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    Default To chant or not to chant?

    ....that is the question.

    I saw this on a Facebook group and thought it might open up an interesting debate on how times have changed and how modern day values have crossed over into football stadiums.



    As women and children are increasing in numbers on match day is this kind of thing ‘offensive’ or ‘degrading’ or are certain individuals becoming ‘snowflakes’ and jumping on the minority bandwagon?

    I’ve also noticed a few new chants being sung on match days which is great news although the lyrics sometimes appear muddled.

    Can we please post them here so we can all join in?

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    Oh Nottingham is full of fun, Oh Nottingham is full of fun.
    It has a ratio of five women to one man
    Oh Nottingham is full of fun.

    Doesnt have the same ring to it. The songs an institution, relatively harmeless & gets trotted out once a game.

    Think this smacks of "everythings going great, lets find something daft to moan about".

    SNOWFLAKES.


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    I agree, I think it sounds shit anyway.

    I tend to say Forest 3 times.


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    Keeper gets the ball,
    Throws it to the right back
    Down the line to the winger
    And pops it in the box
    Striker heads the ball
    In to the net
    It’s now 1-0 and we’re all happy
    Footballs scored a goal!
    Ooooo... keeper gets the ball


    Maybe just sing stuff like that.

    You’re not going to sanitise away crowds. Home games just sit in family area or BC stand , but if you don’t like away crowds ... don’t go. I don’t. Not that hard really.


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    It was sort of funny when I first heard it about 30 years ago. Now it’s just a bit pathetic.


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    When Nottingham stops being full of tits fanny and Forest the song will stop being sung


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    Football chants have always been an extension of the „abuse“ levelled at opposing fans though?

    And the (originally) working class nature of the game brought about many of those chants, which some find offensive.

    Whether it’s claims of your City/Town being better (like „Oh Nottingham is full of fun“) or the borderline abusive efforts towards the opposing teams‘ supporters.

    Forest (amongst many other clubs) have previously had Police warnings about homophobic chants, and there’s several clubs who’ve been warned about racist chanting (including Forest in the past, particularly against Leicester).

    Where the line is drawn is the difficult one though - the „Oh Nottingham is full of fun“ chant is frankly about as offensive as The Benny Hill Show, but then, political correctness put paid to Benny as well.

    Chants are part of the game. If folk don’t like the current ones, or are offended by them, then make some new ones!

    „You’re not going home in an ambulance! (Due to Conservative Government cuts to the NHS)“

    „You’ll never reach the Station! (Due to the congestion-charging Zone implemented recently)“

    „Town full of immigrants! You’re not a town full of immigrants! (thanks to Brexit!)“

    „I believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialism“

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    It's ours and I'll be singing the fucker as they drag me out the ground.
    I attend games with my wife and have taken my daughter since she was about 8 years old. Neither have a problem with the song because both are strong minded, confident women.
    There is a point where instead of trying to change everything in life to suit you, you should revert back to FIFO, Fit In or Fuck Off.


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    If football reaches that level of sanitisation then I'm off. I'd say to that woman if she feels she is possibly going to be offended wherever she goes then she should stay in the house.

    We've all grown up with this kind of daft chant and I'd be amazed if it's had any adverse effect on anyone or made them look at women differently. As a kid it made me chuckle and that was it.

    Football to some people is more than just watching the game and sitting on their hands for 90 mins in a sanitised environment.

    I'm sorry lady but fuck off.

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    The lady writing the complaint should bring her neice back in several years time when she's old enough for an aunty-neice threesome with me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post
    The lady writing the complaint should bring her neice back in several years time when she's old enough for an aunty-neice threesome with me.
    Cheers Alf, that's coffee sprayed all over the keyboard this morning

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    Strange that so many seem to be defending a chant that really isn't very good. Maybe it's past its sell-by date.
    When I read the thread title, I thought it was going to be about chanting in general. Saturday, 'Mull' was excellent as usual, then torpor set in.
    I'm in Upper Trent End and it's hard to get chants going, although there was a better effort than usual. Disappointingly, I thought there was little effort from A and B blocks, who could always be relied upon to make their presence felt.
    Nor from Lower Bridgford (nice flags, shame about the chanting).
    Away, we all make a decent noise. Perhaps we ought to make up/steal some new and longer chants and follow Lower Bridgford in their execution.


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    I mean it's madness as far as I'm concerned.

    Why would you be offended, as a woman, a man or someone who lives in Nottingham? It's not aimed at anyone, it's not abusive... I don't get how you can derive offence from it?

    May as well sit in silence for fear of upsetting someone, somewhere.

    I mean there are some songs out there that really could be deemed offensive and this is where they've chosen to make a topic of it? Christ almighty.


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    I suppose I'm an old reactionary, but I always think the best and funniest chants are topical, often seemingly thought up on the spur of the moment, which are both slanderous and certainly non-PC.

    And the old chants are known by most supporters so are one way of getting everyone involved. How often do we hear chants and turn to our neighbour to enquire what they are singing about?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mouldynffc View Post
    I mean it's madness as far as I'm concerned.

    Why would you be offended, as a woman, a man or someone who lives in Nottingham? It's not aimed at anyone, it's not abusive... I don't get how you can derive offence from it?

    May as well sit in silence for fear of upsetting someone, somewhere.

    I mean there are some songs out there that really could be deemed offensive and this is where they've chosen to make a topic of it? Christ almighty.
    It’s 2019 mate you can’t even breathe without someone being offended


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    It's not about defending what the chant itself it's about some pompus twat trying to sanitise the game and push their own virtue signalling agenda. There is a much bigger picture to what this leads to.

    I have children one is an 11 year old boy and the other a 9 year old girl. The rules for them are simple, "don't repeat what you hear at football" they have a chuckle as I did and that's it. I'm not remotely bothered by it and they hear worse in the playground.

    My children are brought up to be kind, helpful and caring, those are traits and values that have been tought and engrained over years and won't be derailed because of a few daft chants for 90 mins on a Saturday.

    One other major educational value I've ensured they are raised with is a sense of fucking humour. Part of the problem with todays kids is they are raised completely vanilla. If they can learn to laugh and the benefit of seeing the funny side to things it can't be underestimated the value that brings.

    God help this boring old grunts kids in that dour household.

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    Default Re: To chant or not to chant?

    We could change it to -

    Oh Derbyshire is full of cnuts
    Oh Derbyshire is full of cnuts,
    It's full of sheep shaggers and inbreds,
    Oh Derbyshire is full of cnuts.

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    Made me cringe for decades.

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    Default Re: To chant or not to chant?

    Maybe it’s no longer relevant, and it should be changed to

    “...is full of tits, fannies and snowflakes...”


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    I don't get why this song is the one to be singled out, we sing about wanting to murder Derby and Leics by burning them in a bonfire and that's ok but mention tits and fannies and all of a sudden we have an offensive song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    I don't get why this song is the one to be singled out, we sing about wanting to murder Derby and Leics by burning them in a bonfire and that's ok but mention tits and fannies and all of a sudden we have an offensive song.

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    Simple really, because that's the one she doesn't like. She's not bothered about the fact nobody else gives a shit and has a sense of humour.

    Probably had her feelings hurt when nobody sung get your tits out for the lads to her so now she's riding the virtue signalling train.

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    That chant's a busted flush, for sure


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    Default Re: To chant or not to chant?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez the Killer View Post
    We could change it to -

    Oh Derbyshire is full of cnuts
    Oh Derbyshire is full of cnuts,
    It's full of sheep shaggers and inbreds,
    Oh Derbyshire is full of cnuts.

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    I second this


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    Default Re: To chant or not to chant?

    VfB Stuttgart have loads of chants, most are really plain though:

    „Hey! Hey! Achtzehn hundert drei und neunzehn!“ (Hey, Hey, 1893!)

    „Los Gehts VfB!“ (let’s Go VfB!)

    „Vooooww effffff bayyyyyy!“ (repeated, alternately between both ends of the stadium)

    „Stuttgart!“ (clap clap clap) „Stuttgart!!“

    There’s an amusing one aimed at local rivals Karlsruhe SC, but it doesn’t translate very well; its more about them being a bit simple country folk.


 

 

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