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    Default RIP Andrew Weatherall

    Proper gutted. A true musical pioneer.

    Set the pace from the outset and continued to do so up to the end.


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    Default Re: RIP Andrew Weatherall

    No love for the Guv'nor(?)

    The bloke was a Titan whose influence on British culture over the past thirty odd years runs deep.


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    Default Re: RIP Andrew Weatherall

    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo View Post
    No love for the Guv'nor(?)
    Legend. Missed the thread, and news of his passing.

    Need to go listen to some Sabres of Paradise now.

    Last edited by congo_red; 18-02-20 at 12:33.

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    Default Re: RIP Andrew Weatherall

    Drugs involved? I might be being very unfair but that’s always my first thought.

    Oh FFS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonalair View Post
    Drugs involved? I might be being very unfair but that’s always my first thought.
    Depends how far back you wanna go. Pulmonary embolism recorded as cause.

    Like all who dabbled in 'chemistry' over the years, you wonder when you might pay the bill. But, I also feel that to label anyone's passing as simply 'drugs' can cheapen their life, and death, in some way.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fitzcarraldo View Post
    Depends how far back you wanna go. Pulmonary embolism recorded as cause.

    Like all who dabbled in 'chemistry' over the years, you wonder when you might pay the bill. But, I also feel that to label anyone's passing as simply 'drugs' can cheapen their life, and death, in some way.
    Yep, was trying not to cast aspersions. But dabbling as a yoof and being in and around the industry for all those years are two things. You’d have to have steel will to resist it. I’ve got a pal in his 50s still at it, has epilepsy from it now, still not stopping.


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    Default Re: RIP Andrew Weatherall

    It shows my ignorance when I say that I'd never heard of the bloke until Newsnight featured an obituary piece about him last night (very slightly in my defence, I am from an older generation), whereby he came across as someone with integrity, humility and a self-deprecating sense of humour.


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    Default Re: RIP Andrew Weatherall

    Quote Originally Posted by Otis Redd'un View Post
    It shows my ignorance when I say that I'd never heard of the bloke until Newsnight featured an obituary piece about him last night (very slightly in my defence, I am from an older generation), whereby he came across as someone with integrity, humility and a self-deprecating sense of humour.
    I wouldn't say it was ignorant at all. Whilst he was a big name for those on the scene, he never really crossed over into the realm of celebrity, although much music that he had a hand in did, even if people didn't know it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis Redd'un View Post
    It shows my ignorance when I say that I'd never heard of the bloke until Newsnight featured an obituary piece about him last night (very slightly in my defence, I am from an older generation), whereby he came across as someone with integrity, humility and a self-deprecating sense of humour.
    Each generation has their own beacons and weatherbells. AW was a beacon for my generation. You'd probably never heard of him because of his principles (famously shunned the accolades bestowed upon him) and because he never stood in one place long enough to capture the attention in the ways others from that time did - most haven't moved on from that place!

    First time I heard him was the summer of 1988 when the early rave scene was starting to hit the mainstream, and right away you could sense you were in the presence of someone a bit special. As a pioneer of that scene AW had the credibility to have cleaned up but instead chose to retreat and create his own alternate path. Tis true he became the go-to-guy for any band desperate to capture the sound of clubs at that time and cash in on the new phenomena but it is obvious he did this because he could and not for the riches to follow - he got £500 quid for transforming 'loaded' for the Scream which is a fucking liberty when you consider that the whole 'screamadelica' album is at least 80% AW.

    He never lost his roots. While he was doing middling bands a big favour remixing and producing their stuff to get them heard on dancefloors up and down the country, he was also quietly revolutionising the scene he'd helped create. His Boy's Own adventures were, for me, the defining moments of that time. From 89/90 to 94' he had a hand in creating sounds that later spawned whole new genres. You only have to check his collaborations at that time to see his influence here; from techno to trip-hop his hand was written large across most of it.

    It's often the influencer's that are forgotten as someone else picks it up and runs with what you have created. I suppose that's the curse of the influencer; as it hits the mainstream (££££) you are already on to the next project.

    I was still going to see this fella up to last year with his 'A Love From Outer Space' nights and the various festivals he held. Plus, I collect any music that has his mark on it.


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    For anyone who’s not really understanding his influence, the Guardian has published a cracking list of ten tracks that have Andrew Weatherall‘s fingerprints all over them, and it would make a banging playlist:

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...e_iOSApp_Other

    „I believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialism“

    — Joe Strummer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    For anyone who’s not really understanding his influence, the Guardian has published a cracking list of ten tracks that have Andrew Weatherall‘s fingerprints all over them, and it would make a banging playlist:

    https://www.theguardian.com/music/20...e_iOSApp_Other
    That remix of MBV blew minds. First time I heard it he dropped it at the end of a 'flying' all-dayer at the Greyhound. Nearly emptied me of all bodily fluids. That and the three 'mollies'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by congo_red View Post
    I wouldn't say it was ignorant at all. Whilst he was a big name for those on the scene, he never really crossed over into the realm of celebrity, although much music that he had a hand in did, even if people didn't know it.
    As the eighties wore on CR, current music and new artists of the of the time gradually had less-and-less impact on me, which would explain why this fella and his work passed me by.


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    Listened to Radio X on the way home tonight and they had a Special piece on him, I can honestly say I’d never heard of him but wow what an influence he had on Music, they played Loaded in full which is one of my faves and I never realised he was behind the Success of it. Genius indeed.


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    Default Re: RIP Andrew Weatherall

    It's mental to think of the British musical landscape without Screamadelica. It changed everything.


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    I love people like this, 3 who I have known in my life where I never knew their achievements were:
    Brian Selby of Selectadisc and The Garage fame.
    Chick Zamick, the first Canadian to play professional ice hockey in the UK and is often recognised as the man who popularised the sport over here.
    Charlie Elliot, professional cricketer, test umpire and on the roof of Coventry Cathedral working as a fireman as it burned during the blitz.
    3 of the nicest, most unassuming people I have met.


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    Default Re: RIP Andrew Weatherall

    I'm a bit of a folky and I loved this, very clever mix of acoustic and electonic that doesn't sound contrived at all, just great music that fits the songs.






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    Default Re: RIP Andrew Weatherall

    Quote Originally Posted by Buckaroo View Post
    I'm a bit of a folky and I loved this, very clever mix of acoustic and electonic that doesn't sound contrived at all, just great music that fits the songs.



    Beth Orton is underrated imo.

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    Default Re: RIP Andrew Weatherall

    Obit in the Times (the newspaper of record) no less. Warranted though.


 

 

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