Club World Cup

Statto

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valspoodle

Ian Bowyer
Just seen an interview with that Kharvi bloke on SSN where he's trying to defend this charade of a tournament after Jurgen Klopp gave it a slagging

Sky really are up the arse of the bent money men

Sky & FIFA, please just f*** off
I watched that too. And formed the same opinion, he claimed he was playing 'devil's advocate', but not yet heard him playing devil's advocate by countering the claims of Infantino that it's a great success perfectly organised!
 

Canadian_red

Jack Burkitt
I found out hilarious that the quarter final of this "amazing" tournament, that shows the best football has to offer and featured a squad worth 1B pounds, had about 30 people watching live.

I know the game was delayed late on (for two f***ing hours) but christ, maybe you should have thought of that, Infantino, you massive bellend with your shit shoes.
 

Berkshire Red

Jack Burkitt
The World Cup will be a farce next summer if they stop the game for 2 hours due to heat. The game would be ruined.

Can you imagine the reaction in homes and bars across the world when they walk off after 60 minutes of Germany v Brazil or England v Argentina?
 

PynchonForest

Stuart Pearce
The World Cup will be a farce next summer if they stop the game for 2 hours due to heat. The game would be ruined.

Can you imagine the reaction in homes and bars across the world when they walk off after 60 minutes of Germany v Brazil or England v Argentina?
It is not due to the heat. The issue is lightning from storms.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
The World Cup will be a farce next summer if they stop the game for 2 hours due to heat. The game would be ruined.

Can you imagine the reaction in homes and bars across the world when they walk off after 60 minutes of Germany v Brazil or England v Argentina?
Tbf it's not unheard of in other sports, I think the Aus Open tennis has an extreme heat policy, though I don't think that stretches to abandoning a match - I think it might mean they can go off more or have longer at changeovers or between sets though.

It's the first day of Wimbledon tomorrow, and normal temps are going to be in the 30s for most of the country - on court it's usually about 10 degrees more plus they're running around chasing balls being hit at 140mph+ for hours. Worth remembering whilst most of us are sitting around (largely speaking) working or surfing the web etc etc and still wondering how we'll cope.

The conditions are admittedly the same for both teams (both individuals in tennis) but that doesn't make it any more bearable, or that people aren't going to be susceptible to things like heatstroke or dehydration .

Honestly I can see the logic of protecting the players, even if it means they get more chance to go off the pitch to get somewhere cool for a few minutes and take on some fluids or get some physio.
 

Berkshire Red

Jack Burkitt
It is not due to the heat. The issue is lightning from storms.
Ah. Wasn't paying full attention.

I've experienced that too, was in Nashville watching the Vanderbilt Commodores v South Carolina Gamecocks (I kid you not!!) College football. Fortunately it wasn't until 10 minutes before the end that the storm got close enough, and the visitors were 25 points ahead. I didn't bother hanging around for the restart.

Either way, the sentiment remains. It'll be utter shit if it happens in next year's World Cup.
 
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PynchonForest

Stuart Pearce
That's missing the point.
No it isn't. The point is the game is stopped due to lightning safety issues. Not heat. Now, whether that will destroy the WC next summer remains to be seen. But it is standard fare here in North America, particularly in the central regions of North America, where lightning/thunder storms are commonplace and can get apocalyptic within minutes. The storms I see here in Alberta are end of the world events.
 

Berkshire Red

Jack Burkitt
Tbf it's not unheard of in other sports, I think the Aus Open tennis has an extreme heat policy, though I don't think that stretches to abandoning a match - I think it might mean they can go off more or have longer at changeovers or between sets though.

It's the first day of Wimbledon tomorrow, and normal temps are going to be in the 30s for most of the country - on court it's usually about 10 degrees more plus they're running around chasing balls being hit at 140mph+ for hours. Worth remembering whilst most of us are sitting around (largely speaking) working or surfing the web etc etc and still wondering how we'll cope.

The conditions are admittedly the same for both teams (both individuals in tennis) but that doesn't make it any more bearable, or that people aren't going to be susceptible to things like heatstroke or dehydration .

Honestly I can see the logic of protecting the players, even if it means they get more chance to go off the pitch to get somewhere cool for a few minutes and take on some fluids or get some physio.
I get all of the safety reasons and it makes perfect sense. But .....

No one goes to, or sits down to watch, a football match thinking it might be over four hours before they see a result. It's not cricket!!

Maybe they should be holding the tournament in Spring when lightning storms are less likely?

I don't remember it being an issue in 1994.
 

PynchonForest

Stuart Pearce
I get all of the safety reasons and it makes perfect sense. But .....

No one goes to, or sits down to watch, a football match thinking it might be over four hours before they see a result. It's not cricket!!

Maybe they should be holding the tournament in Spring when lightning storms are less likely?

I don't remember it being an issue in 1994.
I've lived in Alberta for about 35 years now, and the storms are definitely intensifying due to climate issues planet wide. The number of tornados in the mid west of the USA has increased by over 40% since 2022.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
I get all of the safety reasons and it makes perfect sense. But .....

No one goes to, or sits down to watch, a football match thinking it might be over four hours before they see a result. It's not cricket!!

Maybe they should be holding the tournament in Spring when lightning storms are less likely?

I don't remember it being an issue in 1994.
Idk, maybe in 1994 they didn't have the issue as much or didn't care as much for player and crowd safety. I don't recall it, but I was only ten then and England weren't in it.

How often is it now that a match (in any sport) gets delayed because of a stoppage for someone in the crowd needing medical treatment? How common was that even pre-covid, let alone 10 years ago?

I agree with you that mostly the expectation is for the match to last 45 mins plus stoppage time plus 15 mins half time plus 45 mins plus stoppage time, so all in a couple of hours, but if the conditions mean they need to come off for a bit, then so be it.

I seem to recall the odd occasion, in any case, where a heavy rainstorm has meant that the players have gone off and sometimes the match has had to be abandoned due to the pitch getting waterlogged. This can also happen in a lightning storm.

The solution is closing the roof, but then that makes it an indoor match and less appealing. Assuming there is a roof to close.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
There is in Atlanta, where PSG are playing with Inter Miami right now.

Apparently Messi is playing. You wouldn't necessarily know from watching the game.
Surprised everyone isn't like OMG MESSI every 5 seconds.
 

Monkman

Jack Burkitt
No it isn't. The point is the game is stopped due to lightning safety issues. Not heat. Now, whether that will destroy the WC next summer remains to be seen. But it is standard fare here in North America, particularly in the central regions of North America, where lightning/thunder storms are commonplace and can get apocalyptic within minutes. The storms I see here in Alberta are end of the world events.
But if they happen in summer then they're likely to happen next summer. So the original point was valid.
 

PynchonForest

Stuart Pearce
But if they happen in summer then they're likely to happen next summer. So the original point was valid.
Oh for certain. This things are not going away. They will only get worse. Add in wildfire smoke issues etc. What a wonderful time to be alive.
 

valspoodle

Ian Bowyer
Ah. Wasn't paying full attention.

I've experienced that too, was in Nashville watching the Vanderbilt Commodores v South Carolina Gamecocks (I kid you not!!) College football. Fortunately it wasn't until 10 minutes before the end that the storm got close enough, and the visitors were 25 points ahead. I didn't bother hanging around for the restart.

Either way, the sentiment remains. It'll be utter shit if it happens in next year's World Cup.
I read that at first as the Vanderbilt Commodes and thought they must be the OAP branch.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist

valspoodle

Ian Bowyer
Just watched that PSG game and my main interest was to decide that pink is not really a colour for a football shirt.

Obviously Messi decided at half time that his mates just were not trying hard enough and he upped the pace in the second half, but to little avail.
 

PynchonForest

Stuart Pearce
Mascherano and Inter offered to forfeit the match at half time, but were refused by tournament organizers "if they wanted to get paid". Incredible.
 
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