It shows that you're out of touch with what their market research tells them is the state of play.
Are you sure that’s correct? Lots of companies have fallen could recently through products and advertising they are giving their customers. I bet if you did a poll of this particular subject more people would want it to stay the same. My actual issue with it is more the statement as well because it implies that the St. George’s Cross is not unifying which is clearly absurd. Also you’re not wrong people who complain should not to buy it but they do. I don’t think I am out touch on these matters.
Nike are not mugs, mate.
I disagree, with the Mulvaney thing and how this has blown up in their faces they cannont be making more sales. I mean if you look at Disney and the what they have done with the MCU that tack to me dosent work. You only appease a very small minority who shout the loudest. Well we will see with this shirt and see what it does. The political messaging really is a middle/upper class thing and the shirts are now stupidly priced so you may see more middle class people buy it in relatitaion to the stick nike is getting and because its £120 they may make more money. Maybe thats the angle they are going for
Just like I wanted to go watch England Rugby this Autumn and the tickets are £150+ but that is Rugby customers. God knows than, I know the majority of footy fans wouldnt be on board with it though the flag change on the coller after Nikes statement.
I have to agree, the England flag should never, ever be altered, from the beautiful, perfect Red Cross on a white background. There is no acceptable reason for altering it.
What on earth do people think sometimes. Imagine if someone said, lets change the Forest tree to pink on all home shirts because its more unifying. Just imagine the furore youd get.
I stated that I agreed, but I still ‘missed the point’? Ok then.
Sorry I thought your posts were satiring people who were complaining against it
I read that wrong
Are you missing the point purposely? For starters that flag design by Peter Saville had the Red Cross and it was obviously just a design quirk. Most people aren’t arsed by actually messing around with design because you want to go with a different look. The problem has arisen because Nike felt the need to say that new design was there to unify people. That statement implies Nike felt the normal St. George’s Cross isn’t. Which is the offence really. Also people are quite rightly weary of political messaging by big companies. Nike also has previous with preaching so rightly people are questioning the sincerity of this direction. To be honest it does look like a flag that has political messaging but Nike have confirmed now it isn’t. However you must understand people sceptcism because of the previous. If as I said if they just said nothing I bet you this wouldn’t be a story because just like old England tops as you quite rightly pointed out it’s happened before. The difference is the climate though. Companies are forcing their values on consumers now so they have to tread very carefully when they doing this sort of thing. Nike haven’t done enough at all to alleviate that in the first place.
Where does this "unifying" come from in the way your making out is woke?
Originally when released they made the point of releasing the statement they have the cross a playful update to unify. Than they received the backlash and than they came out after and said the reason they did it was the commemorate the 66 training gear. If they had just said from the start people wouldn’t be as angered. It’s like they were testing the water to see what reaction they’d get. I don’t know why they just didn’t release the damn thing without silly statements. They must have known they were implying the normal St. George’s Cross wasn’t unifying. It makes me feel idiotic to go on about it but tye way Nike dealt with the sensitivity of it in a climate of companies constantly pushing an agenda was daft. It really didn’t need to blow up to what it has.
If you are a company that used a trans woman to flog woman’s sports bras. Than in that climate that is what consumers think of you. Do you blame people for thinking that Nike from that statement is saying they feel the original st George’s cross is crass and that it needs an update to unite people. Can you not see why this has blown up? Do you not think if they just didn’t say anything nobody would have said a thing and people just thought it’s a design decision. By the way I am sceptical of the England training gear line because the colours they’ve used don’t really match the training gear. However I will take them at face value. This just proves though how political messaging by companies is so bad and creates division where there not need be.
Its been changed on kits before and no one has battered an eyelid. So that isn’t the issue. The issue really is the motivation behind why you would change it. For example if they have changed it cause they think the flag is an “ist” in anyway I would be absolutely fecked off. If it’s a design choice so be it. I don’t rate the design but so be it.
Who said it did?
They also lose sales as well. In terms of outrage for example having a bloke basically cosplaying a woman trying to flog sports bras upset far more woman than “gammon”. So I don’t understand their thinking.
Noone has given a shit the previous umpteen times the flag has been used in different ways.
