Does anyone remember sheep shagging Derby County? (STILL the worst team in history!)

Redemption

Redemption

One less gobshite...
Rzarecteh said:
The administrators have pulled up GDPR & still aren't telling the EFL anything :ROFLMAO:

The EFL don't even know who the bidders are!

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There's a deadline.

Not explicit, bit nevertheless a deadline

Derby can't start the season unless there is a clear business plan to a) exit administration by March 23 and be able to complete the season.

Because the sale can't be guaranteed while it's under negotiation, a sale must be complete by the season's start. That's the only way a sale can take place. The alternative would be to put funding in place for the whole season that would see them come out of Admin. The latter is pretty much impossible.

So a sale in the next 5 weeks or it Cheerio.
 
Any Time Now

Any Time Now

Jack Armstrong
Redemption said:
There's a deadline.

Not explicit, bit nevertheless a deadline

Derby can't start the season unless there is a clear business plan to a) exit administration by March 23 and be able to complete the season.

Because the sale can't be guaranteed while it's under negotiation, a sale must be complete by the season's start. That's the only way a sale can take place. The alternative would be to put funding in place for the whole season that would see them come out of Admin. The latter is pretty much impossible.

So a sale in the next 5 weeks or it Cheerio.
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THEY AREN'T DEADLINES
 
RedRobbo

RedRobbo

Grenville Morris
Barry said:
What's do the dicks at NFFC Supporters trust think they are doing commenting on this subject?

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I’m desperately trying to understand what role the Trust deliver, what mandate they have & who the hell thay think they are! Seems to me they select the most obscure of issues on which to comment / campaign yet totally ignore the ones that really matter to the fan base. Who gave them the authority to represent us? Forza Garibaldi - although they don’t aspire to such a position - are so much more qualified to do so.
 
Blinkin

Blinkin

Pretend Comedian
Does the water in Derby make them act the way they do or is it genetic?
 
Redemption

Redemption

One less gobshite...
RedRobbo said:
I’m desperately trying to understand what role the Trust deliver, what mandate they have & who the hell thay think they are! Seems to me they select the most obscure of issues on which to comment / campaign yet totally ignore the ones that really matter to the fan base. Who gave them the authority to represent us? Forza Garibaldi - although they don’t aspire to such a position - are so much more qualified to do so.
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They don't claim to speak on behalf of Forest fans as a whole afaik, just on behalf of their members.

The Trust is an independent body set-up to "help fans to join together and strengthen their collective influence over the way the club is run, and to improve the links between their club and the community it serves."

Think of it like a trade union for fans. Or a consumer's association.

They represent a type of fan. That's not a bad thing.

I'm not a member.
 
eyupmeduck

eyupmeduck

Geoff Thomas
Rzarecteh said:
It's all kicking off in Mordor!
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They seem to be torn between realising the administrators aren't doing a great job and still somehow blaming the EFL for answering questions they were asked.

The EFL must have spent so long on this and even in the off season and at the weekend Trevor Birch is replying to them. The amount time spent on Derby versus the 71 other members is staggering, no wonder the other members (And possibly the EFL) are keen for a conclusion even if that means no Derby County.



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Agent Penguin

Agent Penguin

Geoff Thomas
Every time the supporters group write to Quantuma, it’s chargeable time for them.

It’s not as if they will get given explicit answers as there are none.
 
Trents

Trents

John Robertson
We know the rules are that you can only stay in admin for 18 months max but have any sides actually started a new season in admin after finishing the last also in admin?

Seems a bit of a contradiction to have that situation whilst also satisfying The EFL's requirements for proof of season long funding.
 
HBB

HBB

Jack Burkitt
I feel for Alram, I really do, if it were possible to "cross the floor" like in Parliament and come toa decent club like us or even just go to another forum I'm sure he would. He's just surrounded now by EFL deniers whose narrative is that the EFL is actively against them and is the architect of their current position. Alram's position in support of Birch that the EFL's request to see details of the bids to get ahead of the curve and help shorten/speed-up the process is untenable to the deniers such is their fundamental opposition to the EFL. They're toxic and they deserve their ignominious end.
 
Rockabilly

Rockabilly

GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
HBB said:
I feel for Alram, I really do, if it were possible to "cross the floor" like in Parliament and come toa decent club like us or even just go to another forum I'm sure he would. He's just surrounded now by EFL deniers whose narrative is that the EFL is actively against them and is the architect of their current position. Alram's position in support of Birch that the EFL's request to see details of the bids to get ahead of the curve and help shorten/speed-up the process is untenable to the deniers such is their fundamental opposition to the EFL. They're toxic and they deserve their ignominious end.
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Agreed.
 
L

Louth Red

First Team Squad
Redemption said:
They don't claim to speak on behalf of Forest fans as a whole afaik, just on behalf of their members.

The Trust is an independent body set-up to "help fans to join together and strengthen their collective influence over the way the club is run, and to improve the links between their club and the community it serves."

Think of it like a trade union for fans. Or a consumer's association.

They represent a type of fan. That's not a bad thing.

I'm not a member.
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I am a member and these are my personal thoughts In response to Red Robbo‘s harsh comments. It’s an organisation with a proper Constitution, good governance, open membership and an elected voluntary Board. It was established six years ago in response to the FAWAZ situation. Members have good opportunities to raise issues of concern for discussion with the Club at very senior level. The Trust has the respect of the Club like the Supporters Club, Forza and Punjabi Reds - they are all different but ensure that the Club receive a wide range of supporter views.

In the past year the Trust has -
* profiled the diversity of support through its My City My Shirt initiative (highly praised by the Club & FSA).
* delivered the Tricky to Talk mental health initiative (winning the FSA national award).
* met with the Spirit of Shankly Trust ahead of the FA Cup game to offer support to fans of both clubs especially those suffering from ongoing mental health issues dating back to 1989.
* brought the Womens Team into the constitution and Memorandum of Understanding with the Club (only the second club to do so) and continued player sponsorship and other support.
* held food collections for the needy.
* supported the Samantha Birtles fundraising event.
* helped to create the new Disabled Supporters Association.
* participated actively within the Football Supporters Association on a range of issues including the Fan Led Review of Football, Fixture Scheduling.
* reviewed the annual accounts of all Championship Clubs and posted the analysis on its website.
* produced an ‘easy to read‘ analysis of the Fan Led Review for the website.

My view is that the above list do not reflect ‘the most obscure of issues’ - I believe they demonstrate support for disadvantaged supporters, good information for supporters who wish to better understand football finance and governance, and an understanding of the proposed changes to football governance in the future. All of this in addition to the opportunity to raise issues of concern to Trust members for discussion with senior personnel at the Club.

It is disappointing that some supporters do not recognise or value these actions and initiatives which only happen because real supporters give freely of their time at their own expense.

The Fan Led Review will require supporter groups to come closer together. The Club and players have consistently commented on the way all aspects of our club have pulled together this season to create a dynamic force leading to our promotion.

Every supporter group adds it’s own value in differing ways, for example, Forza is a considerable force in fan engagement and atmosphere at games; the Supporters Club has a long history of fan engagement including coaches to home and away matches from many branches. The Trust has community engagement responsibilities in addition to representing members views.

Everyone is entitled to their views on each supporter group but they all play an important role. I respect each of the organisations and regularly check their information channels for their activities. I encourage others to do the same before jumping to conclusions.

RedRobbo said:
I’m desperately trying to understand what role the Trust deliver, what mandate they have & who the hell thay think they are! Seems to me they select the most obscure of issues on which to comment / campaign yet totally ignore the ones that really matter to the fan base. Who gave them the authority to represent us? Forza Garibaldi - although they don’t aspire to such a position - are so much more qualified to do so.
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eezzeetiger

Geoff Thomas
jamferg said:
The only way they would pack the ground is with £10 tickets and mobile phone freebies which doesn't add to their income. The 'great footballing town' is a myth. They lost 10k on the crowds the moment they were doomed to relegation. Woonies salary alone would boost their wage bill beyond manageable levels.
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To be fair to Derby, their attendances got better and better as the season went on, and ticketing problems were to blame at the start. But i agree they are f*(&ed
 
Flaggers

Flaggers

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Rockabilly

Rockabilly

GAFF LAD. "Open your knees and feel the breeze"
Geordie is taking me to Gt Yarmouth on Wednesday for a few days. What's the betting they go pop whilst I'm away and I miss all the fun on here, and the MEGA meltdown next door.
 
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