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    Absolutely, it's why the murder thing seems odd. Personally, I expect this case is "proof we dont do cover ups" but I dont think anyone would find them guilty if in the jury, obviously we dont know all the circumstances though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehockleyhustler View Post
    So just been reading up on the definition.

    "Manslaughter*is defined*in the UK*as*murder*without premeditation"

    So the charge suggests the officer planned to kill him? Ridiculous

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    There are 2 types

    Voluntary and involuntary, essentially involuntary is accidentally killing someone and voluntary is usually when someone has been killed but the "offender" was provoked

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    There are 2 types

    Voluntary and involuntary, essentially involuntary is accidentally killing someone and voluntary is usually when someone has been killed but the "offender" was provoked

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    So what's Manslaughter then?

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    Hasn’t the charge been lowered now?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GOBIAS View Post
    Hasn’t the charge been lowered now?
    It certainly seems it wasn’t in this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehockleyhustler View Post
    So what's Manslaughter then?

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    Sorry that 2 types of manslaughter.

    Involuntary manslaughter is the "Normal" one and which you described, the "voluntary" manslaughter is essentially murder with an excuse often used for victims of DV who essentially snap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    Sorry that 2 types of manslaughter.

    Involuntary manslaughter is the "Normal" one and which you described, the "voluntary" manslaughter is essentially murder with an excuse often used for victims of DV who essentially snap.

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    The „involuntary“ one would be like the recent case in America were one guy murdered another in an argument over a chicken sandwich then!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    The „involuntary“ one would be like the recent case in America were one guy murdered another in an argument over a chicken sandwich then!
    Without full details hard to say, often used in cases where people have had a fight and someone has died (one punch kill), the "offender" never meant to kill them but unfortunately they did.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    Without full details hard to say, often used in cases where people have had a fight and someone has died (one punch kill), the "offender" never meant to kill them but unfortunately they did.


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    Only in America....

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    Stabbed in the parking lot? That sounds a bit nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    It certainly seems it wasn’t in this case.
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