinion is that England don't have the quality of defenders to play open, front foot football that could be due to selection issues as well but there wasnt a world class left back available for example that didnt get picked.
I felt like too many players didn't show up, Bellingham was subdued, Foden didn't play well, Rice couldn't pass, Saka tried too hard, Kane was clearly injured and Walker was poor throughout the tournament as well and its those players that should be driving a team forwards.
Spain had Rodri and Fabian who were excellent, Olmo came in for an injured player and was great, Lamal was simply excellent, Williams also superb and whilst others did well too, those 5 stepped up and drove the team forwards.
I don't know if Southgate should continue but it obviously depends on the replacement. I think the FA have Potter, Howe and maybe Mourinho as targets, none of whom really inspire any element of progress or dynamism.
In virtually every football manager career i have played, either Dyche or Thomas Frank get the job so maybe in 2026 if a change is made England will win the world cup playing 4 4 f***in 2.
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Italia 90 and Euro 96 are given good old hazy days of performance and the like where we essentially went out gallantly in the semis having a very similar line of progress before getting there. Thats as good as it got for like 40 years or so.
Spanish managers finished in the top 2 in the EPL, a Spanish team won the Champions league, the under 21s were finalists in their euros last year, the womens team won the World Cup last year as well so success is ingrained into the national set up, up until Southgate we had not attained anything comparable.
Every national team in the Euros who were in the bookies favourite list failed to deliver really except Spain. Pragmatism and caution got England to the final, adventurousness and freedom got other teams knocked out - apart from Spain.
Genuinely my opinion is that England don't have the quality of defenders to play open, front foot football that could be due to selection issues as well but there wasnt a world class left back available for example that didnt get picked.
I felt like too many players didn't show up, Bellingham was subdued, Foden didn't play well, Rice couldn't pass, Saka tried too hard, Kane was clearly injured and Walker was poor throughout the tournament as well and its those players that should be driving a team forwards.
Spain had Rodri and Fabian who were excellent, Olmo came in for an injured player and was great, Lamal was simply excellent, Williams also superb and whilst others did well too, those 5 stepped up and drove the team forwards.
I don't know if Southgate should continue but it obviously depends on the replacement. I think the FA have Potter, Howe and maybe Mourinho as targets, none of whom really inspire any element of progress or dynamism.
In virtually every football manager career i have played, either Dyche or Thomas Frank get the job so maybe in 2026 if a change is made England will win the world cup playing 4 4 f***in 2.
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It certainly won’t be Mourinho, as „The Special One“ has just recently signed on at Fenerbahce!
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
I couldnt disagree more with that sentiment. If you look at every attacking stat from this tournament than we are abysmal. Its not we were stodgy like France. France has much more shots than us and a much higher xG. There is nothing redeeming about this campaign. I would also argue that yes you are right to point out Spains prowess and losing isnt the problem. Its the way we lost thats the real problem. If you point to Spains acument I may add have you seen Englands in the last 10 years? Our youth level is very very good and we win trophies now. This isnt the same English beast as the past 58 years. Credit to the FA on this as St Goerges park and a clear identity and stratagy is starting to bear fruit. The major problem I see is Southgate.
One more thing I would say as well is England need to work on making better midfielders. Ones that recieve the ball in pressure and turn out of it. Once we have one of them wed be a better side.
Raymondo Ponte'
It's all about 17th...
Get any fukka in but Saarfgate (not McClown tho).
Alan Akbah
Failed to take the Popside in half a minute
People say Southgate should go but who wants the job these days?
Time was that managing your country was the peak of any managerial career. However the rewards and glory are more abundant and frequent in club football now. I'd be surprised if anyone in the top tier seriously wants it.
Maybe Southgate is as good as it gets.
Time was that managing your country was the peak of any managerial career. However the rewards and glory are more abundant and frequent in club football now. I'd be surprised if anyone in the top tier seriously wants it.
Maybe Southgate is as good as it gets.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
No chance is Southgate as good as it gets. Plus if you feel like you dont have a chance you may as well change it up. To be honest I'd rather Lee Carsely than Southgate. At least hes won something and has a track record of winning. Hed deffo take it as well.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
People need to read this, we have 5 major trophies in the past 6 years. We are a country that is now starting to actually be in the peer group of France, Germany, Spain, Argentina and Brazil. There is no reason we should be settling for Southgate. We arent plucky underdogs overachieving. We are a well oiled system that is underachieving and by underachieving I mean how we play. We shouldnt be struggling against Switzerland or Holland now and be seen as outsiders against the big boys. We should be winning the Holland and Swiss games with a little more style and have a fighting chnace against the big boys. We are not there so Southgate has to go. We cant waste this great foundation the FA have laid. The FA have 90% of it right and deserve credit they just need to take the final step.
Rubics
Bin VAR!
And klopp - I’m supporting Scotland if that prick is anywhere near the England team. 200k in Wembley, half on fake tickets, booing the national anthem and singing lizzy in a box, no thanks!
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
You're right it must be quite hard finding attractive candidates given the England players are rubbish and the pay is only a few million every year.
Alan Akbah
Failed to take the Popside in half a minute
It's all relative. League One players are on good money these days.
Manchester City would beat England
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Stuart Pearce
Pochettino would be my choice
Alf-engelos Mindminackers
The Artiste formally known as "Wanksy"
5m a year as manager? Puts the job in the top 15 paid football managerial jobs in the world, and most of the others require the manager to work with their squads far more regularly on a weekly basis too, the England job is halfway to being part-time.
I'd say it's one of the most attractive job offers out there.
EmmersonForest4
Steve Chettle
If you are Klopp who wants a break and likes living in England than its a very very nice job, just saying
redforest
Geoff Thomas
Hoof it to the big number 9?
Alan Akbah
Failed to take the Popside in half a minute
Yes. But does it beat the sheer elation of winning 1 - 0 away on a wet Tuesday night in February in Stoke?
There's still more money, more glory, and less abuse, managing in the Premier League
jdthebrit
Geoff Thomas
Klopp is a man's man but there's no way on God's earth he would manage England.
He is German and they will take him soon enough.
Barney Ronay of the Guardian writing fantasy novels as per.
This is no time for f***ing fairy tales. Get the other bearded wonder in and let's get down to it.
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He is German and they will take him soon enough.
Barney Ronay of the Guardian writing fantasy novels as per.
This is no time for f***ing fairy tales. Get the other bearded wonder in and let's get down to it.
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BryanRoy22
Bob McKinlay
For those saying they don't want a foreign coach, Eriksson was probably one of the most likeable England managers post-millennium.
Sarina Wiegman was the first manager to get England's women's football team over the line to win an international tournament. She was also the first manager to get the Netherlands women's football team over the line. So there's a proven winner there.
Lee Carsley has won an international tournament with England U21's. That was England U21's first major international tournament. You want people like this who are able to 'break the curse'. Also, it's interesting to note that Carsley played Gibbs-White a lot in those Euros last year.......
Sarina Wiegman was the first manager to get England's women's football team over the line to win an international tournament. She was also the first manager to get the Netherlands women's football team over the line. So there's a proven winner there.
Lee Carsley has won an international tournament with England U21's. That was England U21's first major international tournament. You want people like this who are able to 'break the curse'. Also, it's interesting to note that Carsley played Gibbs-White a lot in those Euros last year.......
Bryn Gunn
Cash is King!
There’s this guy in the Middle East that would take the job and it would be entertaining…
Klopp?
Get f**ked.
Get completely f**ked.
And then get f**ked some more.
Get f**ked.
Get completely f**ked.
And then get f**ked some more.
im inclined to let Lee Carsley take over, I do think his more attacking, fluid formation and tactics would be good. the whole spain set up with fuente moving up with the players from U13 does seem very logical, the team will know the player very well once they get to senior level.
I'd be inclined to say the FA needs to formulate a style a play and then appoint a head coach that works with players from youth to senior level. It about time the FA formed a coherent strategy rather then knee perking from one manager to the next.
I'd be inclined to say the FA needs to formulate a style a play and then appoint a head coach that works with players from youth to senior level. It about time the FA formed a coherent strategy rather then knee perking from one manager to the next.
Red Ray's Redlist
Viv Anderson
Why hasn't he resigned yet?
He kept saying he knew what he was going to do.
My guess is he hasn't even had a Championship club contact him about taking on a job so is now working out how to explain why he's staying on with England that doesn't involve £5m pa.
He kept saying he knew what he was going to do.
My guess is he hasn't even had a Championship club contact him about taking on a job so is now working out how to explain why he's staying on with England that doesn't involve £5m pa.