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Anthony David Junior Elanga

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Tays

A. Trialist
Great statement, givern the ambition and the smarter recruitment this summer we're looking like we're getting to a decent footing, if anyone goes in future it'll partly be on our terms.

The big man played a blinder against Levy last year, you'd not want to go toe to toe with him at poker, really please we're holding our own after a touch couple of years.
 
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Dogoo

A. Trialist
It's a lot of money to turn down so will be interesting to see how this plays out. No doubt Elanga is a strong player, with the kind of devastating pace few have, which means his ceiling is very high. We just need to see him being more involved for longer periods of time as he tends to drift out of games. I'm glad overall we stuck with him and didn't sign one of the numerous strikers we were linked to. I honestly think we're playing better now due to having some conistency in the line-up.
 
MaxiRobriguez

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
If we turned down £50m for Elanga we're f***ing stupid.

Like the guy a lot but he's limited, and there's no way he's worth anywhere near that figure. Personally I'd have taken £10m less on deadline day without any immediate replacement, just make do with Jota and Moreira.
 
Captain Sinister

Captain Sinister

Senior doom Monger
MaxiRobriguez said:
If we turned down £50m for Elanga we're f***ing stupid.

Like the guy a lot but he's limited, and there's no way he's worth anywhere near that figure. Personally I'd have taken £10m less on deadline day without any immediate replacement, just make do with Jota and Moreira.
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...and Almiron isn't a bad player, if he was offered in part-ex.
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
MaxiRobriguez said:
If we turned down £50m for Elanga we're f***ing stupid.

Like the guy a lot but he's limited, and there's no way he's worth anywhere near that figure. Personally I'd have taken £10m less on deadline day without any immediate replacement, just make do with Jota and Moreira.
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Believe the deal offered was inclusive of Almiron's value. Regardless, to turn it down at that point was entirely correct imho - they may have met our valuation but it's too late to rectify and he will play an important role this year.
 
Quntib Hollox

Quntib Hollox

Jack Burkitt
I think it’s a decision as a club we’ll live to regret. EA has offered very little in the last 6 months and this was an opportunity to then push the boat out fo4 a striker in January.
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Quntib Hollox said:
I think it’s a decision as a club we’ll live to regret. EA has offered very little in the last 6 months and this was an opportunity to then push the boat out fo4 a striker in January.
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And if we lose a striker before then what's your idea? Lots saying Jota is our backup there - I think it's Elanga.

I think the club have made the right decision here, regardless of any future fee attracted or not. And it's not like we've been actively pursuing Almeron - I bet it was 30m plus him. No ta!
 
Morpeth

Morpeth

John Robertson
Player values go up massively over time relative to inflation so we’ll get the equivalent of £50m whether it was now, January or two years time. This shows no sign of changing so was a good decision not to sell, value wise.

It was also an excellent decision not to sell based on what I said as soon as the bid comes in. It would have been destabilising in many ways and that’s the last thing we needed.
 
Quntib Hollox

Quntib Hollox

Jack Burkitt
Gyros Peter said:
And if we lose a striker before then what's your idea? Lots saying Jota is our backup there - I think it's Elanga.

I think the club have made the right decision here, regardless of any future fee attracted or not. And it's not like we've been actively pursuing Almeron - I bet it was 30m plus him. No ta!
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I’m not seeing enough from EA and this has been going on for a while.
Almiron even if he wasn’t on our wish list is a proven quality operator and would give us a different option up front.
Even if it didn’t work out he retains decent market value plus the other £30 M means we could keep hold of other key players and have more PSR credit in the bank for replacements.
Missed opportunity for me.
 
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Est.1865

Nottingham Forest FC
Gyros Peter said:
Believe the deal offered was inclusive of Almiron's value. Regardless, to turn it down at that point was entirely correct imho - they may have met our valuation but it's too late to rectify and he will play an important role this year.
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Yep 20m+ valuation on Almiron and a couple of years left on a healthy contract to find. Almiron likely turn down the move anyway, he refused a move in January.
 
Gyros Peter

Gyros Peter

Sauce salad?
Quntib Hollox said:
I’m not seeing enough from EA and this has been going on for a while.
Almiron even if he wasn’t on our wish list is a proven quality operator and would give us a different option up front.
Even if it didn’t work out he retains decent market value plus the other £30 M means we could keep hold of other key players and have more PSR credit in the bank for replacements.
Missed opportunity for me.
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Nothing like a missed opportunity for me - valued squad member, important in the dressing room (see Jota celebration), quality player adapting to a new system. Plus the other 30m isn't that - united have a sell on and we have 12m or so to pay.

Fees like 50m sound great, but when it's 12 off the sheet, a player you've no interest in and 10m or so in cash (after United's cut) late in the day it's just not worth it.

Regardless of which way people fall with this deal, I just hope it isn't used to bash the player ever.
 
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youreds1986

Grenville Morris
Worsley Red said:
It’s not all about the money is it but I have a feeling we won’t be offered that kind of sum again for Elanga. I totally get the statement of intent / Marinakis flex point. And I also get that he’s a good lad and a fabulous influence in the dressing room on the group. But a lot of the time remains frustrating to watch.


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This is very valid.

That’s a huge offer from Newcastle and the market has moved on since we got nearly 50 for BJ.

If Elanga wanted the move too then we could be in a position with a frustrated player and a 30m move in Jan or next Summer.

But absolutely fair play to the club. It’s a statement.
 
Mr. Blonde

Mr. Blonde

John Robertson
Think we should have taken that offer for Elanga personally

That's ridiculous money for a player who isn't a guaranteed starter in this side, or has much to his game other than pace

And I don't buy this argument that him leaving last minute would massively affect the rest of the squad either

This is a professional football team, not a Boy Scout Troop
 
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JonnoSnr

First Team Squad
Mr. Blonde said:
Think we should have taken that offer for Elanga personally

That's ridiculous money for a player who isn't a guaranteed starter in this side, or has much to his game other than pace

And I don't buy this argument that him leaving last minute would massively affect the rest of the squad either

This is a professional football team, not a Boy Scout Troop
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I agree and I also think Almiron is a quality player and no slouch himself so I don't think we'd have lost loads in pace down that side.
 
Mr. Blonde

Mr. Blonde

John Robertson
JonnoSnr said:
I agree and I also think Almiron is a quality player and no slouch himself so I don't think we'd have lost loads in pace down that side.
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Elanga and Almiron are about the same level, the difference being that Elanga is 22 and Almiron is 30

So we'd have taken a hit age wise but received a massive chunk of cash in the process

Think the club dropped the ball with this one, personally
 
Listen 'ere young man

Listen 'ere young man

Jack Burkitt
It's wasn't £50m straight was it, it was some unknown amount of money (probably £20m tops) plus a 30 year old midfielder who we didn't want.

We already had JWP on loan by then and have a nice set of 4 wingers for the season. This could be very crucial for this season. Nuno's system relies on wingers and full backs/wing backs bombing forward plus a focal point up front. Having a back up on either side of quality is essential so there isn't a drop off when they are substituted.

According to the reports, there were many factors for EM to refuse this sale and I personally don't have an issue with the decision.

Newcastle might be even more desperate in Jan with injuries and we can revisit this if we have more time to find a replacement.
 
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congo_red_49

congo_red_49

Ale Ape
I can see both sides of the argument - and the decision will largely be judged on what happens next - If Elanga catches fire and hits a streak of good form, the decision to keep him will look very smart. If he doesn't, then it won't.
Shame none of us can see the future, right?
 
Haych

Haych

John Robertson
Elanga will still chip in with his fair share this year so I’m glad we rejected the offer.

I’m pretty sure it was £30M ish plus a player so not £50M straight up, with how prices are today Elanga is probably worth more then £30M anyway, we just got him at a bargain price from United.

5 goals and 9 assists last year isn’t a bad return at all in his first full season here, for comparison Almiron had 3 goals 1 assist and is a lot older.

I know there’s more to his game but MGW had 6 goals and 10 assists as another comparison to Elanga.
 
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