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    Firstly, what a term. I absolutely fucking love everything about it.

    But secondly, I thought it worthy of it's own debate. Is there a generation divide? Has Sky Sports & virtuality influenced the game so much that there's a lack of soul to the game?

    Is this all part of bigger picture, where fast food replaces real food, cheap tinder sex replaces dating & love, and society declines into a greed soured oblivion?




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    It’s part of the masterplan to subdue dissent and sedition by providing cheap, unhealthy food and, through the medium of television, sporting contests to promote tribalism and distract the masses from what the government is actually doing.

    „I believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialism“

    „Don't forget you're alive. 'Cause sometimes when you walk around the city and you're in a bad mood, you can think, hey, wait a minute, we're alive! We don't know what the next second will bring and what a fantastic thing this is. This can get easily forgotten in the routine of life, and that's something I'm trying to bring to my attention at all times. Don't forget you're alive. We're not dead, you know. This is the greatest thing.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post
    Firstly, what a term. I absolutely fucking love everything about it.

    But secondly, I thought it worthy of it's own debate. Is there a generation divide? Has Sky Sports & virtuality influenced the game so much that there's a lack of soul to the game?

    Is this all part of bigger picture, where fast food replaces real food, cheap tinder sex replaces dating & love, and society declines into a greed soured oblivion?

    I take it that you didn't watch the John Carpenter documentary, "They Live," last night on the Horror Channel. :-)


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    Quote Originally Posted by I'm Red Till Dead View Post
    I take it that you didn't watch the John Carpenter documentary, "They Live," last night on the Horror Channel. :-)
    I was all out if Bubblegum

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    If you tolerate Sky Sports Manics your children will be next


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post
    Is this all part of bigger picture, where fast food replaces real food, cheap tinder sex replaces dating & love, and society declines into a greed soured oblivion?

    You clearly never had faceparty or bebo

    Cheap sex and greed has been around since time began. The greed has infiltrated football more and more though, definitely. Look at how many corrupt FIFA/UEFA officials keep being unearthed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    It’s part of the masterplan to subdue dissent and sedition by providing cheap, unhealthy food and, through the medium of television, sporting contests to promote tribalism and distract the masses from what the government is actually doing.
    Its funny isn't it that the country is going to shit hand in hand with the inexorable rise of Sky and other subscription services. When all of these services start they look like a godsend for Joe Public, cheap access to a plethora of sporting competitions although many of them were already free on terrestrial television covered by the price of your licence fee.

    What exactly have Sky and their ilk actually changed?

    Whether its football, cricket, tennis or whatever there's still a winner and loser, the actual sporting process and outcome hasn't changed much in decades, but if you believe the PR bullshit, these competitions have only been invented in the last 25 years. Theres so much sport on TV now there isn't actually time to watch it all, before you even consider the 24 hour news service, wall to wall films with the odd thought provoking documentary thrown in for good measure.

    Life hasn't improved because of it, if anything its got worse, paying through the nose to listen to unintelligible "pundits" giving their gut feeling thoughts on all manner of things that we didn't need to worry about 30 years ago, while forgetting that they know fuck all about the lives of the punter they claim to be talking to, having led a molly-coddled life where everything is done for them or can be bought at a price. Just like the majority of politicians the average pundit isn't going to know the price of a pint of milk, but I bet the ***** know exactly how much "moolah" they are raking in from this subscription model.

    Everything has been commoditised, there's a cost factor involved, players in all sports have an agent, a PR representative, a book deal coming along, anything to extract the last penny out of their adoring fans back pocket while all the time being lauded for making it onto the gravy train.

    Where is this tribalism that you talk about?

    I don't see it, unless you mean the haves and have nots, those that can afford £100+ a month and those who can't. It's now seen to be an "outlier" to not have the broadband/TV/phone package that marks you out as a functioning member of society, paying your way to extravagantly consume everything that is put in front of you, yet you still want more, turning us into a nation of self absorbed, gluttonous, obese wankers who think we are living the life as we watch some shite American crime series that everyone is raving about, when in fact life is passing us by quicker than we can ever imagine.

    It's all fucking shite, bought by people too thick to realise they aren't individuals all pitched together, but just the same as everyone else. Your shit tattoos and wank beard don't make you look "far out" just sad and desperate for attention that no-one was ever going to give you, so why are you trying so hard to fit in, when really you want to push back against the system, but you won't until someone else does it first.

    Fuck Sky, fuck BT, Netflix, Amazon, Facebook et al. They don't give a shit in the end apart from how much they can clean you out for every month and like a herd of lemmings you let them do it.

    And breathe


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    Sky didnt break football the bosman ruling did

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Sky didnt break football the bosman ruling did

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    Anyway, my rant wasn't just aimed at Sky, but the whole shite that surrounds broadcasting these days, the constant promotion of gambling, alcohol, claims culture, getting pissed, spending money you don't have, then getting someone else to pay for it.

    It's utter bollocks.

    All of it!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Its funny isn't it that the country is going to shit hand in hand with the inexorable rise of Sky and other subscription services. When all of these services start they look like a godsend for Joe Public, cheap access to a plethora of sporting competitions although many of them were already free on terrestrial television covered by the price of your licence fee.

    What exactly have Sky and their ilk actually changed?

    Whether its football, cricket, tennis or whatever there's still a winner and loser, the actual sporting process and outcome hasn't changed much in decades, but if you believe the PR bullshit, these competitions have only been invented in the last 25 years. Theres so much sport on TV now there isn't actually time to watch it all, before you even consider the 24 hour news service, wall to wall films with the odd thought provoking documentary thrown in for good measure.

    Life hasn't improved because of it, if anything its got worse, paying through the nose to listen to unintelligible "pundits" giving their gut feeling thoughts on all manner of things that we didn't need to worry about 30 years ago, while forgetting that they know fuck all about the lives of the punter they claim to be talking to, having led a molly-coddled life where everything is done for them or can be bought at a price. Just like the majority of politicians the average pundit isn't going to know the price of a pint of milk, but I bet the ***** know exactly how much "moolah" they are raking in from this subscription model.

    Everything has been commoditised, there's a cost factor involved, players in all sports have an agent, a PR representative, a book deal coming along, anything to extract the last penny out of their adoring fans back pocket while all the time being lauded for making it onto the gravy train.

    Where is this tribalism that you talk about?

    I don't see it, unless you mean the haves and have nots, those that can afford £100+ a month and those who can't. It's now seen to be an "outlier" to not have the broadband/TV/phone package that marks you out as a functioning member of society, paying your way to extravagantly consume everything that is put in front of you, yet you still want more, turning us into a nation of self absorbed, gluttonous, obese wankers who think we are living the life as we watch some shite American crime series that everyone is raving about, when in fact life is passing us by quicker than we can ever imagine.

    It's all fucking shite, bought by people too thick to realise they aren't individuals all pitched together, but just the same as everyone else. Your shit tattoos and wank beard don't make you look "far out" just sad and desperate for attention that no-one was ever going to give you, so why are you trying so hard to fit in, when really you want to push back against the system, but you won't until someone else does it first.

    Fuck Sky, fuck BT, Netflix, Amazon, Facebook et al. They don't give a shit in the end apart from how much they can clean you out for every month and like a herd of lemmings you let them do it.

    And breathe


    Don't forget the NHS. Pay your taxes to a service which unecc destroys the body's naturally strong ecosystem, end up with a diseaes or tumour etc. created by said treatments, then spend more money on medication managing those conditions and hail the NHS as heroes for doing so

    Few see it Keith. It's "They Live" all over.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post


    Don't forget the NHS. Pay your taxes to a service which unecc destroys the body's naturally strong ecosystem, end up with a diseaes or tumour etc. created by said treatments, then spend more money on medication managing those conditions and hail the NHS as heroes for doing so

    Few see it Keith. It's "They Live" all over.
    The NHS makes people smoke, eat unhealthily, drink alcohol and snort lines?


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    This thread escalated quickly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    This thread escalated quickly.
    It’s the LTLF way!


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    I just think it's a crap attempt at an insult for when you're out of arguments and have nothing credible to say, similar to snowflake or gammon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tobias View Post
    The NHS makes people smoke, eat unhealthily, drink alcohol and snort lines?
    You've met my wife, I take it?

    Sounds like her regular lifestyle as a junior doctor

    The problem with the NHS though is that they try to fix to many of societies problems with pills, to the point now where unless Joe Public rattles like a tube of Smarties they don't think they can get better.

    We're sleepwalking into an epidemic of addiction to prescription drugs, most of which are doled out to an unsuspecting public who are unable to make decent decisions for themselves, then rely upon GP's "helping" them with drugs that in many instances they don't need.

    The answer to everything seems to be "take more drugs", but that's ok, these ones have been legally prescribed by your lovely friendly doctor, doing it for the benefit of you, while they get kickbacks from the drugs firms pushing their products.

    So, on one side we have folk eating, drinking, smoking and taking drugs, while on the other we have the NHS saying most things can be fixed by a combination of ever more drugs.

    Who's right, who's wrong?

    I think what Alf is getting at is there are a load of ways to deal with the ills of society, not all of them requiring a prescription of pills for life. Wellbeing starts in the mind, requires a modicum of exercise, a smattering of spiritualness and a large dollop of self awareness. You don't find that in a packet of Tramadol.

    It's a cop out by the NHS, the easy way out, just a few more pills, when a bit more love, community cohesion and thinking outside of the box has been proven to work wonders for huge numbers of people.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    I just think it's a crap attempt at an insult for when you're out of arguments and have nothing credible to say, similar to snowflake or gammon.
    What is?

    Are you joining the conversation or just chucking out aspersions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    What is?
    Calling someone a Sky Sports Maniac or Zombie. At least that's how it seems to be used on here.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    Calling someone a Sky Sports Maniac or Zombie. At least that's how it seems to be used on here.
    Ah!!

    Is that what it's about.

    Fuck me

    Could have saved me a rant or two there


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    You've met my wife, I take it?

    Sounds like her regular lifestyle as a junior doctor

    The problem with the NHS though is that they try to fix to many of societies problems with pills, to the point now where unless Joe Public rattles like a tube of Smarties they don't think they can get better.

    We're sleepwalking into an epidemic of addiction to prescription drugs, most of which are doled out to an unsuspecting public who are unable to make decent decisions for themselves, then rely upon GP's "helping" them with drugs that in many instances they don't need.

    The answer to everything seems to be "take more drugs", but that's ok, these ones have been legally prescribed by your lovely friendly doctor, doing it for the benefit of you, while they get kickbacks from the drugs firms pushing their products.

    So, on one side we have folk eating, drinking, smoking and taking drugs, while on the other we have the NHS saying most things can be fixed by a combination of ever more drugs.

    Who's right, who's wrong?

    I think what Alf is getting at is there are a load of ways to deal with the ills of society, not all of them requiring a prescription of pills for life. Wellbeing starts in the mind, requires a modicum of exercise, a smattering of spiritualness and a large dollop of self awareness. You don't find that in a packet of Tramadol.

    It's a cop out by the NHS, the easy way out, just a few more pills, when a bit more love, community cohesion and thinking outside of the box has been proven to work wonders for huge numbers of people.
    There’s a lot of money in selling drugs to people, legal and illegal.

    I agree with the main point. Many suffer from Hyper Sitting Syndrome and Obesity related problems, to which the answer isn’t more drugs but a change in lifestyle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Ah!!

    Is that what it's about.

    Fuck me

    Could have saved me a rant or two there
    Your rants aren't wrong especially the one about everything being solved with pills I strongly agree with that.

    I just don't think the originator of the term on here had anything as deep in mind.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    It’s the LTLF way!
    It's another quiet day at the WFCG.

    Might as well lob out a few metaphorical hand grenades, see if owt comes of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Heffing Psycho! View Post
    Your rants aren't wrong especially the one about everything being solved with pills I strongly agree with that.

    I just don't think the originator of the term on here had anything as deep in mind.
    With hindsight neither do I

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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Its funny isn't it that the country is going to shit hand in hand with the inexorable rise of Sky and other subscription services. When all of these services start they look like a godsend for Joe Public, cheap access to a plethora of sporting competitions although many of them were already free on terrestrial television covered by the price of your licence fee.

    What exactly have Sky and their ilk actually changed?

    Whether its football, cricket, tennis or whatever there's still a winner and loser, the actual sporting process and outcome hasn't changed much in decades, but if you believe the PR bullshit, these competitions have only been invented in the last 25 years. Theres so much sport on TV now there isn't actually time to watch it all, before you even consider the 24 hour news service, wall to wall films with the odd thought provoking documentary thrown in for good measure.

    Life hasn't improved because of it, if anything its got worse, paying through the nose to listen to unintelligible "pundits" giving their gut feeling thoughts on all manner of things that we didn't need to worry about 30 years ago, while forgetting that they know fuck all about the lives of the punter they claim to be talking to, having led a molly-coddled life where everything is done for them or can be bought at a price. Just like the majority of politicians the average pundit isn't going to know the price of a pint of milk, but I bet the ***** know exactly how much "moolah" they are raking in from this subscription model.

    Everything has been commoditised, there's a cost factor involved, players in all sports have an agent, a PR representative, a book deal coming along, anything to extract the last penny out of their adoring fans back pocket while all the time being lauded for making it onto the gravy train.

    Where is this tribalism that you talk about?

    I don't see it, unless you mean the haves and have nots, those that can afford £100+ a month and those who can't. It's now seen to be an "outlier" to not have the broadband/TV/phone package that marks you out as a functioning member of society, paying your way to extravagantly consume everything that is put in front of you, yet you still want more, turning us into a nation of self absorbed, gluttonous, obese wankers who think we are living the life as we watch some shite American crime series that everyone is raving about, when in fact life is passing us by quicker than we can ever imagine.

    It's all fucking shite, bought by people too thick to realise they aren't individuals all pitched together, but just the same as everyone else. Your shit tattoos and wank beard don't make you look "far out" just sad and desperate for attention that no-one was ever going to give you, so why are you trying so hard to fit in, when really you want to push back against the system, but you won't until someone else does it first.

    Fuck Sky, fuck BT, Netflix, Amazon, Facebook et al. They don't give a shit in the end apart from how much they can clean you out for every month and like a herd of lemmings you let them do it.

    And breathe
    I’m in complete agreement with this post by Keef


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Its funny isn't it that the country is going to shit hand in hand with the inexorable rise of Sky and other subscription services. When all of these services start they look like a godsend for Joe Public, cheap access to a plethora of sporting competitions although many of them were already free on terrestrial television covered by the price of your licence fee.

    What exactly have Sky and their ilk actually changed?

    .........

    And breathe
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