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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    So we had no corners? We scored from one
    I know. I couldn't believe my eyes either. Us scoring from a corner.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Notcher View Post
    A good analysis of the situation and not one I'd looked at from that angle. I think there is a lot of merit in this notion whereby sides have much less expectation and/or where the fan base aren't as demanding. It certainly affords managers the luxury of being given the precious "commodity of time" along with the board to implent a much strategy that can grow organically and therefore embed a solid structure.

    As you pointed out there is no way the clubs mentioned fanbase and it's core stakeholders have the patience for anything other than seeing tangible results on and off the pitch. I do think ironically as supporters at Forest we were/are happy to go back to the slow build strategy simply because we are one of the longest suffering from those big clubs that have seen time after time the quick fix is always a slow but never fixed solution.

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    I thought that but there were plenty of complaints about Warburton and Brazil's approach.
    Comments like "if I wanted to watch the academy lads I'd got to the academy, not the City Ground" and "I pay a lot for my season ticket, I don't expect to see a bunch of youngsters on a training exercise".

    All fair points of course.

    Then there's the sky sports crowd that have a meltdown if we haven't made a marquee signing by the end of deadline day.

    The fan base is divided on what it wants, even down to style, Martin is getting hoofball comments after four games. Warburton was a glorified PE teacher, AK was a draw specialist, Dougie bored everybody to tears and Davies was insane.

    We can't agree on anything and nothing and no one is good enough for Nottingham Forest at any given time from one section of the fans or another.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    I thought that but there were plenty of complaints about Warburton and Brazil's approach.
    Comments like "if I wanted to watch the academy lads I'd got to the academy, not the City Ground" and "I pay a lot for my season ticket, I don't expect to see a bunch of youngsters on a training exercise".

    All fair points of course.

    Then there's the sky sports crowd that have a meltdown if we haven't made a marquee signing by the end of deadline day.

    The fan base is divided on what it wants, even down to style, Martin is getting hoofball comments after four games. Warburton was a glorified PE teacher, AK was a draw specialist, Dougie bored everybody to tears and Davies was insane.

    We can't agree on anything and nothing and no one is good enough for Nottingham Forest at any given time from one section of the fans or another.
    As you say everyone has got an opinion and more often than not ours is massively divided, some people's opinions are obviously more valuable than others.

    I would like to have thought that we have done what all good planners for the future should in learning from history. The one indisputable fact is that nothing we have done for the last 20 years has been a success. That in itself tells you the strategies have been wrong and the common denominator within those has been a short termism. To me it's pretty obvious the answer lies within that.

    As you say others will disagree

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    Default Re: Matchday 31: Brentford Fan Comments

    To be fair, since their promotion to the Championship in 2013/2014 they haven't finished outside the top 10 so their recent history is far more successful than ours.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez the Killer View Post
    To be fair, since their promotion to the Championship in 2013/2014 they haven't finished outside the top 10 so their recent history is far more successful than ours.
    It's a stat that no one will remember though mate because up to yet they've achieved nothing.

    Like I said earlier, Coventry City being a top flight club is now a distant memory to those of a certain age.
    I bet the young uns think they were always crap but they actually had 34 years in the top flight. Way more than us.


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    Most folk around the world (when talking about football) have heard of Nottingham Forest.

    I bet not so many have ever heard of Brentford.

    I rest my case your honour.

    Last edited by rockabilly; 11-02-19 at 20:19.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    I thought that but there were plenty of complaints about Warburton and Brazil's approach.
    Comments like "if I wanted to watch the academy lads I'd got to the academy, not the City Ground" and "I pay a lot for my season ticket, I don't expect to see a bunch of youngsters on a training exercise".

    All fair points of course.

    Then there's the sky sports crowd that have a meltdown if we haven't made a marquee signing by the end of deadline day.

    The fan base is divided on what it wants, even down to style, Martin is getting hoofball comments after four games. Warburton was a glorified PE teacher, AK was a draw specialist, Dougie bored everybody to tears and Davies was insane.

    We can't agree on anything and nothing and no one is good enough for Nottingham Forest at any given time from one section of the fans or another.
    I agree that there will always be disagreement amongst fans about managers, players, approaches etc, but ultimately it isn’t fans who make the decisions at the club. There have been several managers in recent times who were very popular with the fan base as a whole, including the last one, but it didn’t stop them being bombed out when the owners wanted a change.

    Collectively fans are far more patient than our last two owners.

    Last edited by Ravi; 11-02-19 at 20:19.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Stone's Mullet View Post
    The irony is, despite us being too big to follow some of their principles, if we did, even though it is a longer process, it would probably result in success, as opposed to buying an expensive lottery ticket every season with a collective of different styles.
    Liverpool tried it and it was an absolute disaster for them.

    I don't think the concept works particularly well with football unless you can find players devoid of personality.


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    We used to be proud of the way we played football, I wonder if opposition fans found that prude as arrogant and distasteful.


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    Default Re: Matchday 31: Brentford Fan Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    I thought that but there were plenty of complaints about Warburton and Brazil's approach.
    Comments like "if I wanted to watch the academy lads I'd got to the academy, not the City Ground" and "I pay a lot for my season ticket, I don't expect to see a bunch of youngsters on a training exercise".

    All fair points of course.

    Then there's the sky sports crowd that have a meltdown if we haven't made a marquee signing by the end of deadline day.

    The fan base is divided on what it wants, even down to style, Martin is getting hoofball comments after four games. Warburton was a glorified PE teacher, AK was a draw specialist, Dougie bored everybody to tears and Davies was insane.

    We can't agree on anything and nothing and no one is good enough for Nottingham Forest at any given time from one section of the fans or another.
    Division begets division. We've suffered from weak leadership which has divided fans each year through constant change, and with each divide we get that bit weaker.

    For all the talk about professionalism, the Greeks have so far been fairly spineless and shown little more backbone than Fawaz did.

    "The King and the land are one" as they say.


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    Default Re: Matchday 31: Brentford Fan Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin Plummer View Post
    We used to be proud of the way we played football, I wonder if opposition fans found that prude as arrogant and distasteful.
    People dismiss the notion of identity, but this club did have a clear identity in terms of style of football, playing the game the right way etc at one point. I’m not saying we should rigidly adhere to principles from the past, but the only identity the club has now is desperation, promotion at any cost, and chopping and changing styles every season.


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    Default Re: Matchday 31: Brentford Fan Comments

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    People dismiss the notion of identity, but this club did have a clear identity in terms of style of football, playing the game the right way etc at one point. I’m not saying we should rigidly adhere to principles from the past, but the only identity the club has now is desperation, promotion at any cost, and chopping and changing styles every season.
    to be fair a lot said the same after the warburton sacking and the ones that didnt are now saying that after the karanka sacking.....


 

 

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