Billy got cocky

[Gabriel]

We play 4-5-1 away from home with Dexter or Dele alone up front. What was he playing at playing Earnie and Dexter? He got cocky thats what. he let passion and revenge get in the way of judgement. Went for the win as opposed to not losing.

I hope he's learnt his lesson.



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[dbarraclough]

Yes. Billy was partly to blame. But I was first to congratulate him on his team selection prior to kick off. My biggest worry is that Billy looks too much into his error on the day and reverts to too negative tactics at less daunting fixtures. We know that Der*y are shit. However it was always going to be a more combative and difficult game than many teams higher up the league. I hope he sticks with 4-4-2 at home and goes for a similar team against the likes of Preston and Scunny away. I would be really disappointed if he went back to starting with Dele alone up front with a 5 man midfield incorporating a Garner and Mcgoldrick.

 

[Forest_Ant]

We play 4-5-1 away from home with Dexter or Dele alone up front. What was he playing at playing Earnie and Dexter? He got cocky thats what. he let passion and revenge get in the way of judgement. Went for the win as opposed to not losing.

I hope he's learnt his lesson.



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Absolutely spot on I'm afraid. I thought the same thing

 

[PaNtHeRs]

I think judging on what billy davies has done for this club we can forgive that ,Lets face it if you was manager and playing derby you would want to hammer them

 

[Al LeftLion]

Although this does prove fans (and possibly players) that have been critical of playing 4-5-1 away from home wrong. He said something along those lines after the game, yes he made a mistake, but you learn a lot from your mistakes.

 

[Gabriel]

I think judging on what billy davies has done for this club we can forgive that ,Lets face it if you was manager and playing derby you would want to hammer them

I forgive him, i a will try to forget, penguins have long memories though so it may take until Lunchtime

 

[Kier]

Who's to say it would not have turned out the same anyway had he gone 4-5-1? There were bigger problems on Saturday than the formation. I would bet most fans (including myself) would have wanted him to stick with the winning formula that had served us well in the previous two games.

At the end of the day Billy has been amazing for our club, therefore he doesn't deserve any criticism from the fan when he may or may not have got his tactics spot on.

 

[puds1970]

We play 4-5-1 away from home with Dexter or Dele alone up front. What was he playing at playing Earnie and Dexter? He got cocky thats what. he let passion and revenge get in the way of judgement. Went for the win as opposed to not losing.

I hope he's learnt his lesson.



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At the same time how many people would criticise BD for only playing 1 up front against "a team thats there for the taking" "team near the bottom of the table" and I'm sure if he had played 1 up front and lost the old "we have never had a better chance to win at prideless park and he only played 1 up front".

As I've said we under performed but I would have played 2 up front on Saturday because although Barker is a decent defender IMO Buxton is a real weak link and to have Earnie playing at his full potential would have been too much for him.
It didn't work out for us so we just have to accept it and learn.

 

[PaNtHeRs]

Football is a real bastard sometimes and if anyone was going to end our away record it would be them scummers

 

[wearenottingham]

1 error in 20 ain't bad :wink:.

 

[The Vicar]

I was amazed that Earnie played ahead of the Moose and said so at the time.
I also think the bobbly pitch did as no favours as an extra touch was often needed before we got the ball moving, giving them time to get in our face and follow through on us.
Hulse could easily have been sent off for following through on a defender 60 secs after having been booked for the same offence many refs would not tolerate that. I also think if we had been playing at home we may have had a penalty or 2.

 

[sammysnake]

I'm not critical of Billy's formation at all, all he did was try to play footy will the same winning formula that has been so impressive this season.

Billy will get his reward

 

[nigelnffc]

My opinion Billy didn't get cocky he was going to play 4-5-1 i am pretty sure of that and the we went and won 5-0, if he had changed the team and we had lost he may have been criticised more, i am pretty sure if we had won 1 or 2 nil mid week he would have gone 1 up front, personally yes i would have gone 4-5-1 still but i am pretty sure it was playing on his mind all week on what way to play and i think you could tell that in his interview on Radio Nottingham after the match, i honestly think that he just made the wrong choice he wasn't being cocky he had just chosen to go with a team that just a few days before had won 5-0. I also have to say 4-4-2 could have easily worked if Mckenna had had a good game he gave the ball away too much and opted to kick it up field rather than look for a pass far too often, perch was also exposed at left back as it is not his position

 

[king_congo_red]

If Billy hadn't let his guard down, I reckon he would have 'had' Clough...

 

[wemaybefamousagain]

We play 4-5-1 away from home with Dexter or Dele alone up front. What was he playing at playing Earnie and Dexter? He got cocky thats what. he let passion and revenge get in the way of judgement. Went for the win as opposed to not losing.

I hope he's learnt his lesson.



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I was saying this to my brother just before kick off. We have managed to pick points away from home when playing the trusted 4-5-1 formation regardless of the opposition.

If it ain't broke and all that.

 

[george lyall]

I just think he found it hard to drop players from a team that had demolished QPR, and nothing else!

 

[Killer]

Although i feel that the formation influenced the result, i think the main reason we lost was because so many players under performed on the day. Whenever Mckenna got the ball he couldn't find a red shirt with it - in my opinion his worst game wearing the garibaldi. Whenever Raddy got the ball he either got twatted or crowded out forcing him to give the ball away. The one time he did get any room he beat two men to the byeline and put it on a plate for Anderson, who clipped the ball away from goal when it must have been easier to score. Don't even want to talk about Perch who's needless push in Common's back gave away the fk that led to the goal...

My point is that if we had played half as well as we did against West Brom for example, we would have won comfortably.

One thing that i cannot help thinking though, is that although most 'sheep shafters' will say they played like Brazil, am i the only person on here that thinks that D***y were just as bad as us on Saturday, the only difference is that they took their chance when it came?

 

[weasel]

The strange thing is I questioned him when he first began leaving Rob Earnshaw out in these sorts of fixtures, only to be proved utterly wrong.

He then goes back on his very successful team and Earnshaw doesn't get a kick. The whole affair was very odd, played down from day one, as if we didn't even want to win it.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

Well, if you all know better maybe you should manage the club from now on?


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No? Thought not.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, although I doubt based on our lads performances the scoreline would have been any difference adding the extra man in midfield.

One loss in twenty. Grow up.

 

[weasel]

Well, if you all know better maybe you should manage the club from now on?


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No? Thought not.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, although I doubt based on our lads performances the scoreline would have been any difference adding the extra man in midfield.

One loss in twenty. Grow up.

Bit harsh!

I think the debate we're having here is what it's all about. No one is questioning Billy as such, everyone loves the guy. People are simply saying hmmm, perhaps in hindsight Tyson should have played, we didn't have enough bottle, Moussi should have played, which is what Billy himself will be doing. Everyone knows it's with the benefit of hindsight, and no one is suggesting they know more than Billy.

you grow up

 

[wemaybefamousagain]

Well, if you all know better maybe you should manage the club from now on?


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No? Thought not.

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, although I doubt based on our lads performances the scoreline would have been any difference adding the extra man in midfield.

One loss in twenty. Grow up.

Why is it a matter of growing up? Have you never stated an opinion in hindsight? Anyway, I had previously stated that I was worried before the game kicked off so it is not hindsight put perhaps foresight in my case! I don't think anyone is saying they are better than Billy but just that he may have got carried away because he wanted to smash Derby so much.

 

[MaxiRobriguez]

Never 'stated an opinion in hindsight', no. I don't believe in questioning my decision making process. I hope Billy is the same, would be a shame for us to rule out 4-4-2 away from home in the future based on some over-reactions.