Carlos Miguel dos Santos Pereira

Ragnar

Ragnar

Youth Team
I trust Nuno on this one. He knows a thing or two about goalkeepers. He sees Carlos in training every day and he knows what our younger ones can do if needed and I guess he knows what could be brought in if need be. No need to lose sleep over this one.
 
Tricky Tourist

Tricky Tourist

Geoff Thomas
Did something go off between Miguel and Nuno that I have missed? He played in both the friendlies before the Portugal camp, intimating he was still in Nuno's thoughts as a squad member. I thought he looked a lot more confident and capable in those two appearances, especially against Monaco. Then suddenly he vanished, and has not been seen since.
 
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marshal99

Stuart Pearce
maybe miguel speak out of turn to nuno about wanting to play more and be no.1 and set nuno off who promptly told him to look for a new club, something obviously happened for nuno to ostracise miguel like that.
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
It doesn't have to be a drama: Maybe Nuno took one last look and saw the elements of his game that he doesn't rate were still present.

I thought he did ok in the 45 I saw, but I'm far from a goalkeeping expert. Nuno knows...
 
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Mr H

Viv Anderson
Tricky Tourist said:
Did something go off between Miguel and Nuno that I have missed? He played in both the friendlies before the Portugal camp, intimating he was still in Nuno's thoughts as a squad member. I thought he looked a lot more confident and capable in those two appearances, especially against Monaco. Then suddenly he vanished, and has not been seen since.
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According to this, Nuno made a decision he was not in the squad for the new season:

sportwitness.co.uk

Nuno makes decision - Nottingham Forest player told to find new club despite aspirations - Sport Witness

Carlos Miguel is no longer part of Nottingham Forest’s plans and is now on the club’s outgoing list, according to a report from Brazil. UOL Esporte journalist Bruno Andrade claims the 25-year-old goalkeeper has been made available for transfer, with manager Nuno Espírito Santo deciding not to...
sportwitness.co.uk sportwitness.co.uk
 
Statto

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Gyros Peter said:
It doesn't have to be a drama: Maybe Nuno took one last look and saw the elements of his game that he doesn't rate were still present.

I thought he did ok in the 45 I saw, but I'm far from a goalkeeping expert. Nuno knows...
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There's a lot to be said for Nuno's view when he played the position professionally. Although that doesn't always work - Ferguson and Clough had very successful defensive setups but played as strikers.
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Statto said:
There's a lot to be said for Nuno's view when he played the position professionally. Although that doesn't always work - Ferguson and Clough had very successful defensive setups but played as strikers.
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I'm guessing both knew that if you had a really good forward and made them the odd chance they'd win you games, provided you didn't ship many.
 
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Bing Crosby's Head

Geoff Thomas
Gyros Peter said:
I'm guessing both knew that if you had a really good forward and made them the odd chance they'd win you games, provided you didn't ship many.
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I can't remember if it was at Middlesbrough or Sunderland but Cloughie didn't like the defence as they were leaking goals so he had to bail them out by scoring. No surprise that he wanted a strong defence as manager.
 
Statto

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Gyros Peter said:
I'm guessing both knew that if you had a really good forward and made them the odd chance they'd win you games, provided you didn't ship many.
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Yes, and largely they did have sides which scored a few, Utd especially, Clough less so.

But it's always going to be more successful than a side which scores a few and lets in a few. Keegan's sides were always a good example of that and more recently of course Ange. If you need to score 2 or 3 to draw then it doesn't help as opposed to needing 1 or 2 to win.

Seem to remember when George Graham took over at Leeds the first season they managed a very low number of both GF and GA (and 4 of those against I think were conceded under Howard Wilkinson), but they finished quite high up because they were rarely beaten. The summer after they bought Hasselbaink and that setup helped turn the club around, though it wasn't much longer after that he left for Spurs and David O'Leary took over, again like Wenger at Arsenal his success was mainly founded on Graham's solid defence. He was a striker as well...
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
I wonder if there's any correlation between successful managers and playing position?

I suspect not, but think you see more of the game on the edge of it (goalkeeper, striker, defender) as opposed to in the middle which are often thought of as more likely to succeed in management... Quite often ex-captains.

Think Nuno said he had plenty of time to study the game as he spent a lot of time on the bench. Humble!
 
Statto

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Gyros Peter said:
I wonder if there's any correlation between successful managers and playing position?

I suspect not, but think you see more of the game on the edge of it (goalkeeper, striker, defender) as opposed to in the middle which are often thought of as more likely to succeed in management... Quite often ex-captains.

Think Nuno said he had plenty of time to study the game as he spent a lot of time on the bench. Humble!
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That's what OGS said when he was coming off the bench to influence matches, he was watching the defence for weaknesses which he could exploit. He must have seen plenty against us!

I suppose if you know how to build a wall you know how best to knock it down. A defender would know how a defence could be weak so could use that knowledge to attack a defence. And likewise, a striker would know how to defend against an attacker.

Midfield probably gets the best tacticians though.

It'd be interesting to compare (aside from the ones like Houllier, Wenger, Mourinho etc who were never really players, and I suppose Cooper as well) with what position the top managers were as players and their managerial style.
 
StuartsLeftFoot

StuartsLeftFoot

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