Dr. Evangelos Marinakis and Pie Cannons (sponsored by Carlos)

[Notcher]

I bet you tried your luck there Notch

I would've loved a crack at her but she's a good few years older than me and she wasn't there long.

 

[Apollo11]

Ask and you shall receive!

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He looks like he could have been an extra in Hot Shots (for anyone old enough to remember the films)

A Carlton lad I believe

I always thought he was from Chilwell but just seen he lived and went school there but was actually from Carlton like you said.

Edit: On the topic of the Beckinsales his wife Judy passed away last week after illness.

 

[Osiris]

I'm not sure that T-shirt really works.

I'll delete it then

 

[Notcher]

He looks like he could have been an extra in Hot Shots (for anyone old enough to remember the films)



I always thought he was from Chilwell but just seen he lived and went school there but was actually from Carlton like you said.

Edit: On the topic of the Beckinsales his wife Judy passed away last week after illness.

He also lived in Brinsley for a while.

His other daughter Sam (I believe she was in London's burning) also went to a local comprehensive around there

 

[Carlos]

I'll delete it then

This tension makes me moist in the loins

 

[Notcher]

Word on the grapevine is the Marinakis is jumping into bed with Textor to buy Botafogo out of Eagle Football Holdings.

It's quite complex but there's significant amounts of money owed by EFH to Botafogo and even more hugely significant amounts owed by Lyon through EFH to Botafogo. Some of it has been ordered by the courts to be repaid.

It looks like between Marinakis and Textor they are removing the most financially viable club of EFH to run separately. Textor brings the viable asset and Marinakis brings the successful experience and proper group structure.

We all knew there was some other arrangement going on behind the business with them both. This could be the one that really benefits Forest as Marinakis will push hard for them to become the desirable club to go to in Brazil and we'll get the stars from that.

 

[YellowBelly Red]

Word on the grapevine is the Marinakis is jumping into bed with Textor to buy Botafogo out of Eagle Football Holdings.

It's quite complex but there's significant amounts of money owed by EFH to Botafogo and even more hugely significant amounts owed by Lyon through EFH to Botafogo. Some of it has been ordered by the courts to be repaid.

It looks like between Marinakis and Textor they are removing the most financially viable club of EFH to run separately. Textor brings the viable asset and Marinakis brings the successful experience and proper group structure.

We all knew there was some other arrangement going on behind the business with them both. This could be the one that really benefits Forest as Marinakis will push hard for them to become the desirable club to go to in Brazil and we'll get the stars from that.

Palace fans will be all over this, should they get to hear about it. The conspiracy theories will be off the chart!

 

[Strummer]

A Carlton lad I believe

He was indeed.

 

[Scott Gemmill's Hair]

Word on the grapevine is the Marinakis is jumping into bed with Textor to buy Botafogo out of Eagle Football Holdings.

It's quite complex but there's significant amounts of money owed by EFH to Botafogo and even more hugely significant amounts owed by Lyon through EFH to Botafogo. Some of it has been ordered by the courts to be repaid.

It looks like between Marinakis and Textor they are removing the most financially viable club of EFH to run separately. Textor brings the viable asset and Marinakis brings the successful experience and proper group structure.

We all knew there was some other arrangement going on behind the business with them both. This could be the one that really benefits Forest as Marinakis will push hard for them to become the desirable club to go to in Brazil and we'll get the stars from that.

Also rumours that RWDM Brussels also involved in an enlarged MCO with Textor as minority shareholder, and EM giving Textor €100m / investing €100m.

 

[Rzar]

Can we just acknowledge how funny it would be if EM ends up in the same MCO as Lyon, because it would happen after the deadline there would be no MCO issue from UEFA

 

[Rzar]

Word on the grapevine is the Marinakis is jumping into bed with Textor to buy Botafogo out of Eagle Football Holdings.

It's quite complex but there's significant amounts of money owed by EFH to Botafogo and even more hugely significant amounts owed by Lyon through EFH to Botafogo. Some of it has been ordered by the courts to be repaid.

It looks like between Marinakis and Textor they are removing the most financially viable club of EFH to run separately. Textor brings the viable asset and Marinakis brings the successful experience and proper group structure.

We all knew there was some other arrangement going on behind the business with them both. This could be the one that really benefits Forest as Marinakis will push hard for them to become the desirable club to go to in Brazil and we'll get the stars from that.

In seriousness it doesn’t sound believable to me. EM might be buying Botafogo separately but there is no way he is jumping into an MCO with Textor.

He is his own man with enough money & contacts to do it by himself, he won’t tolerate a clown like Textor running around with a big gob wasting his money. We are also not a typical MCO, yes we are owned by the same guy but they are completely different entities unlike almost all other MCOs who remain under the same holding company. His clubs run pretty independently which is probably why it’s the only MCO in the world where one of the clubs doesn’t feel short changed.

I think someone is just trying to put 2 & 2 together.

 

[Rubics]

Agree with Rzar, he doesn’t need and won’t want a partner. It’s him and then junior. One way or another Textor’s cash flow issues will cost him big time with EM.

 

[Notcher]

In seriousness it doesn’t sound believable to me. EM might be buying Botafogo separately but there is no way he is jumping into an MCO with Textor.

He is his own man with enough money & contacts to do it by himself, he won’t tolerate a clown like Textor running around with a big gob wasting his money. We are also not a typical MCO, yes we are owned by the same guy but they are completely different entities unlike almost all other MCOs who remain under the same holding company. His clubs run pretty independently which is probably why it’s the only MCO in the world where one of the clubs doesn’t feel short changed.

I think someone is just trying to put 2 & 2 together.

I agree but we know what Marinakis is like. It wouldn't surprise me if he's using Textor to get his hands on it initially before eventually ousting him further down the line.

 

[Rzar]

I agree but we know what Marinakis is like. It wouldn't surprise me if he's using Textor to get his hands on it initially before eventually ousting him further down the line.

Sounds like more effort than it is worth to me. Textor loves the glory of football & doesn't have the money to fuel his hobby. There is no way EM is going to let him roam free with something he owns, especially with how much he has ripped him off in the past.

 

[Notcher]

Sounds like more effort than it is worth to me. Textor loves the glory of football & doesn't have the money to fuel his hobby. There is no way EM is going to let him roam free with something he owns, especially with how much he has ripped him off in the past.

I still wouldn't put it past him. Marinakis clearly knows how to play Textor and use his naivety and ego against him.

 

[GregorRobertson]

In seriousness it doesn’t sound believable to me. EM might be buying Botafogo separately but there is no way he is jumping into an MCO with Textor.

He is his own man with enough money & contacts to do it by himself, he won’t tolerate a clown like Textor running around with a big gob wasting his money. We are also not a typical MCO, yes we are owned by the same guy but they are completely different entities unlike almost all other MCOs who remain under the same holding company. His clubs run pretty independently which is probably why it’s the only MCO in the world where one of the clubs doesn’t feel short changed.

I think someone is just trying to put 2 & 2 together.

Fake news according to Rob Dorsett on twitter.

 

[Scott Gemmill's Hair]

Fake news according to Rob Dorsett on twitter.

I wouldn't be so sure.

A). I doubt EM would want anything official until after Palace CAS appeal

B). The news in Brazil didn't say EM would buy Botofogo. So you can say that's fake news.

C). The reason for A and B, is that it sounds like the deal would be EM funding Textor to buy Botofogo from Eagle Holdings (via a new Ltd company in Cayman Islands). This helps re-capitalise Eagle Holdings (and Lyon). What EM gets from it remains to be seen (apart from Forest in EL, two cheap Botofogo players, cash for Danilo). Likely first dibs on top talent from Botofogo.

 

[Gyros Peter]

Fake news according to Rob Dorsett on twitter.

Wonder why anyone wouldnt want to have it out there with the CAS appeal upcoming...

 

[GregorRobertson]

Don't shoot the messenger!

 

[Rzar]

Fake news according to Rob Dorsett on twitter.

It was pretty obviously the case, never made any sense. There is no way EM would go into a MCO with Textor.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

We are also not a typical MCO, yes we are owned by the same guy but they are completely different entities unlike almost all other MCOs who remain under the same holding company. His clubs run pretty independently

If you overlook all the transfers between us and the fact we share scouting/data teams and that we often go to Greece pre-season to use their facilities then yes absolutely we are run independently.

 

[Gyros Peter]

If you overlook all the transfers between us and the fact we share scouting/data teams and that we often go to Greece pre-season to use their facilities then yes absolutely we are run independently.

You sound like someone else we know...

 

[Gyros Peter]

It was pretty obviously the case, never made any sense. There is no way EM would go into a MCO with Textor.

I think it's a little more nuanced than that - Textor reckons Botafogo makes plenty cash, since the financial setup over there makes it much more easy to do so. Marinakis wants a link between Brazil and his clubs, in order to snaffle the promising youth talent and provide a clear pathway.

The idea, if true, I believe is that together they buy Botafogo out of eagle holdings and use the club for mutually beneficial gains.

Obviously that sounds very naive on Textor's part, and there's apparently something owed on behalf of Botafogo who Textor claims has been propping up the rest of the eagle group.

But yes, wouldn't be surprised to see something develop there in time, or to see Textor eventually forced out of any deal.

 

[GreeksBearingGifts]

This photo made the rounds on here a good few years ago, can't remember how it was confirmed to be him but I remember it coming from a legitimate source, maybe even from EM himself.

It's a very well-known photo; it is indeed EM, with Takis Lemonis, a legendary player and later manager of ours. It's taken in the old stadium, in 1979.

 

[Rzar]

If you overlook all the transfers between us and the fact we share scouting/data teams and that we often go to Greece pre-season to use their facilities then yes absolutely we are run independently.

The clubs are completely financially independent of each other. If one goes bust it doesn't affect the other, that was my point. Hardly any other MCO's are structured like that. I am not claiming there is no links between the clubs.