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John Robertson
Does anyone have or know where i can get hold of the average attendances for forest for as far back as possible? I can't seem to find them anywhere. :wacko:
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DanR
Steve Chettle
If Bridport Red still runs his site, it'd be the sort of thing he might have. I can't remember the exact address, google Bridport Red.
PSR
Geoff Thomas
edgardinho said:
Does this help?
http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/attnclub/notf.htm
http://www.european-football-statistics.co.uk/englandcontent.htm
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John Robertson
perfect - cheers.
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John Robertson
to both!
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Geoff Thomas
edgardinho said:
OBR had found it whilst I was still looking - sorry for posting it again, I didn't notice he'd posted it.
Jelly Bean
Youth Team
Interesting that the attendances in the 80's were so low. Having not been around then i find this hard to understand as we were coming off the Euro cup wins and in the top 10 every year, would've thought this would be the time where the club's support could only expand? Is there a reason for this, ie general downturn in attendances (the 80's was clearly a volitile time for football fans)?
It's Baggio
John Robertson
Jelly Bean said:
Recession, miners strike, football grounds being rather dangerous at that time, I think it was a general theme in the 80's.
In the eighties, football was still a working mans game, the game had stagnated and we were miles behind the Europeans in terms of attractive football. I forget who but about that time an Arsenal Center half commented that if it was not for players like him, the sugar plum fairy could play centre forward.
Violence had reached epidemic proportions,remember this was pre-Hilsborough, terrace culture ruled. No cctv, no sophisticated police actions, violence was met with violence. Football was still a father and son introduction, your local side was the one you supported, or followed your Dad's side in the majority of cases. The media darlings of the big four were only in an embryo stage then, only Man Utd with the legions of Munich Mourners attracted fans outside the locality.
Television started to change that and wean away fans from the local sides, the lifeblood of the game began to ebb away.
The chattering classes had another decade yet before they embraced football due to it's new sexy TV package via the Premier League and the successful Euro 96, which was the cherry on the cake.
Violence had reached epidemic proportions,remember this was pre-Hilsborough, terrace culture ruled. No cctv, no sophisticated police actions, violence was met with violence. Football was still a father and son introduction, your local side was the one you supported, or followed your Dad's side in the majority of cases. The media darlings of the big four were only in an embryo stage then, only Man Utd with the legions of Munich Mourners attracted fans outside the locality.
Television started to change that and wean away fans from the local sides, the lifeblood of the game began to ebb away.
The chattering classes had another decade yet before they embraced football due to it's new sexy TV package via the Premier League and the successful Euro 96, which was the cherry on the cake.
alabamared
Stuart Pearce
sedgred said:
Apart from the violence wasn't it great?
Jelly Bean
Youth Team
Hard for me to understand really, but as someone who's grown up in this recent era of football it seems incredible that a team who just wins 2 european cups doesn't grow to become a giant of english football with a huge fan base. I've heard the 'provincial club' talk numerous times but i would've thought we would've broke through that barrier as soon as forest achieved the incredible success they did.
Its always bugged me a bit that Forest are considered a smaller club because Nottingham isn't a massive city, but don't we have a bigger catchment area than the like of Spurs, Arsenal or Chelsea?
Its always bugged me a bit that Forest are considered a smaller club because Nottingham isn't a massive city, but don't we have a bigger catchment area than the like of Spurs, Arsenal or Chelsea?
sedgred said:
Sedg is right; when I was young, (I'm 40 now) you followed your local side, unless you had family or other reasons to follow someone else.
It was Forest for me, and always has been; the rise of the "global game" and the insistence from the Murdoch-dominated media that Football didn't exist before 1992 is a bit of a misnomer; yes, Nottingham has a potentially huge catchment area (bigger, per head than London, whose population shares Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, West Ham, Fulham, QPR, Brentford, Palace, plus a few others I've forgotten) whereas we have County and the shower down the A52.
The "marketing men" propose that all that matters is the Premier League, and that is just the "big four" (or five) plus a supporting cast.
Me, I'll stick with my local team - Nottingham Forest F. C!
dbarraclough
Viv Anderson
21467 yesterday. Slightly disappointing but it didn't look like City brought many on the TV.
I would of thought the Leicester game will be our highest gate of the remaining games unless we reach the playoffs.
I would of thought the Leicester game will be our highest gate of the remaining games unless we reach the playoffs.
one thing ive noticed recently due to the fact forest are doing well again is that A block is begining to fill up, there only seemed to be a few empty seats in there yesterday compared to early this season, so even though atendances might not be moving up much key areas of the ground apear to be getting more people in the seats. A slight heart beat of a proper atmosphere is also begining to devolop once again I had hairs standing up on the back of my neck when the chant of "we all agree that nottingham forest are magic" started up.
id rather have 21 thousand fans who where 100% behind there team rather than a capacity crowd that sat there in sillence
id rather have 21 thousand fans who where 100% behind there team rather than a capacity crowd that sat there in sillence
dbarraclough
Viv Anderson
Love that chant. Long may it continueRICH1977 said:
wemaybefamousagain
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sedgred said:
Eveything I was going to add although I only started attending from about 1983/83 onwards. It was a different time all together where you had one live match on ITV every Sunday (with the great Brian Moore commentating) and TV did not wreck the fixtures programme.
I like it though because money was not the driving force behind success and clubs relied more on good management, despite the lower crowds and lack of European football (85 onwards obviously).
Roonaldo
Geoff Thomas
RICH1977 said:
It was good, but it was no where near as good a chant as the 'You should be home doing cooking" one aimed at the Linewoman was it?
Back on the subject of attendances, I was amazed to see that we only averaged 31k in 67/68. I always thought we were gettting around 40k every week around that time. Even so, I bet few of that 49946 who were at the Moan U game in '67 would have thought we'd be averaging less than 10000 just six years later.
Good to see we've always been a fickle bunch.