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Geoff Thomas
Yeah, he was absolutely fathoms above the level when he played for us in the Championship. I always felt he could pretty much do what he wanted when he wanted. Would have loved to have kept him.
Diop Tehuti Djed-Hotep Spence
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YellowBelly Red
Jack Armstrong
I never knew that Djed was a muslim. Hoping to be England's first muslim player.
Came as a surprise, According to Middlesborough fans, he was never out of the pubs and clubs up there.
Came as a surprise, According to Middlesborough fans, he was never out of the pubs and clubs up there.
You can be a Muslim without being totally onboard with all of the beliefs (such as attending the mosque multiple times et al).
A Muslim colleague of mine described it as a bit like being a lapsed catholic.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
I'm more surprised that Djed is England's first Muslim player than the fact that Djed is a Muslim.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
He is but I think they're talking about the full side. There was a rumour a while back that Luke Shaw is actually a Muslim, but that sounds like it might not be true
Masuka
Jack Burkitt
No chance he’d be able to fast for a month
Totally respect him choosing who he wants to be.
Nevertheless brave to make the statement.
He'll draw attention from the islamophobic minority element in the England fanbase while I wonder how the more fundamental section of the Muslim community will view Djed as a representative. (Not that he is casting himself in that role)
That said , great that he challenges stereotypes and prejudices.
Nevertheless brave to make the statement.
He'll draw attention from the islamophobic minority element in the England fanbase while I wonder how the more fundamental section of the Muslim community will view Djed as a representative. (Not that he is casting himself in that role)
That said , great that he challenges stereotypes and prejudices.
Statto
Free Kick Specialist
They only fast during daylight hours, which is much easier when Ramadan is where it was this year compared to when it's in June (e.g. the year the Grenfell fire was).
Can't disagree with that point though.
Joking aside, I don't know how professional athletes manage it. There are exceptions if you are ill but not for working, which presumably affects all sorts of people (and must be hella shitty for the Muslims working in food establishments preparing food all day for customers when fasting). We have/had a fair amount since promotion, Kouyate and Niakhate were, Sangare is, think Boly might be as well. The two French lads are of Congolese descent and might be, ditto Ndoye who is of Senegalese origin. Sometimes when football's going on during Ramadan they allow a break when it gets dark so the players can at least have a drink, which they aren't allowed to do of course in the daylight.
Shearstone
Derby delenda est
They're allowed to break their fast in the day as long as they pay a penance later, usually by donating to a charity. I'm actually surprised Spence is a Muslim and think he's either newly religious or one of those American nation of Islam people. His most famous photo for us was him smoking on a cigar after all which is haram.
JonnoSnr
Jack Armstrong
Was he a Muslim when he was on the cigars after the play off final?
Although to be fair it wasnt lit as is weirdly often the case at these sorts of things.
Although to be fair it wasnt lit as is weirdly often the case at these sorts of things.
MaxiRobriguez
Bob McKinlay
That 'photo' doesn't exist.
Templeton
Viv Anderson
Yes this has become a regular thing now, was introduced a few years back and the ref will know what time the player can eat so as soon as the ball goes out of play after that time they will stop the game so the player can have some of those gel type energy foods.
Indored
Viv Anderson
During fasting time not all people have to conform. Some jobs are ok to eat and drink, for example on a building site in 30 degrees of blazing sunshine.
Many stores actually put up a screen on the restaurant window so people eating inside don’t annoy those fasting outside.
They also have to get up really early to beat the morning deadline so after a month they are knackered.
Many stores actually put up a screen on the restaurant window so people eating inside don’t annoy those fasting outside.
They also have to get up really early to beat the morning deadline so after a month they are knackered.
sammy the snake
John Robertson
See. This is what gets me. Media make a point of him being a Muslim, I totally understand the context of being the first Muslim to play for England, potentially.
But why oh why can we just not stick to the game, it’s never even been mentioned previously and I think he’s one of those players that lets his feet do the talking.
Our Viv made history based on skin colour at a time in the nation’s history where it really did matter to make a very big thing about it.
mister
First Team Squad
Don't see the problem, tbh.
www.bbc.co.uk
Djed Spence hopes becoming first Muslim England player will inspire others
Djed Spence hopes to inspire a new generation if he becomes the first Muslim player to represent the England men's team.
www.bbc.co.uk
andover red
Grenville Morris
Full England international now. Really pleased for him.
Hilarious to think back to when Boro fans were happy to see him shipped out, because he had a bad attitude and Isaiah Jones was a better player. Jones is now hacking round league one for Luton.
Hilarious to think back to when Boro fans were happy to see him shipped out, because he had a bad attitude and Isaiah Jones was a better player. Jones is now hacking round league one for Luton.
isaacs
Jack Burkitt
That just made me laugh, i had completely forgotten about those twats chiming in throughout that promotion season talking about how much money we were making for them, with the worst player of the two.
Some absolute mental clubs and fanbases around, which i guess is part of the fun.
floridatricky
First Team Squad
Really pleased for Djed, It was obvious he was good enough for the Premier League in our amazing promotions season. Now a fully fledged international. Wished he'd stayed with us.
Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD.
Fulchester United
Well pleased for him, the young man deserves it.
adamthered
Geoff Thomas
The last picture is a classic
Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD.
Fulchester United
Indeed, that was my main reason for posting it.
TrickiestTree
World's only Lars Veldwijk replica shirt owner
He reposted it on his story with a 'questionable' caption too
Ah. A GTA cross over.
That is frankly, brilliant.