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MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Can't begin to tell you how much I disagree with that.

Football is just about the closest thing I've ever had to a religion, it's something I'm passionate about. If I had to define who I'm a bigger fan of, Forest or England, it would be 50/50.

Nah.

I don't think England would barely register a whole digit on my ratio. I'll watch them but it's like watching Newcastle or Villa, I'm only watching it for the football not because I care.

England's drummer, sweet Caroline, people lobbing their beer in the air if England take the lead Vs Morocco, fans without tickets rushing into Wembley, the whole 'we are LGBT allies but we won't risk our captain getting a yellow card foe wearing a rainbow armband oh and also here's Jordan f***ing Henderson off to Saudi Arabia'.

Nah f*** England.

Put it another way, the emotion we felt at Wembley would eclipse England winning a world cup for almost all of us on here.
 

EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
Nah.

I don't think England would barely register a whole digit on my ratio. I'll watch them but it's like watching Newcastle or Villa, I'm only watching it for the football not because I care.

Put it another way, the emotion we felt at Wembley would eclipse England winning a world cup for almost all of us on here.
I disagree I wept liked a little baby when we got promoted. That was 20 years after doing nowt. If England won a World Cup I’d be a wreck. Both are beautiful to me
 

Omar Devone Little

Mr Realistic
I disagree I wept liked a little baby when we got promoted. That was 20 years after doing nowt. If England won a World Cup I’d be a wreck. Both are beautiful to me
I'd be the same if England or Forest won a competition. Obviously games like last night mean very little really and I didn't watch it, just as I don't bother with most of Forest's pre-season. But if England are in a tournament game I'm just as into it as I would be if Forest were playing.

I've never understood the club vs country thing as it's not a choice anybody has to make as they won't face each other. I support both equally.
 

Redemption

One less gobshite...
OMG I'm agreeing with Emmerson and Omar, I need a drink 😭
 

MaxiRobriguez

Bob McKinlay
Probably need a poll pols as perhaps naively I assumed 95% of us on here were club over country. That just seems normal, default position for me.
 

Redemption

One less gobshite...
Probably need a poll pols as perhaps naively I assumed 95% of us on here were club over country. That just seems normal, default position for me.
It might be an age thing, but I spent half of my childhood playing world cup footbal. England mattered as much as Forest. The only exception was 78 when McRedemption supported Scotland laden with Forest heroes.

Pre-kids, I did a lot of football and the England crack was great, with fans from all clubs including the non-leagues. As an adult, I think that bond is important to make a football family.

I wouldn't go to the 50/50 level but it's close. When we reached the Euro Final, all my boyhood dreams and desires were wrapped up in that day. But club over country seems a silly fantasy, sillier than me receiving a pass from Viv Anderson to score the winning goal against Germany in 1982.
 
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Ashley

Steve Chettle
I want England to win games, but my feeling 95% of the time is apathy.

I don't feel it is "unifying" either. Most of the people who crawl out of the woodwork when England play in a major tournament don't know anything about football, aren't interested in football, can't name half the squad and revert back to not caring about football (including England) after England are knocked out the tournament. They make armchair Sky Sports Six fans look reasonable and knowledgeable in comparison.

I've stopped going to the pub to watch England in recent years because frankly I can't stand most of the people that turn up. It's nothing like following Forest (or watching any other club side) whatsoever.

Probably an unpopular opinion and no doubt it'll upset some folk, but there you go.

I also agree with the points that MaxiRobriguez made, and also think that international football is mostly wank in general anyway.
 

EmmersonForest4

Steve Chettle
I want England to win games, but my feeling 95% of the time is apathy.

I don't feel it is "unifying" either. Most of the people who crawl out of the woodwork when England play in a major tournament don't know anything about football, aren't interested in football, can't name half the squad and revert back to not caring about football (including England) after England are knocked out the tournament. They make armchair Sky Sports Six fans look reasonable and knowledgeable in comparison.

I've stopped going to the pub to watch England in recent years because frankly I can't stand most of the people that turn up. It's nothing like following Forest (or watching any other club side) whatsoever.

Probably an unpopular opinion and no doubt it'll upset some folk, but there you go.

I also agree with the points that MaxiRobriguez made, and also think that international football is mostly wank in general anyway.
It does happen in club football though. I was in a pub in basford for the playoff final full of people there just for the craic not because they are fully fledged Forest fans. People want to be part of the good feel however I do accept it happens more in international footy and I agree it’s annoying.
 

Ashley

Steve Chettle
It does happen in club football though. I was in a pub in basford for the playoff final full of people there just for the craic not because they are fully fledged Forest fans. People want to be part of the good feel however I do accept it happens more in international footy and I agree it’s annoying.
Very rarely does it in club football though. Its every tournament with England. And that's before we get to all the people that turn up just to get pissed and be arseholes with no interest in the game whatsoever.

It's just a crap experience, I just watch at home nowadays. If I bother to tune in at all.
 

Barry

Where's me hammer?
I want England to win games, but my feeling 95% of the time is apathy.

I don't feel it is "unifying" either. Most of the people who crawl out of the woodwork when England play in a major tournament don't know anything about football, aren't interested in football, can't name half the squad and revert back to not caring about football (including England) after England are knocked out the tournament. They make armchair Sky Sports Six fans look reasonable and knowledgeable in comparison.

I've stopped going to the pub to watch England in recent years because frankly I can't stand most of the people that turn up. It's nothing like following Forest (or watching any other club side) whatsoever.

Probably an unpopular opinion and no doubt it'll upset some folk, but there you go.

I also agree with the points that MaxiRobriguez made, and also think that international football is mostly wank in general anyway.
The world Cup isn't even the premier football competition anymore

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DanR

Steve Chettle
Southgate will be loving this resolute defensive display from England against the football powerhouse that is Macedonia
We're only playing North Macedonia, it's so boring the southern half sacked it off and went to the pub instead.
 
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