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    Default Re: NFFC Bomb Squad: The 2019 Deluxe Edition

    Keeps:

    Saidy Janko or Tendayi Darikwa
    Jack Colback
    Matty Cash
    Tyler Walker


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    I wouldnít get rid of Cash. He is only 21, is already holding is own at Championship level, and has the potential to be a good player. A definite keep imo.
    We need a manager/coach that develops players, in which case we should keep Cash. And develop him in central midfield. With proper development, like getting him some studs, he could definitely be the sort of player we would longingly look at somewhere else in 12 months time.

    I agree with most of that list but we donít need wholesale changes on incomings. 2 fullbacks that can support going forwards are crucial for me - Byram fit would be perfect so Iíd be tempted to take a chance, maybe we can get some deal contingent on fitness. Those 2 fullbacks and we could have more wide attacking threat, it would help our wingers effectiveness etc and the whole team looks better. We could effectively switch to the diamond and still have width - you know, actually have some variation depending on opponents etc.

    We need a central midfielder, a bloody good one, even assuming we keep Colback. One that can pass and shoot that wouldnít just sit deep. That would give us pretty much a promotion first 11. The extra players, proper coaching and tactical flexibility and everyone plays and looks better.

    Next on the wish list is a right winger, with Appiah gaining minutes. Just as Cash then gets time in the centre but not first choice unless he really kicks on.

    Squad wise itís anither striker, we canít rely on Grabban to be fit and 100%, so he needs to be first team quality.

    It isnít wholesale changes thatís needed. Itís quality, targeted recruitment and the whole team looks better as a result. And it doesnít cost £30 million. If I was bored enough Iíd make a list of all the quality players in this division that didnít cost a lot. Just look at Norwichís team. It cost about the same as Grabban.

    We moan about keepers but itís a nice to have. We prioritise the other signings. Itís no coincidence Pants looked better when we got a solid defence in front of him for a few matches before it was inexplicably dismantled. Having better players around you and you play better.

    Jeez, it ainít rocket science. How do you get to be a DOF? Iíll do it, ffs.


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    Quote Originally Posted by CommonTree View Post

    We need a central midfielder, a bloody good one,. One that can pass and shoot that wouldn’t just sit deep.
    This, this and this again (not sure if that means 3 of them lol, but let's find one for now). We can't play like a Forest team should, or used to, with a pair of defensive midfielders who are better at kicking opponents than passing the ball. If we play 4-2-3-1 at least one of the midfielders needs to be a proper, constructive ball player and ideally make 3rd man runs, get involved with the attack etc too. If we play 4-4-2 (ok, we probably shouldn't, especially if trying to fit Carvalho in - we could go 4-1-3-2 perhaps though like it sort of was with Phillips/Bohinen) then both of them should have an element of that, just like McGovern/Gemmill, Webb/Hodge, Keane/Gemmill, Keane/Parker etc. Even Terry Wilson could play a bit of football. We need to get back to players who can do that in midfield I really think.


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    Default Re: NFFC Bomb Squad: The 2019 Deluxe Edition

    Id keep Cash, Darikwa & Walker.

    Rest can do one.


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    Really don't think our squad is as bad as some are making out. We're about 3-5 signings away from being a quality side, in my opinion. But that's assuming we keep the style that was developed under Warburton and Karanka.

    There will be a lot of movement with loans and contracts expiring, and a couple of the older ones retiring, but we don't need the complete overhaul that we did this time last year.

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    According to the official site the first team squad has 32 players (below).

    We've also got Worral, Smith, Grant and Walker out on loan. The other home grown youngsters are Cash, Benny, Yates, and Appiah - I'd take a long hard look at those 8 and decide which of them to keep as subs with the aim of getting them game time over the next season.

    The rest of the first team squad:

    Pants - get rid, his occassional inspired save is outweighed by his frequent fuck ups.
    Steele - get rid, not good enough.
    Henderson - get rid, he's totally crap.

    Figs - unsure - thought he was good but he's not performed well when he has played, probably move him on.
    Wague - not sure yet but I don't think he's that good.
    Milosevic - keep
    Robinson - keep
    Dawson - get rid - injury prone and too old and slow now.
    Janko - get rid.
    Byram - like to keep him.
    Darikwa - get rid, he's pretty dismal.
    Benalou - keep
    Hefele - get rid - injury prone and too old.

    Gueds - get rid, his best years are long gone.
    Colback - would like to keep him.
    Carvo - keep
    Watson - get rid.
    Osbourn - forest youth system as above
    Cash - forest youth system as above (I think we should keep him, I think his performances are due in large part to how the manager/s have been deploying him).
    Yacob - keep
    Bridcutt - sell
    Goncalves - get rid
    Yates - forest youth system as above
    Pele - get rid
    Lolley - wish we could keep him, doubt he'll be here next season.
    Ward - send to glue factory.

    Soudani - get rid
    Grabban - keep
    Ansarifard - get rid
    Murphy - put out to pasture
    Bonatini - get rid
    Apiah - forest youth system as above

    So discounting the youth players then if we're serious about building a squad that can go for promotion then theres only 9 first team players that I think we should definitely keep, and some of those are here on loan.


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    On the slim chance that anyone is interested in what I'd do, in an ideal world:

    I've just put sell as a catch-all for expiring contracts and receiving fees from other clubs.

    Pantillimon - Keep, perfectly good 'keeper for this level
    Steele - fine as a back-up, he would only be playing five odd cup games anyway.
    Smith - sell
    Henderson - sell

    Figueiredo - good player, keep
    Wague - I haven't seen enough of him, but he seems alright
    Milosevic - keep
    Dawson - I'd imagine he'll be retiring this summer
    Benalouane - same as Wague
    Hefele - sell
    Worrall - I'd probably keep him here next season, but he'd be fifth choice CB behind Milosevic, Benalouane, Wague and Figueiredo

    Robinson - keep, but needs to be played at LB with a license to go forward
    Janko - loan expires
    Byram - I'd be happy to give him another year loan
    Darikwa - I'd keep him. He was pretty good for the first half of the season

    Colback - definitely keep
    Carvalho - definitely keep
    Lolley - definitely keep
    Yacob - definitely keep
    Osborn - happy to keep as a useful utility player, but would sell if a decent offer came in
    Cash - keep
    Watson - sell
    Guedioura - sell
    Bridcutt - sell
    Goncalves - loan to expire
    Yates - loan him out
    Pele - loan to expire
    Ward - sell
    Grant- sell
    Appiah - loan out

    Grabban - definitely keep
    Soudani - haven't really seen enough of him, would keep if his fitness problems are resolved
    Ansarifard - probably sell, but not against seeing more of what he can do as a back-up
    Murphy - sell
    Bonatini - loan to expire
    Walker - loan out, though would be happy to have him as a squad player
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    That puts us at around 18 players, give or take one or two.

    Also highlights where we need to make our signings: a left back, a right back, two wingers and a striker. I wouldn't say no to a real quality CB too if one became available.

    That makes 23-25ish, so we'd probably have need couple of loans and academy players to up the numbers slightly.

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    Default NFFC Bomb Squad: The 2019 Deluxe Edition

    Pants - AS A NUMBER 2 OR HE CAN GO
    Steele -
    Henderson -
    Smith

    Worral
    Figs -
    Wague -
    Milosevic -
    Robinson -
    Dawson - HOOK UP WITH COACH COHEN
    Janko -
    Byram -
    Darikwa -
    Benalou -
    Hefele -

    Gueds -
    Colback
    Carvo -
    Watson -
    Osbourn -
    Cash -
    Yacob -
    Bridcutt -
    Goncalves -
    Yates - LOAN
    Pele -
    Lolley -
    Grant SEE WHAT HES LEARNT
    Ward -

    WalkerSEE WHAT HES LEARNT
    Soudani -
    Grabban -
    Ansarifard -
    Murphy -
    Bonatini -
    Apiah -
    Velios -
    Cummings -
    Clough - WOULD WANT ANOTHER LOOK


    That leaves us with a squad of 21 but fairly unbalanced. If you look at 2 in every position being the ultimate target then thereís still some room for adjustment. Maybe add in a few jack of all trade type players(Osborn being one already)

    Lots and lots of deadwood to burn through should keep the fire burning abit though.

    I think we would be in a good state of play if we had players like Osborn and Cash as fringe players rather than two nailed on first teamers as they have been give or take


    This thread makes me wanna play football manager again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forest ash View Post
    Pants - AS A NUMBER 2 OR HE CAN GO
    Steele -
    Henderson -
    Smith

    Worral
    Figs -
    Wague -
    Milosevic -
    Robinson -
    Dawson - HOOK UP WITH COACH COHEN
    Janko -
    Byram -
    Darikwa -
    Benalou -
    Hefele -

    Gueds -
    Colback
    Carvo -
    Watson -
    Osbourn -
    Cash -
    Yacob -
    Bridcutt -
    Goncalves -
    Yates - LOAN
    Pele -
    Lolley -
    Grant SEE WHAT HES LEARNT
    Ward -

    WalkerSEE WHAT HES LEARNT
    Soudani -
    Grabban -
    Ansarifard -
    Murphy -
    Bonatini -
    Apiah -


    That leaves us with a squad of 20 but fairly unbalanced. If you look at 2 in every position being the ultimate target then thereís still some room for adjustment. Maybe add in a few jack of all trade type players(Osborn being one already)

    Lots and lots of deadwood to burn through should keep the fire burning abit though.

    I think we would be in a good state of play if we had players like Osborn and Cash as fringe players rather than two nailed on first teamers as they have been give or take


    This thread makes me wanna play football manager again
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    Assuming all loans return and no contracts are renewed:


    GK

    Pants: Keep
    Steele: Keep
    Smith: Loan

    RB
    Darikwa: Keep
    Would give Byram another loan if he can play every minute for the rest of the season.

    LB
    Robinson: Keep

    CB
    Figueiredo: Keep
    Milosevic: Keep
    Benalouane: Keep
    Worrall: Keep
    Hefele: Gone
    Dawson: Gone (think he'll retire)

    Centre Mids
    Carvalho: Keep
    Yacob: Keep
    Guedioura: Keep
    Yates: Loan
    Watson: Gone
    Bridcutt: Gone
    Grant: Gone
    Tachtsidis: Gone
    Would try and sign Colback.


    Wide Mids

    Lolley: Keep
    Ward: Gone
    Ariyibi: Gone


    Attackers
    Grabban: Keep
    Appiah: Keep
    Keep two of Soudani, Ansarifard and Walker I'm not sure which, I'll say Walker because he'd be a backup on cheaper wage and Soudani because I think he looked useful before the injury.
    Murphy: Gone
    Vellios: Gone
    Clough: Gone
    Cummings: Gone

    Utility
    Cash: Keep
    Osborn: Keep

    Leaves me with 20 if we re-sign Byram and Colback. Would also look to sign a new LB, Guedioura 2.0, right footed Winger, Backup for Carvalho and Murphy 2.0. Plus a couple of loanees if need be to cover.

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    GK
    Pants - STAY - would prefer better but need to prioritise elsewhere
    Steele / Smith - one to STAY (as number 2) the other to GO
    Henderson - GO

    CB
    Milosevic - STAY
    Benalouane - STAY
    Worrall - STAY
    Figs - STAY as I think he's got a lot of quality, despite the injuries
    Dawson - STAY as a coach and occasional player if required
    Wague - GO
    Hefele - GO


    FB
    Robinson - STAY
    Byram / Darikwa - One to STAY the other to GO, I would keep Byram as he would be as good as any RB if fit so worth the risk
    Janko - GO

    MF
    Lolley - STAY
    Colback - STAY
    Carvo - STAY
    Yacob - STAY
    Osborn - STAY
    Cash - STAY
    Yates - STAY
    Grant - GO
    Ward - GO
    Pele - GO
    Bridcutt - GO
    Goncalves - GO
    Watson - GO
    Gueds - GO
    Tachtsidis - GO
    Clough - GO


    FW
    Grabban - STAY
    Soudani - STAY as he's a real impact player when fit and needs longer to show if he can hack it in this league
    Appiah - STAY
    Walker - STAY for one more season to see if he can cut it here, if not he goes next year
    Murphy - GO as we need a quality second option
    Bonatini - GO
    Ansarifard - GO
    Vellios - GO
    Cummings - GO


    Priorities to be a full back for either side, wide man to play opposite Lolley and another quality striking option.

    Home grown players such as Worrall, Osborn, Cash, Appiah and Walker to provide the squad depth below. They have a passion for the club that is crucial in the squad and they don't cost a fortune.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanRoy22 View Post
    Sean OíDriscoll too. I mean, you could liken that brief spell in charge to what Sheffield United are doing.

    Billy Sharp up front, trying to play football the right way to get results, and generally not being too far away.

    But of course, Dan Harding and Danny Collins and Simon Gillet werenít good enough? Come on guys, itís not just about upgrading players and you automatically get better. Itís more about the managerís style of play and ability to man manage.
    Fillet gets harsh treatment he was doing OK till SOD got fired, the other 2 well they were better than the other defenders we had. The fact SOD managed to get us 7th with 4 weeks preseason and no defence is a miracle and puts him as one of the best managers we've had in decades.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    Fillet gets harsh treatment he was doing OK till
    Made too many misteaks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MASE View Post
    Made too many misteaks.
    They certainly werenít rare.

    ĄI believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialismď

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    Really depends on who the manager is, donít it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MASE View Post
    Made too many misteaks.
    Always thought he was a cut above.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    Fillet gets harsh treatment
    Whichever way you slice it he was crap


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    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey View Post
    Whichever way you slice it he was crap
    You can steak your life on it.

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    Before we buy anyone we need to know the style our mgr wants to implement,and I hope the board are putting a case for a passing pressing team ethos.
    Personally without knowing the content of player contracts I would hazard a guess that the amount of players we don't want would bankrupt the club by offloading without fees involved.
    We would end up paying millions in loyalty bonuses alone if we are unable to find mugs able to take them off our hands.
    It could be a very expensive summer just to take another backward step.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MASE View Post
    Made too many misteaks.


    Damn auto correct on the phone!


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    I'd sign Colback permanently, and keep Cash and Walker. I'd shaft the rest.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Baxter View Post
    Before we buy anyone we need to know the style our mgr wants to implement,and I hope the board are putting a case for a passing pressing team ethos.
    Personally without knowing the content of player contracts I would hazard a guess that the amount of players we don't want would bankrupt the club by offloading without fees involved.
    We would end up paying millions in loyalty bonuses alone if we are unable to find mugs able to take them off our hands.
    It could be a very expensive summer just to take another backward step.
    I think we found homes for quite a few when karanka first came in and also managers to get some off the books this past summer


    Ideally Iíd only like to see loans going out from young developing players. Any senior pros Iíd like to see gone permanently


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    Keep
    For first 11: Pantilimon*, Milosevic, Toby, Robinson, Yacob, Lolley, Carvalho, Grabban
    For bench: Steele, Benalouane, Cash, Osborn*, Soudani
    For backup: Smith, Darikwa, Worrall, Yates, Appiah, Walker, Dawson (for leadership)

    *listen to offers

    Try to get (but for a good deal on fee+wages): Byram, Colback

    Get rid/release: MON, Keane, Henderson, Janko, Wague, Hefele, Guedioura, Watson, Murphy, Goncalves, Bridcutt, Pele, Bonatini, Ward, Ansarifard, Ariyibi, Cummings, Grant, Clough, Vellios

    Would leaving us requiring a first choice RB, CM (which could be Byram and Colback) and LW, and a backup LB and CM. And of course, an actual manager with tactics and all that malarky. Think we're closer than some people think. Would be happy with 5 signings (try and get the backups on the cheap and go for 3 real quality players though) with a view to use loan market properly in January.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Zeus View Post
    On the slim chance that anyone is interested in what I'd do, in an ideal world:

    I've just put sell as a catch-all for expiring contracts and receiving fees from other clubs.

    Pantillimon - Keep, perfectly good 'keeper for this level
    Steele - fine as a back-up, he would only be playing five odd cup games anyway.
    Smith - sell
    Henderson - sell

    Figueiredo - good player, keep
    Wague - I haven't seen enough of him, but he seems alright
    Milosevic - keep
    Dawson - I'd imagine he'll be retiring this summer
    Benalouane - same as Wague
    Hefele - sell
    Worrall - I'd probably keep him here next season, but he'd be fifth choice CB behind Milosevic, Benalouane, Wague and Figueiredo

    Robinson - keep, but needs to be played at LB with a license to go forward
    Janko - loan expires
    Byram - I'd be happy to give him another year loan
    Darikwa - I'd keep him. He was pretty good for the first half of the season

    Colback - definitely keep
    Carvalho - definitely keep
    Lolley - definitely keep
    Yacob - definitely keep
    Osborn - happy to keep as a useful utility player, but would sell if a decent offer came in
    Cash - keep
    Watson - sell
    Guedioura - sell
    Bridcutt - sell
    Goncalves - loan to expire
    Yates - loan him out
    Pele - loan to expire
    Ward - sell
    Grant- sell
    Appiah - loan out

    Grabban - definitely keep
    Soudani - haven't really seen enough of him, would keep if his fitness problems are resolved
    Ansarifard - probably sell, but not against seeing more of what he can do as a back-up
    Murphy - sell
    Bonatini - loan to expire
    Walker - loan out, though would be happy to have him as a squad player
    That puts us at around 18 players, give or take one or two.

    Also highlights where we need to make our signings: a left back, a right back, two wingers and a striker. I wouldn't say no to a real quality CB too if one became available.

    That makes 23-25ish, so we'd probably have need couple of loans and academy players to up the numbers slightly.

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    I’d pretty much go along with this list.

    Left back and Striker the number one priorities.


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    Pro's & cons in AK's tenure but, for someone who was meant to clear the club of deadwood, I don't think we've ever had so much deadwood on the books which we needs to shift pre-season

    19 players I counted. As Ravi says give or take a player, but either way it's a big job on for MON.


 

 

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