A club clusterf**k? Become a ticket tout I suggest.

[Kilburn Red]

Here is the scenario?

I have a season ticket which will ensure my derby ticket. However I have a couple of friends who would like to attend the Derby game, but I obviously wont be able to buy tickets at the same time as mine. Ultimately meaning they will probably be in a different area and will involve two trips/phone calls etc to secure all 3 tickets.

Now the club have rolled out this blackmail scheme where by if you purchase a Shef W ticket for Tuesday night you will be allowed to buy a Derby tick on a one 2 one basis.

Now my two friends cant make the Shef w game due to work commitments.

The easiest solution I can see to this club clusterf**k conundrum is to purchase 2 unwanted tickets for Shef W in order to secure 3 derby tickets together.

This just leaves the inconvenience/hassle of selling two unwanted Shef W tickets outside the tick office Tuesday evening.

It requires an extra outlay of fifty and perhaps take a small hit on the face value. But what it does do is ensure derby tickets?

I'm sure many more are thinking the same? :think:

 

[trickytrees12]

In exactly the same situation.

I am hoping we can buy two unwanted Under 12 tickets at £6 each and get two adult derby tickets with them, thus only losing out on £12 ... but I doubt they'll let us.

It would certainly be cheeper to get under 18 tickets though as derby us under 16 ... so they'd have to give you adult derby tickets ...

 

[Rich]

Whilst it is a move that will undoubtedly piss off a fair few fans, from a business perspective it is a pretty shrewd thing to do.

Also, it's worth bearing in mind that this will go some way to eliminating those fans who only come out for the trips to Derby/Man City etc.

Personally, I would have liked to see a priority given to people who have attended 5 or more home games this season.

The amount of people around my office who haven't been to a game since Collymore was playing that have come over and talked to me today and told me that they're going to try and get tickets.

In fact, personally, anyone who had a season ticket for all 3 League One seasons should get a free ticket to this game.

 

[Rich]

That's another thing that bothers me.

Games like this should be flat priced. None of this under 18 nonsense.

Why should someone who is 17 have to pay substantially less than me to watch the same game?

 

[EmJay]

I actually think its quite a clever move to give some degree of priority to people who attend a midweek game against a team not doing too well eithier.

With the Wendies bringing 4k down, it ensures 2 large crowds (this match and d*rby in the cup) with the potential for another against Manure.

And fo course with D*rby in the league next month to come, things going well,we could have a few extra quid in the coffers

Are you not alowed to move from your season ticket seat for cup games?

 

[MartynJJ]

I think the club have seriously f*&cked up on this one. For heavens sake it surely is not beyond the wit of man to apply a bit of forward planning and think of the "what if's" ie what if we draw with D%^by and have to host a replay???

So I am sat here in Manchester. If I want to use Forest's online system it seems I can't. If I want to take my missus I have to wait until they go on general sale so we can get a ticket together. And to top it off it seems I have the pleasure of using ticketline and be charged accrodingly

When will this club start to actually put the needs of the fans as a priority.

 

[MartynJJ]

Whilst it is a move that will undoubtedly p**s off a fair few fans, from a business perspective it is a pretty shrewd thing to do.

I would have thought that perhaps making league games a bit cheaper for families to attend over the season and thus filling the ground on a regular and consistent basis would have been far more business astute. This just seems to smack of incompetence and an opportunity to make a quick buck while pissing off part of the fanbase.

 

[Alexandro Garibaldi]

Most clubs run this kind of scheme now where fans who go to an undesirable game get priority for a plumb tie. It's a good idea if you ask me as it rewards a bit of loyalty and makes extra money (and from the fan's point of view, you get to see us thrash two local rivals, not just one! 8)), and that's from someone who doesn't get to all that many games. I wasn't surprised, however, to see that all the information the club put out was confusing and over-complicated.

 

[Rich]

The pricing policy is something completely irrelevant to this situation.

It is worth noting that the prices for families are completely different to the prices for the majority of people. Adults in the famil enclosure are around £15-18 as opposed to the more standard £25-30 for other areas of the ground, and kids are £4 if bought in advance.

This means it is actually cheaper for someone to take their child to the game than it is for them to go to the game alone.

If you remove yourself from your own situation, surely you would be able to see that it is a pretty shrewd thing to do, to guarantee another bumper crowd.

It also eliminates, to a degree, the one game wonder types.

 

[EmJay]

That's another thing that bothers me.

Games like this should be flat priced. None of this under 18 nonsense.

Why should someone who is 17 have to pay substantially less than me to watch the same game?

I would guess 3 reasons.

1) To ensure a future generation of Forest support.

2) If a mum and dad take there 2 kids, all at adult price, thats £100 on tickets before theyve even got to the ground Throw in a couple of programes, a pasty and a coke at half time and maybe a trip to the official merchindise shop, and thats one hell of an expensive family day out.

3) I guess they percieve under 18's to have less money than over 17's, which is proberbly true quite a lot of the time.

 

[Rich]

I would guess 3 reasons.

1) To ensure a future generation of Forest support.

2) If a mum and dad take there 2 kids, all at adult price, thats £100 on tickets before theyve even got to the ground Throw in a couple of programes, a pasty and a coke at half time and maybe a trip to the official merchindise shop, and thats one hell of an expensive family day out.

3) I guess they percieve under 18's to have less money than over 17's, which is proberbly true quite a lot of the time.

The family enclosure does that all of those things.

If a mum and dad take their two kids they would be paying £38 in the family enclosure, providing they got their tickets in advance.

Generally, people who are 17/18 a perceived to have more money than people older than them, as they have a larger degree of disposable income, on the whole, as they tend to live at home and not concern themselves with buying bog roll and cornflakes.

 

[Rigler]

As I've said in another thread, what p**ses me off about it is that a person who hasn't been to a game since the 90's can buy a ticket for the Shef Wed match and then get priority over me.

I've been to 6 games this season and went to about half the home games during the league one years, but won't be at the Shef Wed game.

I considered buying a ticket for the Shef Wed match even though I won't be going, but this would effectively make the Derby ticket £50.

Who ever thinks these things up in the ticket office is a f**king w**ker. :rant:

Whilst it is a move that will undoubtedly p**s off a fair few fans, from a business perspective it is a pretty shrewd thing to do.

There in lies the problem. Football is now first and foremost a business. I'm old fashioned enough to still think of it as a sport, but unfortunately the club don't.

 

[EmJay]

The family enclosure does that all of those things.

If a mum and dad take their two kids they would be paying £38 in the family enclosure, providing they got their tickets in advance.

Generally, people who are 17/18 a perceived to have more money than people older than them, as they have a larger degree of disposable income, on the whole, as they tend to live at home and not concern themselves with buying bog roll and cornflakes.

But then everyone wouldn't be paying the same

 

[Rich]

As I've said in another thread, what p**ses me off about it is that a person who hasn't been to a game since the 90's can buy a ticket for the Shef Wed match and then get priority over me.

I've been to 6 games this season and went to about half the home games during the league one years, but won't be at the Shef Wed game.

I considered buying a ticket for the Shef Wed match even though I won't be going, but this would effectively make the Derby ticket £50.

Who ever thinks these things up in the ticket office is a f**king w**ker. :rant:

There in lies the problem. Football is now first and foremost a business. I'm old fashioned enough to still think of it as a sport, but unfortunately the club don't.

Excellent point about those wanting to just go to Derby buying a Sheff Wed ticket.

I fully agree that there should be a real priority.

As for football being a business, we could continue to have the club run as a sport, Notts County seem to be doing that...

 

[EmJay]

Excellent point about those wanting to just go to Derby buying a Sheff Wed ticket.

I fully agree that there should be a real priority.

As for football being a business, we could continue to have the club run as a sport, Notts County seem to be doing that...

and for the record I totally agree with this too.

There are plenty of people who have been to several games, but don't own a season ticket, who should definantly get priority over people who just go to Sheffield Wednesday.

Anyone who attended 2 of Donny(h), Wolves (a), Plymouth (a) and Norwich(h) should be paid to come :wub:

 

[Rich]

Excellent call there MJ!

 

[EmJay]

I knew I should have gone to Wolves. Id be included in my own system then

 

[Rich]

Donny at home was low. Very low.

 

[DanR]

Donny at home was low. Very low.

If the club decided to compensate every one of us who'd seen an abysmal performance over the last few years, they might even fill the Doughty Bowl in Clifton!

As a non season ticket holder for the first time in 10 years, this kind of offer is frustrating, because I really don't want to go to the Wendies game, I have better things to do. From the club's perspective, it makes sense, I'm a little surprised that sales for Tuesday were low enough to warrant this though.

Anyway, my point is that I made my decision to give up the season ticket, and the respective priorities with it, just as those people who don't have a season ticket also made that decision, and we have to live with it. I'd rather have this than have been knocked out by Derby last Friday night.

 

[Rich]

At times rock bottom has seemed like too high to climb for Forest.

 

[RICH1977]

well Im not a happy bunny at all at times I realy do wonder why I suport this club with the way it treats fans.

friday evening I checked the site for details of when tickets went on general sale, it said season ticket holders saturday and monday 10pm general sale, so happy with that as thats the oficial bloody website I go of about my weekend and dont bother re-checking the info as it was from the club afterall (should know better tbh)

so this morning drive down to ground get there around 9:30pm cue up for 2 tickets for derby for myself and the wife realy wanted a ticket for sheff wed but with me looseing my job recently I couldnt realy afford £76 for 2 games so derby took priority, I get to the window to be informed its season ticket holders only I explain there website had qouted monday they agree and say yeah but its was a mistake and you should of re-checked Im sorry but maybe whoever was in charge of updating the website should of done his job properly in the first place. I was then told I could buy a ticket for the sheff game to get a ticket for the derby game but it was like for like, i.e needed to be 2 adult tickets so would cost me £100 so in the end I just walked away in disgust.

now the thing I dont know if anyone can ans is how do I get the tickets on wednesday as I was told it was telephone or online only and atm I havent got a credit card I can use to pay for the tickets.

 

[MartynJJ]

Apparently it's how business's treat their customers these days

 

[Rigler]

Very good point. Are they saying people who don't have a credit or debit card can't buy tickets for this game?

Granted most people have them, but not everyone.

 

[RICH1977]

I do have a debit card I can use but its solo and its not always catered for on some sites I have 2 creidt cards but have cut them up to avoid using them and running up debts while Im out of work.

I was told earlier that I could buy tickets for A block online yet as I suspected I cant just had A quick look which is why Ive never used there online booking service.

the shit I put up with from the club,

 

[Rich]

As they are on sale through ticketmaster and not the ticket office, my suggestion would be to contact them to see if there is any way for you to get the money to them without using a credit/debit card.

Failing that, I would suggest finding someone who does have a debit card, giving them the cash and using their card to buy online.

Whilst it was obviously a mistake to put the wrong dates/times on the website, I don't think you can attribute blame to them for you not re-reading the website to make sure you had the information correct.

I think the ticket office comes in for a lot of undue criticism from people whose personal circumstances have clouded their vision of the job they do in there.

People who didn't get a Derby ticket were on here moaning about the system, but the numbers simply didn't work to enable everyone to be happy. There were 6,000 tickets for Derby, and about 50,000 people trying to get them. Anyone who didn't get one seemed to blame the ticket office.

I'm not saying that I don't sympathise with your plight here, I genuinely do. However, you have 2 days to arrange something before the tickets go on sale. All of the information is on the website, and you clearly have access to the internet.

Rather than moaning on here, be a little proactive. Contact ticketmaster to see if there is anything you can do, speak to your bank about the possibility of a temporary card, cash transfer or some other means.

One more thing, if the tickets went on sale at the ticket office today at 10am, and you rocked up at 9.30am, I'm pretty certain you wouldn't have got one.