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Brice Lauriche Samba - „Magic Hands“

Cortez the Killer

Impressive member
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

Brice Samba hasn't been and isn't the problem.
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EmmersonForest4

Stuart Pearce
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

Forest won't find a better keeper as a Championship club. Like everyone he'll make errors. And as goes for all goalkeepers his tend to result in goals against his team.

Yesterday he made an error that resulted in Forest going from seventeenth to seventeenth in division two. Was a good time to make it.

That’s obviously not true as DDV was a better keeper so it is possible but I appreciate it may e hard to get one of DDVs ability but it’s possible.
 
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EmmersonForest4

Stuart Pearce
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

Brice Samba hasn't been and isn't the problem.

Well I’m my opinion he has been part of the problem this season. I don’t think any player can cover themselves in glory besides Worrall and Garner. Everyone mainly at Forest has been distinctly average.

We have had better keepers in the past but I do think samba is capable of playing in a promotion side however if we are going to give figgy stick than samba deserves his fair share I’ve counted at least 5 errors this season. I like Samba but like so many of our players he needs to pull his finger out. We won’t get promoted if he keeps performing like this. It’s not just Samba but the whole team need get better.
 

Rob1965

Inequity & hypocrisy
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

Well I’m my opinion he has been part of the problem this season. I don’t think any player can cover themselves in glory besides Worrall and Garner. Everyone mainly at Forest has been distinctly average.

We have had better keepers in the past but I do think samba is capable of playing in a promotion side however if we are going to give figgy stick than samba deserves his fair share I’ve counted at least 5 errors this season. I like Samba but like so many of our players he needs to pull his finger out. We won’t get promoted if he keeps performing like this. It’s not just Samba but the whole team need get better.

The problem here is that you concentrate only on the negative, looking for mistakes, looking for something to complain about. I honestly think you are only happy when we play badly.

You say most of the players have been ‘distinctly average’, well I have news for you Forest are a ‘distinctly average’ club, we have players that fit the club we currently are.
 

EmmersonForest4

Stuart Pearce
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

The problem here is that you concentrate only on the negative, looking for mistakes, looking for something to complain about. I honestly think you are only happy when we play badly.

You say most of the players have been ‘distinctly average’, well I have news for you Forest are a ‘distinctly average’ club, we have players that fit the club we currently are.

I’m not happy at all at doing badly I think people misread my tone which is easy on a forum. It’s more head bashing stuff by me because we constantly do the same mistakes over and over as a club. It’s incredibly frustrating so it’s more of a vent of frustration.

I don’t just look at the negatives but the question here for me has Samba been promotion standard this season. No he hasn’t he’s been middle of the road. Not really poor but not great. Your last paragraph is in complete agreement with me and I know it’s not news. The point is the main aim is promotion so judging by that the players have been bang average and as I said many times it would be really unfair just to single out Samba but he has shown the quality this season.
My main point is if we want to get promoted than Samba is going to have to be a lot better however he’s good for a distinctly average championship football side.
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

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Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

That’s obviously not true as DDV was a better keeper so it is possible but I appreciate it may e hard to get one of DDVs ability but it’s possible.

No, he wasn't. Not for Forest.
 
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Francis Benali (on loan)

Guest
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

My abiding memories of Dorus are of the clangers he dropped at Spurs when we were one up with half hour to play with four thousand travelling fans wearing green jumpers....and when we were one up at Sheff Utd with half hour to play in game that had Forest won they'd won would taken us through to our only cup quarter-final of the last twenty-years, at home to Charlton.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

He was a very consistent part of the back line under Freedman when Darlow had finally cleared off to the barcodes and appeared to have some sort of match play agreement in that loan because both Psycho and Freedman gave de Vries chance that season and he did well enough not to be dropped again.

Considering the players we had and could attract into that defence, the likes of Matt Mills, Michael Mancienne, Danny Fox, we were reasonably tight defensively (47 against in 46 matches) in fact we only conceded 3 goals twice that season.

I think that if he'd not gone to Celtic the season after to sit on their bench for a lot of money we'd have not been such a shambles defensively.

For us he's probably a similar level to Samba (our defensive record that season is pretty similar to this), both are better than anything we've had between them (best of that lot probably Pants) and both slightly better than Darlow and Camp, before then you're probably looking at Beasant and Crossley who were no doubt better than anything since.
 

EmmersonForest4

Stuart Pearce
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

Camp was amazing under Davies but that showed how good Davies was as a manager in my opinion. Davies got so much out of ordinary players it’s a shame that we didn’t a slightly higher quality for him.
 

EmmersonForest4

Stuart Pearce
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

No, he wasn't. Not for Forest.

Obviously going to have a disagree. In fairness though you could easily say De Vries didn’t spend as much time here and it’s harder to be consistent for longer. This season Samba for me has been extremely average for where we thought we’d be and our ambitions. There won’t be many promotion sides in the champ looking at Samba and wishing they had him.

I’m not saying he should go or be dropped because talent wise he one of the better ones in our squad but the hype he gets and fans saying he is bonafide prem quality make me laugh. No prem team on his showing this year would pay anything more than 5 mill for him.
Also if everyone is going to be fair samba has made a lot of errors like Figgy yet one is described as awesome and the other as a dead horse. I think Samba would be due a drop of we had a the same quality as backup but we have Jordan Smith who is pants so give me samba all day of the week.
 

MASE

Up-Front
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

We seem to spend a few weeks convincing ourselves he's mustard then he fucks up, rinse & repeat.

As good as anyone with his distribution, in the mix with everyone else outside of that, Luckily I don't think them two points will be too costly.
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

We seem to spend a few weeks convincing ourselves he's mustard then he fucks up, rinse & repeat.

As good as anyone with his distribution, in the mix with everyone else outside of that, Luckily I don't think them two points will be too costly.

Keepers make mistakes though, it's just unfortunate they lead to goals, no-one's talking about the ones Ameobi put into the upper tier are they?

But when Samba or Figs makes a mistake it leads to a chance and often a goal.

He's without doubt one of the better keepers in this division, and would do a job in the PL. His shot stopping is good, his distribution is good, he is good on crosses despite not being that tall for a keeper, the defence feels confident with him behind them. Even the top keepers make mistakes.

Since relegation from the PL our (first choice) keepers are probably around the lines of

Beasant/Crossley
Samba
de Vries
Camp
Darlow
Ward
Gerrard (slightly behind as he didn't get a top 6 finish and we went down
P Smith
Stojkovic

big gap
J Smith
Pedersen
Hoult


huge gap

cone
 

Farmer Jack

Stuart Pearce
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

Keepers make mistakes though, it's just unfortunate they lead to goals, no-one's talking about the ones Ameobi put into the upper tier are they?

But when Samba or Figs makes a mistake it leads to a chance and often a goal.

He's without doubt one of the better keepers in this division, and would do a job in the PL. His shot stopping is good, his distribution is good, he is good on crosses despite not being that tall for a keeper, the defence feels confident with him behind them. Even the top keepers make mistakes.

Since relegation from the PL our (first choice) keepers are probably around the lines of

Beasant/Crossley
Samba
de Vries
Camp
Darlow
Ward
Gerrard (slightly behind as he didn't get a top 6 finish and we went down
P Smith
Stojkovic

big gap
J Smith
Pedersen
Hoult


huge gap

cone

You forgot the Pantyman, surely he wasn't that forgettable? :D
 

Statto

Free Kick Specialist
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

You forgot the Pantyman, surely he wasn't that forgettable? :D

Knew there's be one, probably he goes between Darlow and Camp tbh
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

Did well again against a team that is relentless in putting pressure on goalkeepers.
 

benj360

First Team Squad
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

I was deemed overly critical of Brice a few weeks ago, which is fair enough (it would be quite boring if we all agreed on everything), so I think it’s only fair that I say he looked very much like the Samba I initially took to when he broke onto the scene - a very assured performance today! He caught everything that fell near enough to him to reasonably expect him to claim it, and his positioning for one particularly good save in the first half was spot on. He’s gone back to being keen to bowl it out quickly to launch counter attacks too, to good effect occasionally, so I hope the outfield players will get on the same wavelength more often and provide options.
 

Harvey

Chrissy Cohen
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

He's a quality keeper and one of the best in the league

Genuinely don't think there's anything to debate here
 

ubik

Viv Anderson
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

He's a quality keeper and one of the best in the league

Genuinely don't think there's anything to debate here


You'd think so, but I'm sure there was a burner phone tucked away somewhere. Our Vicky will soon root it out.
 

Matt

Stuart Pearce
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

He's a quality keeper and one of the best in the league

Genuinely don't think there's anything to debate here

There has never been anything to debate about Samba.

People just love a scapegoat and every single player in the garibaldi will catch that flak at some point in their time here, justified or not.
 

gamble

Stuart Pearce
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

There has never been anything to debate about Samba.

People just love a scapegoat and every single player in the garibaldi will catch that flak at some point in their time here, justified or not.
Exactly this, too many fans are quick to jump on a player if they make the odd mistake. Brice made a few mistakes and unfortunately when a GK makes mistakes they usually end up in goals against which end up filing up those fans even more, thankfully he's got over those errors and can continue to improve and show those people how good he is.

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Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

Exactly this, too many fans are quick to jump on a player if they make the odd mistake. Brice made a few mistakes and unfortunately when a GK makes mistakes they usually end up in goals against which end up filing up those fans even more, thankfully he's got over those errors and can continue to improve and show those people how good he is.

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It's almost as if players go through spells of form.

Let's be honest if you are a fan that has watched Samba over the past 2 season's and don't rate him then you have a seriously poor judge of a player.
 

EmmersonForest4

Stuart Pearce
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

It's almost as if players go through spells of form.

Let's be honest if you are a fan that has watched Samba over the past 2 season's and don't rate him then you have a seriously poor judge of a player.

Up until the first lockdown probably the best keeper in the league since we came back from the 1st lockdown he has made so many mistakes that even though his overall play gas been decent enough it gets ruined with these mistakes,

I will rate him as a quality keeper once these mistakes stop happening or happen rarely. Id have him next season because there is a quality player in there just needs some more consistency.
 

Rzar

Bob McKinlay
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

Up until the first lockdown probably the best keeper in the league since we came back from the 1st lockdown he has made so many mistakes that even though his overall play gas been decent enough it gets ruined with these mistakes,

I will rate him as a quality keeper once these mistakes stop happening or happen rarely. Id have him next season because there is a quality player in there just needs some more consistency.

He didn't make "so many mistakes", he made a few - like every other goalkeeper in the entire world, that includes the top level.

As I said in my previous post, you have a seriously poor judge of a player.
 

andover red

Geoff Thomas
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

Up until the first lockdown probably the best keeper in the league since we came back from the 1st lockdown he has made so many mistakes that even though his overall play gas been decent enough it gets ruined with these mistakes,

I will rate him as a quality keeper once these mistakes stop happening or happen rarely. Id have him next season because there is a quality player in there just needs some more consistency.

He is already consistent. What you are looking for isn't consistency, it's perfection.

This is why you always appear to focus on the negatives. It's also why I suspect you'll never be satisfied.
 

gamble

Stuart Pearce
Re: Brice Samba - „Magic Hands“

Up until the first lockdown probably the best keeper in the league since we came back from the 1st lockdown he has made so many mistakes that even though his overall play gas been decent enough it gets ruined with these mistakes,

I will rate him as a quality keeper once these mistakes stop happening or happen rarely. Id have him next season because there is a quality player in there just needs some more consistency.
If Brice doesn't make any mistakes then he's the best goalkeeper in the world, Adrian at Liverpool made 5/6 massive mistakes in a row this season yet he's considered a world class goalkeeper.

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