Billy to single handedly shift away fans?

thehockleyhustler

Stuart Pearce
Something we have all be calling for for years. Now we have Mr Davies on the case I expect we may well see something happen...

http://www.thisisnottinghamforest.c...midating/article-1851429-detail/article.html?

HAVING equalled a club record eight consecutive home wins in the space of a season, the City Ground must already qualify as one of the most intimidating venues in the Championship.

But, as his promotion chasing squad look to make it win number nine in succession on home turf against Middlesbrough today, Billy Davies has one goal in mind.

The Scot wants to make it an even harder place to come.

Having visited places such as the Bernabau and San Siro in recent seasons, Davies believes he knows exactly how to achieve this.

And he wants to start by moving the visiting supporters from their current position, just behind the goal.


In recent months, Sheffield Wednesday and Derby have packed out the lower tier of the Bridgford Stand, with their fans providing noisy vocal support.

And, while that may make for a rousing atmosphere on the banks of the River Trent, Davies is concerned Forest are giving their opponents an unnecessary aid.

Now he wants Forest to hand out as few away tickets as possible – as is often the case when they travel themselves.

"It doesn't help when we hand out 4,000 tickets to away fans and then go to their place and get less than 2,000 for our fans," said Davies, in a veiled dig at East Midlands rivals Derby County. "These things do not help us.

"What we have to do, as a club, is learn who our friends are.

"Whatever clubs do to us, we have to return the favour.

"We have to look at that right through the club and realise that all these little things matter.

"Personally, I would like to see the away fans put somewhere high up in the stand in a corner, with about 1,500 tickets available to them.

"I went to the Bernabau Stadium. I know it is a different situation there but, if you compare it, the away fans are on the very back tier of the stadium.

"They are miles away from the pitch, a little pocket of fans, and they have no influence on the game at all."

Middlesbrough are likely to bring a reasonable away following to Nottingham today, even if it won't be to the same level as their more local rivals.

"Sheffield Wednesday and Derby come to our ground and their fans have a big influence on the game, sat right behind our goal," said Davies.

"The quicker we remove that influence, the better we will be at the City Ground.

"Against Sheffield Wednesday I had to drum it into our players at half-time – I had to tell them not to drop deep and let them get sucked towards their travelling fans.

"We have to review the situation and see what can be done as soon as is possible.

"It is not up to me to decide, I can only recommend these things."

Davies believes the form of his side – and the standard of football they have been playing – have attributed to the rise in home attendance levels this season.

But, while that is an encouragement, he says his main aim is merely to give the side the best possible chance of maintaining their remarkable run of form, as they come into the critical final months of the campaign.

"The only match we have lost in months at home was against Blackpool and you can remember Ian Holloway's comments after that.

"It was a match we deserved more from.

"Our (average) home attendances are also up by more than 2,000 on last season.

"That tells you the great support we are getting, so great credit to everyone.

"But it is a situation we need to look at.

"There must be a way we can give visiting teams less of an advantage."

In the meantime, Davies says Forest's mental strength will be as important as their physical attributes in the coming months. He said: "It is exciting nerves now. It is not like last season when we were fighting relegation.

"We just have to remain confident and positive.

"With the points we have on the board and the remaining matches we have, we just have to remain focussed. We will not get too excited when we win, we will not get too down if we draw.

"And we will certainly not let it affect us if we lose a match.

"We will keep working away, because there are a lot of points to be played for.

"But the important thing is that we are fighting it out at the top end of the table and we have to be confident.

"And our fans can play a part for us as well, if they can help us make sure this is a tough place to come for the rest of the season."
 

cknu

Viv Anderson
I wouldn't want to sit in the lower tier if they were in an upper tier. I think they should do the same as the old cup games. Brian clough t and s block. Entrance near away buses. Can block the concourse midway. Plus they get wet when it rains and blinded n
by the sun. ;)
 

BadgerJim

Viv Anderson
He's absolutely correct, something a lot of people have been saying for some time, it's a joke that clubs are getting 4k off us and then give us a paltry tocket allowance.

I think given the increase in home ticket sales it makes it more of a viable thing, when we were in division 3 with low home gates it made sense to give all of lower bridgford as we wouldn't have got anywhere near filling it in any case, things are different now, let's take advantage of that and get it sorted before the end of the season, could you imagine how gutted you would be to not get a ticket for the last game of the season for that seat to be filled by an away fan!!!
 

kennylaing

First Team Squad
At last a manager that realises what we have all been saying for years. I had a ST when the trent end was being done and sat in lower bridgeford for half the season and the acoustics were superb.

Stick the away fans in the Brian Clough stand somewhere and give us back Colwick Road!
 

Si Coe

First Team Squad
Agree 100%. Even if the away fans have to stay in the Bridgford Lower, it would be good (if safe and possible) to allocate the Sh**p and others the same number they give us.

An interesting thought tho - if/when we get a new stadium with a 45-50k capacity, would we give Manure/L'pool/etc maybe 4 or 5 thousand when we still had 4 or 5 thousand empty seats maybe?
 

Oakwood Red

First Team Squad
About time a manager understood this point and make it loud and clear give the away fans the minimum we have to and put them somewhere away from goal....... Car Park??
 

Forever Forest

Geoff Thomas
Brilliant. Hope this one comes off! Well done Billy. I would sit there ext season if we got oved there.Could be the new A Block wth brilliant acoustics!

O O we are the Bridgford Boys!
 

T.B.T.

Forum Princess
LTLF Minion
Fantastic to hear that Billy is behind this move having recognised that we give our opponents an unecessary advantage giving them prime position in the Bridgford End.

I fully support a move of visiting fans but let's keep them low and local so that we don't lose the banter. Cheering and responding to the taunts is an important and noisy part of our home support which we should use to our full advantage. :)
 
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winnits

Guest
Good to hear someone at the club finally realising this is an issue.
 

outsider

Viv Anderson
The only problem with putting away fans in some crap part of the stadium or severely limiting their numbers is that it will encourage them to get seats in the home end. You could limit this by restricting ticket sales to persons with purchase history but you couldn't do this for every match or it would be impossible for new home supporters to get tickets.
 

RICH1977

John Robertson
god I love billy, lets hope the powers that be listen too him on this one, even if we split the lower tier 50/50 it would be a improvement
 

BrickTop

Grenville Morris
"Personally, I would like to see the away fans put somewhere high up in the stand in a corner, with about 1,500 tickets available to them.

Yeah stick them all up in Chandler Corner.
 

Gary

No wonder my post count..
I say allocate 2 seats to away fans all over our stands. 750 pairs of seats dotted about the CG.

That'll shut the f***ers up and keep their influence to a minimum!
 

Tutts

Ian Bowyer
I say allocate 2 seats to away fans all over our stands. 750 pairs of seats dotted about the CG.

That'll shut the f***ers up and keep their influence to a minimum!

This would be amusing.

I remember us playing Man City not long after they came up from the then 2nd division.

They'd sold out the away allocation comfortably. I was sat in Lower BC when they scored and all over the stand, random people stood up and cheered.

Promptly causing one irrate Forest fan to kick one of the down the stairs. lol
 

Forever Forest

Geoff Thomas
I reckon the only place for them is the Cloughie lower - near the bridgford end. That way, they are still near the buses, there not above us so cant chuck things at us (like we do to them!) and we get both 'ends' at the ground. A bit like Wolves and the geordies do. That way when we score at either end, you see the crowd go mad. Horrible on TV seeing the away fans jumping up and down in our ground

I hate seeing the bridgford end empty with shit away followings, much better to have any empty seat high in the stands as it looks better on the TV!
 

Erik

oopsy daisy!
LTLF Minion
Agree 100%. Even if the away fans have to stay in the Bridgford Lower, it would be good (if safe and possible) to allocate the Sh**p and others the same number they give us.

An interesting thought tho - if/when we get a new stadium with a 45-50k capacity, would we give Manure/L'pool/etc maybe 4 or 5 thousand when we still had 4 or 5 thousand empty seats maybe?
I agree with all that.

However, the Football club will always sell every ticket it possibly can sell to maximise revenue. If they can sell 4000 'away' tickets then they will regardless of the number of tickets we get allocated in return, or the effect on the matchday atmosphere. That is unlikely to change.

There have always been strenous objections from both Police and Club, despite any number of perfectly reasonable suggested alternatives, to moving away support from the BC lower stand, or moving Forest support into that area (unless there are only very very few away supporters). Once agin, it will take a seismic shift in policy for this view to be changed.

BD is right, we've all known this for years, but things will probably remain as they are until we move to a new ground.
 

RICH1977

John Robertson
remember that game, didn't we loose around 4-0 or something similar, random city fans started running on the pitch with every goal from random areas of the ground.
 

Forever Forest

Geoff Thomas
BD is right, we've all known this for years, but things will probably remain as they are until we move to a new ground.[/QUOTE]


Unfortunately I think your 100% right :mad:

Then again, if any manger could influence this move, then King Billy can :cheers:
 

Kier

Banned
This would be amusing.

I remember us playing Man City not long after they came up from the then 2nd division.

They'd sold out the away allocation comfortably. I was sat in Lower BC when they scored and all over the stand, random people stood up and cheered.

Promptly causing one irrate Forest fan to kick one of the down the stairs. lol

Didn't Bart-Williams score a 30 yard screamer that day as well?

When we played big clubs in the Premiership we always got plenty of away fans, normally sporting East Midlands accents, in the home end. I remember sitting next to Arsenal and Liverpool fans on different occassions.

I wouldn't mind if they had the respect and decency to keep quiet!
 

RICH1977

John Robertson
thing is the games where teams have brought big amounts of away fans are probably games we could of sold out there allocation anyway, for example derby, fester are no brainers we will sell as many tickets as we can get our hands on for those games, wba first home game of the season will sell well, newcastle again is a game we would of sold out for easily.
 

T.B.T.

Forum Princess
LTLF Minion
With respects to away ticket allocations at the City Ground for big in-demand matches, why not allocate the minimum number and await a request for more?

We could then allocate more tickets, if we feel like it, to fill the T Block (or alternative) to capacity.

I understand the need to sell as many tickets as possible but would much prefer to sell them to home fans than away ones.
 

SoLred

A. Trialist
Newcastle have the right idea about allowing a small number of away supporters and then putting them out of the way. Take you binoculars if you're going next month.
 

ubique

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