Douglas Luiz Soares de Paulo

[Osiris]

From what I am reading elsewhere it was us that cancelled his contract - not Juve

Well however it came about I think it's for the best

I've no doubt if that's the case the club are planning to bring another CM in

 

[vertigored]

Think it’s one of those whereby we have to cancel rather thank juve being able to recall, if that’s the case, we should have cancelled after braga!

 

[Harry1982]

Wanted by Chelsea and Villa. Teams pushing for the top 4.

But can't get in our side.

This will probably do wonders for his neck tbf, not having to watch all those long balls punted over his head.

Tbf under ange he did have a couple of good games but was injured for most of it. Ange was suited to getting the best out of him. Waste of time sticking him in a dyche team, best outcome for us and the Luiz.

 

[Harry1982]

Lets enquire with villa and liverpool about Harvey elliott

 

[Bing Crosby's Head]

Lets enquire with villa and liverpool about Harvey elliott

We can't.

 

[JohnnyCarey]

Great idea but wrong time, wrong place, wrong shitshow. Makes sense to let him go and bring in someone more suited to our circumstances.

 

[Rzar]

The club is completely to blame for this one not working, they chased him for ages & then made no effort to make his signing actually work. We can sign who we want, if we aren't giving players the best chance they can to suceed then they are not going to. He had plenty of good games for us,

 

[EmmersonForest4]

This doesn't make sense, you are basically saying that it is EM's fault that he told Edu to buy players that everyone else wants - surely that's a good thing?

No maranakis and edu bought what I still think was a decent squad. However because Maranakis wanted Ange which I don’t believe at all to be Edus choice it’s cocked the whole thing up. Now we have a manager in situ who can’t get the best out of our squad. So if Maranakis wasn’t so fixated on a terrible manager like Ange this probably would have worked. It isn’t hindsight either everyone and their dog said Ange was shit.

 

[EmmersonForest4]

I hold Edu almost entirely accountable for this transfer though, Luiz agent and him are so closely connected and the deal simply would not have been on the table if those parties weren't besties. Bigger picture maybe its worth a conversation as to how Marinakis has given such a big role and responsibility to Edu but its unfortunately a transfer that has Joorabchian and Edus sticky little fingers all over it.

That may deffo be the case but equally if we had a decent manager who plays more to the entire squads capabilities I still think Luiz would have been a decent signing. He looked very good under Ange but it’s a shame it was Ange who totally neglects any defensive organisation so we couldn’t win any games.

 

[vertigored]

We can't.

We could, he just couldn’t play for us till next season

 

[Bing Crosby's Head]

We could, he just couldn’t play for us till next season

True. That would be the most Forest thing to do (followed by selling him next January as he couldn't get fit having not played for months)

 

[Alf-engelos Mindminackers]

If he has a chronic injury which requires significant time management as has been rumoured, then he's simply not a luxury a club like ours can afford - we need players who we can depend on.

 

[Green Jumper]

It seems the club gambled that our medical team could at least mitigate his physical issues, but were unfortunately unable to do so.

Some you win, some you lose, but it was absolutely a chance worth taking at the prices involved. I'll wish him all the best for the future.

 

[Thetrooper]

This was the signing I was most excited about in the summer. He is quality, and really thought he would compliment our midfield. A Shame it didn’t work out. We saw glimpses of his class, but never really produced it on a regular basis when given the opportunities. But we move on…

 

[Sib]

He had his chances but never looked capable of playing for 90 minutes, sadly.

The structure of the loan seems OK. Forest had plenty of time to work with the player and decide whether to sign him permanently as one of the squad's highest earners. That beats regular scouting.

 

[duncanmckenzie]

But you know that if and when he plays for Villa he'll be back to his best. It's just a Forest thing

 

[MC Plantpot]

‘What the f*** was that keeper doing?’ - surely this is going to be the first question asked when he trains with Villa for the first time!

 

[Timothy Pope]

f*** me!!
Some people just can’t resist sticking the boot into the club about anything!
He was nowhere near triggering his obligation of more than 15 Premier League games of more than one half. He missed more games than he played because of injury.
It was worth a try because when at his best, he’s top 6 quality. Unfortunately, we’ve never seen that player.

 

[Cureboy]

Not really bothered he's gone. It looked good on paper but take the Wrexham and Braga games for example, I would've expected him to run the midfield - but the reality was the complete opposite, we looked even more shite. Onwards and upwards.

 

[Berkshire Red]

Strange how other clubs are after him if he really has this chronic injury.

 

[Notcher]

But you know that if and when he plays for Villa he'll be back to his best. It's just a Forest thing

And therein lies the benefit of Villa taking him with an option to buy rather than an obligation. They've got the opportunity to play him into fitness rather than looking over their shoulders as to whether they trigger a purchase.

We could never do that because of the uncertainty over his injury and not wanting to trigger the clause. A deal structured in such a way and knowing the circumstances which was just ridiculous and benefitted absolutely nobody.

As I said before, I hope we have learned from it.

 

[mysteryduck]

I'm not sure he'll do anything significant for Villa. Might prove me wrong but I'm happy if we can replace him with someone who can at least run about a bit.

 

[Berkshire Red]

And therein lies the benefit of Villa taking him with an option to buy rather than an obligation. They've got the opportunity to play him into fitness rather than looking over their shoulders as to whether they trigger a purchase.

We could never do that because of the uncertainty over his injury and not wanting to trigger the clause. A deal structured in such a way and knowing the circumstances which was just ridiculous and benefitted absolutely nobody.

As I said before, I hope we have learned from it.

Were we ever likely to get close? 15 45+ minute appearances? How many times did he manage it?

Shame, cos there's a player there, big time. And now Yates and Sangaré are back you could have managed his game time. Perhaps Luiz himself no longer wanted to be here?

 

[Worsley Red]

Were we ever likely to get close? 15 45+ minute appearances? How many times did he manage it?

Shame, cos there's a player there, big time. And now Yates and Sangaré are back you could have managed his game time. Perhaps Luiz himself no longer wanted to be here?

I believe he did 11 or 12. No doubt he could had had a couple more, had we chosen to sail closer to the wind with that purchase obligation clause. Anyway….here endeth a rather disappointing chapter.

 

[Listen 'ere young man]

We could come up with quite a decent XI of washed up big names who've played for us over the years.

Ian Wright
Andy Cole
Lord Bendtner
Linguard
Origi
Douglas Luiz (OK maybe not over the hill yet but very disappointing)

And some famous nameskes
Pele
Cafu