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  1. #251
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    Who do we think her supporters votes will go to?
    Probably fit better in the Nandy camp, but it's a toss up really between RLB and Starmer, and I suspect they'll go for the latter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    Who do we think her supporters votes will go to?
    Erm...The Lib Dems?


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    Thornberry has had a good few days. More than a few of the Phillips refugees will fall to her, and the signs are that she will get enough CLPs to make the final ballot, particularly now that the GMB is endorsing Nandy. Ignore the bookies: they (and their punters) don't understand the process. She's right back in it.


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    Nandy, yes. Thornberry, please, please NO.


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    All this leadership contest is telling me is what an absolute dearth of statespersonlike talent there is in the Labour Party

    And as a staunch Labour voter that saddens me greatly


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde View Post
    All this leadership contest is telling me is what an absolute dearth of statespersonlike talent there is in the Labour Party

    And as a staunch Labour voter that saddens me greatly
    I'd argue that you could make the same accusation against the Tories.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Blonde View Post
    All this leadership contest is telling me is what an absolute dearth of statespersonlike talent there is in the Labour Party

    And as a staunch Labour voter that saddens me greatly
    People have said this about every single party leader election that I've ever seen.

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    What does 'statespersonlike' even mean anymore? Is it really relevant in 2020?


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    Quote Originally Posted by congo_red View Post
    What does 'statespersonlike' even mean anymore? Is it really relevant in 2020?
    A very good point Congo.

    If you measure statesmanship as it used to be known, then maybe it is no long relevant?

    Broadly speaking it used to mean someone, normally a stoic white male over 30, who had received a private education, been to Oxbridge or Harvard and was well connected with, and well groomed by, the upper echelons of the Civil Service.

    However since the 1960s there have been notable exceptions of people who had a non-traditional form of statesmanship. Wilson, Thatcher, Reagan, Merkel & Obama.

    Would you call JFK and Blair populist or statesmanlike. To me they were a bit of both.

    It is not an easy concept to define even though everyone thinks they can recognise it when they see it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    A very good point Congo.

    If you measure statesmanship as it used to be known, then maybe it is no long relevant?

    Broadly speaking it used to mean someone, normally a stoic white male over 30, who had received a private education, been to Oxbridge or Harvard and was well connected with, and well groomed by, the upper echelons of the Civil Service.

    However since the 1960s there have been notable exceptions of people who had a non-traditional form of statesmanship. Wilson, Thatcher, Reagan, Merkel & Obama.

    Would you call JFK and Blair populist or statesmanlike. To me they were a bit of both.

    It is not an easy concept to define even though everyone thinks they can recognise it when they see it.
    I’d call it not being a scruffy cnut in an anorak


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    It appears that Long-Bailey had recently broken leadership-contest rules by accessing party data to obtain members' details in order to canvas support. Her punishment? None. Instead, the Corbynite party executive has conveniently changed the said rule, thus preventing her from being thrown out of the contest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis Redd'un View Post
    It appears that Long-Bailey had recently broken leadership-contest rules by accessing party data to obtain members' details in order to canvas support. Her punishment? None. Instead, the Corbynite party executive has conveniently changed the said rule, thus preventing her from being thrown out of the contest.
    I received the email about this.

    All other contestants have been informed they are permitted to do the same thing from what I gather?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mouldynffc View Post
    I received the email about this.

    All other contestants have been informed they are permitted to do the same thing from what I gather?

    So that's fine then, break the rules and instead of punishment, let everyone else do the same. Utter shambles.


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    Indeed. I wonder how Labour HQ would have responded had one of Long-Bailey's rivals been caught breaking this rule?


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    I have just contacted the concierge to send RLB oiled and sent to my suite.


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    A draw against Brencelona would be great


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    Not sure I'd risk Grabban for this one

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    Can I talk about lights?


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    Deutschland ist die beste.

    „I believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialism“

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    Who? Danny Sonner?


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    Considering joining the party just to vote against Long-Bailey.

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    What position does Long bailey play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    What position does Long bailey play?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Zeus View Post
    Considering joining the party just to vote against Long-Bailey.

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    How much is it? £25? 1 vote won't make a difference. I'd be more tempted to just whack it on her to win the contest. If she wins then you at least pocket a bit of money to sweeten the blow.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GOBIAS View Post
    How much is it? £25? 1 vote won't make a difference. I'd be more tempted to just whack it on her to win the contest. If she wins then you at least pocket a bit of money to sweeten the blow.
    Yeah fuck that I almost have enough to buy a couple of pints with that.

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