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    Default The LTLF FORUM LEAGUES + LTLF CUP





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    Post #1: Is what you're reading right now!

    Post #2: CURRENT LEAGUE TABLES - Divisions 1,2 & 3

    Post #3: FORTHCOMING LEAGUE FIXTURES / LATEST RESULTS / "Fixture of the Week"

    Post #4: Our LTLF CUP COMP's - Fixtures & Results for LTLF CUP & LTLF EUROPEAN CUP

    Post #5: HONOURS HISTORY For all Leagues & Cup Comp's

    Post #6: HOW THE LEAGUES WORK - description / rules + How our 'Scoring Teams' are selected / A full seasons fixture list

    Post #7: HOW THE CUP COMP'S WORK - description / rules for LTLF CUP, LTLF CALAMITY SHIELD & LTLF EUROPEAN CUP

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    CURRENT LEAGUE TABLES
    For fixtures played on a Fri/Sat tables will be updated by following Mon evening.
    For fixtures on Tues/Wed tables will be updated Wed eve or Fri eve latest





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    FORTHCOMING FIXTURES & LATEST RESULTS
    Full list of Season Fixtures








    LTLF LEAGUE FIXTURES 2019 / 20 (a)

    AUG
    1. Sat 3 + The CALAMITY SHIELD FINAL
    2. Sat 10
    3. Sat 17
    4. Tue 20
    5. Sat 24
    6. Sat 31 + LTLF CUP RD 1

    SEPT
    7. Sat 7
    8. Sat 14
    9. Tue 17 + LTLF CUP RD 2

    Wed 18 - LTLF EURO CUP 1st group games – scores from league game 9 count

    10. Sat 21
    11. Sat 28

    OCT
    Wed 2 – LTLF EURO CUP 2nd group games – scores from league game 11 count

    12. Sat 5 + LTLF CUP QF
    13. Sat 12
    14. Sat 19
    15. Tue 22

    Wed 23rd – LTLF EURO CUP 3rd group games – scores from league game 15 count

    16. Sat 26 + LTLF CUP SF

    NOV
    17. Sat 2

    Wed 6th – LTLF EURO CUP QF – scores from league game 17 count

    18. Sat 9 – (is FA Cup 1st RD Proper, cup scores count for this league fixture)
    19. Sat 16
    20. Sat 23 + LTLF CUP FINAL

    Wed 27 – LTLF EURO CUP SF – scores from league game 20 count

    21. Sat 30 – (is FA Cup 2nd RD Proper, cup scores count for this fixture, if not playing 1 goal awarded)

    DEC
    22. Sat 7

    Wed 11 – LTLF EURO CUP FINAL – scores from league game 22 count


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    OUR LTLF CUP COMP'S


    The LTLF CUP
    (For HOW IT WORKS see description in Post #7 below)



    The LTLF EUROPEAN CUP
    (For HOW IT WORKS see description in Post #7 below)


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    HONOURS (& HORRORS) HISTORY



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    HOW THE LEAGUES WORK
    Description / rules + 'Scoring Teams' selection process for future seasons


    Three Divisions each of 12 players = 22 games per 'season' per Division. We have 2 seasons within one actual football season... aren't we the lucky ones!

    At the end of each LTLF League season there will be promotion / relegation of bottom 3 of Div 1, top 3 / bottom 3 of Div 2, top 3 of Div 3.


    Basically, each person gets a 'Scoring Team' from out of leagues 1 & 2. Their goals scored are then dependant on what, each week, their 'Scoring Team' gets.

    Our league's weekly fixture results will not reflect actual fixtures but the results will be decided by goals scored by all the 'Scoring Teams' being used.


    Example:
    userA is playing against userB.

    userA has 'Scoring Team' Bradford, userB has 'Scoring Team' Newport.

    In their actual games that weekend, Bradford score 1, Newport score 2.

    This gives a LTLF forum league result of userA 1 userB 2.




    Fixtures
    See post #3 above for a full list of a seasons fixtures covering all 3 Divisions.



    League Tables
    Presented as any actual football league tables.
    League positions dictated by (in this order of priority); Points total, Goal difference, Goals For, alphabetical.



    'Rules'
    All our 'Scoring Teams' scores will be taken from actual league games they play on a Fri/Sat or Tues/Wed when MAJORITY or all of our teams are playing at the same time.

    If anyone's 'Scoring Team' doesn't play for whatever reason (not due to play / match called off), the user with that team will be awarded ONE GOAL. Where a game is abandoned any goals scored by a 'Scoring Team' will not count as they are NOT a final result - the player will be awarded ONE GOAL even if their team had scored 6 prior to it's game being abandoned.

    BAD WEATHER; As found in the trial, mass cancellations due to bad weather can lead to a lot of 1-1's. Sorry, but can't avoid this if it happens. As we've got 44 games to get through (in 2 of our seasons) during an actual league 1 & 2 season of 46 games there isn't the time to cancel our fixtures. Plus, the cancelled games get scattered over many different days / weeks which is of no use to us. If God decides we should cop for a load of 1-1 draws then I'm afraid we're stuck with it!




    Scoring Teams
    We keep the same 'Scoring Team' for 2 LTLF League seasons (ie, 2018/19(a) & 2018/19(b), the duration of 1 actual football season. After that new 'Scoring teams' are assigned to each player depending on where they finished up (which Division + position) at the end of each '(b)' season.
    See the table below for how this is done - please note it is entirely possible (but not too likely) that a player could end up with the same 'Scoring team' as they had before.


    DIV 1
    1st - 3rd or 4th League 1 )
    2nd - 4th or 5th League 1 )
    3rd - 5th or 6th League 1 ) require completion of Leagues 1 & 2 Play-off finals
    4th - 4th or 5th League 2 ) highest placed teams (that weren't promoted) get assigned
    5th - 5th or 6th League 2 )
    6th - 6th or 7th League 2 )
    7th - 7th League 1
    8th - 8th League 2
    9th - 8th League 1
    10th - 9th League 2
    11th - 9th League 1
    12th - 10th League 2

    DIV 2
    1st - 10th League 1
    2nd - 11th League 2
    3rd - 11th League 1
    4th - 12th League 2
    5th - 12th League 1
    6th - 13th League 2
    7th - 13th League 1
    8th - 14th League 2
    9th - 14th League 1
    10th - 15th League 2
    11th - 15th League 1
    12th - 16th League 2

    DIV 3
    1st - 16th League 1
    2nd - 17th League 2
    3rd - 17th League 1
    4th - 18th League 2
    5th - 18th League 1
    6th - 19th League 2
    7th - 19th League 1
    8th - 20th League 2
    9th - 20th League 1
    10th - 21st League 2
    11th - 21st League 1
    12th - 22nd League 2



    List of current scoring teams:

    DIVISION 1
    1. Tobias – Newport
    2. T.B.T – Peterborough
    3. geordieforest – Sunderland
    4. _ _Andy!_ _ – Doncaster
    5. Wes’ Organ – Forest Green
    6. derbyshirered – Mansfield
    7. redforest – Blackpool
    8. uredsuns – Carlisle
    9. I’m Red Till Dead – Portsmouth
    10. Trents – Fleetwood
    11. MASE – Coventry
    12. rockabilly – Colchester


    DIVISION 2
    1. East Stand – Accrington
    2. BryanRoy22 – Oxford
    3. Thomas – Stevenage
    4. Jervine – Rochdale
    5. Farmer Jack – Burton Albion
    6. Steve Stone’s Mullet – Exeter
    7. Carlos – Wycombe
    8. Harvey – Crewe
    9. Garry-Balding Red – Oldham
    10. puds1970 – Grimsby
    11. Alf-Uggin’ – Swindon
    12. Flagman – Gillingham


    DIVISION 3
    1. mellison99 – Morecombe
    2. Huxley – Bristol Rovers
    3. Freddie – Shrewsbury
    4. Keith – Crawley
    5. Taylor_82 – Northampton
    6. Spaceman – Southend
    7. lard – Cambridge
    8. ForestTurner – Plymouth
    9. Dan_Bristol - Macclesfield
    10. eugenuebopp’ – Port Vale
    11. Rzarecteh – Cheltenham
    12. MXJ – Wimbledon



    List of fixtures - these apply to all 3 Divisions:

    Game 1: 1v12 2v11 3v10 4v9 5v8 6v7

    Game 2: 11v1 10v2 9v3 8v4 7v5 12v6

    Game 3: 1v10 2v9 3v8 4v7 5v6 11v12

    Game 4: 9v1 8v2 7v3 6v4 12v5 10v11

    Game 5: 1v8 2v7 3v6 4v5 11v9 10v12

    Game 6: 7v1 6v2 5v3 12v4 8v11 9v10 (+ CUP RD 1)

    Game 7: 1v6 2v5 3v4 11v7 10v8 9v12

    Game 8: 5v1 4v2 12v3 6v11 7v10 8v9

    Game 9: 1v4 2v3 11v5 10v6 9v7 8v12 (+ CUP RD 2)

    Game 10: 3v1 12v2 4v11 5v10 6v9 7v8

    Game 11: 1v2 11v3 10v4 9v5 8v6 7v12

    Game 12: 12v1 11v2 10v3 9v4 8v5 7v6 (+ CUP QTR-FINAL)

    Game 13: 1v11 2v10 3v9 4v8 5v7 6v12

    Game 14: 10v1 9v2 8v3 7v4 6v5 12v11

    Game 15: 1v9 2v8 3v7 4v6 5v12 11v10

    Game 16: 8v1 7v2 6v3 5v4 9v11 12v10 (+ CUP SEMI-FINAL)

    Game 17: 1v7 2v6 3v5 4v12 11v8 10v9

    Game 18: 6v1 5v2 4v3 7v11 8v10 12v9

    Game 19: 1v5 2v4 3v12 11v6 10v7 9v8

    Game 20: 4v1 3v2 5v11 6v10 7v9 12v8 (+ CUP FINAL)

    Game 21: 1v3 2v12 11v4 10v5 9v6 8v7

    Game 22: 2v1 3v11 4v10 5v9 6v8 12v7




    LTLF LEAGUE FIXTURES 2019 / 20 (a)

    AUG
    1. Sat 3 + The CALAMITY SHIELD FINAL
    2. Sat 10
    3. Sat 17
    4. Tue 20
    5. Sat 24
    6. Sat 31 + LTLF CUP RD 1

    SEPT
    7. Sat 7
    8. Sat 14
    9. Tue 17 + LTLF CUP RD 2

    Wed 18 - LTLF EURO CUP 1st group games – scores from league game 9 count

    10. Sat 21
    11. Sat 28

    OCT
    Wed 2 – LTLF EURO CUP 2nd group games – scores from league game 11 count

    12. Sat 5 + LTLF CUP QF
    13. Sat 12
    14. Sat 19
    15. Tue 22

    Wed 23rd – LTLF EURO CUP 3rd group games – scores from league game 15 count

    16. Sat 26 + LTLF CUP SF

    NOV
    17. Sat 2

    Wed 6th – LTLF EURO CUP QF – scores from league game 17 count

    18. Sat 9 – (is FA Cup 1st RD Proper, cup scores count for this league fixture)
    19. Sat 16
    20. Sat 23 + LTLF CUP FINAL

    Wed 27 – LTLF EURO CUP SF – scores from league game 20 count

    21. Sat 30 – (is FA Cup 2nd RD Proper, cup scores count for this fixture, if not playing 1 goal awarded)

    DEC
    22. Sat 7

    Wed 11 – LTLF EURO CUP FINAL – scores from league game 22 count





    LTLF LEAGUE FIXTURES 2019 / 20 (b)

    DEC
    1. Sun 29 + The CALAMITY SHIELD FINAL

    JAN
    2. Wed 1
    3. Sat 4
    4. Sat 11
    5. Sat 18
    6. Sat 25 + LTLF CUP RD 1
    7. Tue 28

    FEB
    8. Sat 1
    9. Sat 8 + LTLF CUP RD 2
    10. Tue 11
    11. Sat 15
    12. Sat 22 + LTLF CUP QF
    13. Sat 29

    MAR
    14. Sat 7
    15. Sat 14
    16. Sat 21 + LTLF CUP SF
    17. Sat 28

    APR
    18. Sat 4
    19. Sat 10
    20. Mon 13 + LTLF CUP FINAL
    21. Sat 18
    22. Sat 25



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    LTLF CUP - LTLF CALAMITY SHIELD - LTLF EUROPEAN CUP
    HOW THEY WORK...



    The LTLF CUP

    Each LTLF League season will have a LTLF CUP competition.

    The Cup will begin at Game No.6 of the league season. Because we have a total of 36 players over the 3 Divisions the bottom FOUR PLAYERS of Div 3 after five league games have been played will miss out on being entered in the cup for that current season. SORRY! But can only have 32 teams in our first round.

    The rounds will run in conjunction with the following League Game No's:-
    ROUND 1: Game No.6
    ROUND 2: Game No.9
    QTR Finals: Game No.12
    Semi-Finals: Game No.16
    FINAL: Game No.20


    Scores will be produced just as in the league. For example; your teams score for league game No. 6 will also be your score in Round 1 of the Cup.


    There won't be any REPLAYS....
    In the event of a SCORE DRAW the following stats will decide who 'won in extra time':-
    The team that scored first, or if equal
    The team that had most shots on target, or if equal
    The team that had the highest % possession, or if equal
    I'll flip a coin, heads home team, tails away team.


    In the event of a GOALESS DRAW the following stats will decide who 'won in extra time':-
    The team that had most shots on target, or if equal
    The team that had the highest % possession, or if equal
    I'll flip a coin, heads home team, tails away team.


    In all above cases, the stats used will be as given on BBC's League 1 and League 2 web pages.


    BAD WEATHER; If bad weather causes games around the country to be called off I reserve the right to cancel the Cup round and play it along with the very next LTLF League games. I would do this in the name of 'fair play' and the 'spirit of fun' in which this is all intended. This is because in the absence of fully played out games I can not resolve draws to the rules given above.



    FIXTURES & RESULTS
    Below are the 'pre-made' cup draw FIXTURES.
    RESULTS will appear to the right hand side of the fixtures as they happen.


    The 'draw' for Round 1 will be determined by everyone's current league position after five league games have been played.
    (Again, sorry there's no room for current bottom 4 of DIV 3 but "you should have pulled yer fingers out in the first five league games.." lol)



    LTLF CUP DRAWS:

    ROUND 1:
    Match 1: 6th Div3 v 8th Div2......
    Match 2: 1st Div2 v 7th Div1......
    Match 3: 8th Div3 v 11th Div1.....
    Match 4: 5th Div1 v 2nd Div1......
    Match 5: 4th Div1 v 2nd Div3......
    Match 6: 6th Div2 v 3rd Div2......
    Match 7: 12th Div2 v 7th Div3.....
    Match 8: 9th Div1 v 6th Div1......
    Match 9: 1st Div3 v 9th Div2......
    Match 10: 12th Div1 v 4th Div2....
    Match 11: 1st Div1 v 5th Div2.....
    Match 12: 10th Div2 v 3rd Div3....
    Match 13: 4th Div3 v 3rd Div1.....
    Match 14: 8th Div1 v 5th Div3.....
    Match 15: 11th Div2 v 2nd Div2....
    Match 16: 7th Div2 v 10th Div1....


    ROUND 2
    1. Winner Match 15 v Winner Match 10....
    2. Winner Match 5 v Winner Match 3......
    3. Winner Match 13 v Winner Match 12....
    4. Winner Match 4 v Winner Match 7......
    5. Winner Match 9 v Winner Match 1......
    6. Winner Match 11 v Winner Match 16....
    7. Winner Match 8 v Winner Match 6......
    8. Winner Match 2 v Winner Match 14.....


    QUARTER FINALS
    1. Winner Match 3 v Winner Match 6....
    2. Winner Match 7 v Winner Match 4....
    3. Winner Match 5 v Winner Match 1....
    4. Winner Match 2 v Winner Match 8....


    SEMI-FINALS
    1. Winner Match 4 v Winner Match 2....
    2. Winner Match 1 v Winner Match 3....


    LTLF CUP FINAL
    Winner Match 1 v Winner Match 2....




    The LTLF CALAMITY SHIELD

    Each season will have a LTLF CALAMITY SHIELD.

    This is played along with the FIRST game of every new season.

    It is played between the previous seasons Div 1 Champions and winner of the LTLF Cup.
    In the event that somebody has done the 'League and Cup Double' they will play against the Div 1 runner-up.





    The LTLF EUROPEAN CUP

    This is played ONCE A YEAR between Sept and Dec during every '(A) season' to coincide with the Champions League Group stages only.

    All those who finish in the top 8 of Div 1 at the end of a '(B) season' will be entered in it.

    They will be joined in 4x Groups of four teams (A,B,C & D) by 8x teams who are in the Champions League Group stage (1x team from each of it's 8 Groups).

    I will select 4x ‘fancied’ teams and 4x ‘unfancied’ teams to join our 8 players in the LTLF European Cup. I will not select any English teams though.

    Each of our 4 starting groups will then get 1x ‘fancied’ and 1x ‘unfancied’ European team placed in it.

    The 4x teams in each of our starting groups will then play each other ONCE.

    These fixtures will coincide with the dates of the Champions League group games (usually played on a Tues or Wed).

    Results of our LTLF European Cup fixtures will be determined thus:
    1. Whatever the used European teams score in their actual Champs League matches will be pitched against our teams most recent Division 1 league scores, either from the same day if our LTLF Leagues have a mid-week game OR taken from their most recent game.
    2. Once out of our Group stages, winners of score draws or goalless draws will be settled by the same criteria as used in the LTLF Cup - except in the event of such criteria also being equal, our teams will then win over a European team by default.


    Once the 3 games have been played in each Group, the top 2 teams progress into the knockout rounds with Group winners playing against another Group’s runner-up (see the LTLF European Cup template in post #4 above).

    If two of our teams are tied in their Group on points, goal difference and ‘goals for’ then position will be decided alphabetically. If one of our teams is so tied with a European team, our team will take the higher position by default.


    Our LTLF European Cup Final gets played on the date of the last Champions League group games. In this way we ensure that any European teams used that may get to the final are still playing.

    It is entirely possible that the LTLF European Cup could be won by one of those ‘dirty European types’. Let’s hope not – it’s down to our LTLF League representatives to step up to the mark and PLAY THEM OFF THE PARK!



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    Good job GBR. It looks like a full time job keeping this up to date!


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    Thanks GBR, for all of your efforts and making Dewdrop Notts County.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes' Organ View Post
    Thanks GBR, for all of your efforts and making Dewdrop Notts County.
    County, County, County.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    County, County, County.
    Get back behind your gate, mouth.


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    So despite the "PLEASE *** PLEASE *** PLEASE DON'T POST HERE YET" bit....

    (You were right chriscl!)


    Anyway, I'm happy I've got enough consecutive posts to play with so thread STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION but NOW OPEN. Ta.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry-Balding Red View Post
    So despite the "PLEASE *** PLEASE *** PLEASE DON'T POST HERE YET" bit....

    (You were right chriscl!)


    Anyway, I'm happy I've got enough consecutive posts to play with so thread STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION but NOW OPEN. Ta.
    Sorry pal, just taken you off ignore so didn't see that.


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    Thread has been “Stickied” so it will remain pinned to the top of the sub-forum for ease of access.

    „I believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialism“

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscl View Post
    Thread has been “Stickied” so it will remain pinned to the top of the sub-forum for ease of access.
    Yes, many thanks for that chriscl. As stickies go I've never felt so well stuck.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes' Organ View Post
    Sorry pal, just taken you off ignore so didn't see that.
    I don't know what that means so not sure if I should be happy about it or not Wes'.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry-Balding Red View Post
    I don't know what that means so not sure if I should be happy about it or not Wes'.
    It's a massive compliment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes' Organ View Post
    It's a massive compliment.
    Then I'm massively happy about it Wes' (despite not knowing what it meant).


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    League table is wrong! A before B!

    "Ive only met Andy....last week actually and can confirm he is in 2nd place in sexiest fucker on here stakes." -Barry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aitor KarAndy! View Post
    League table is wrong! A before B!
    ...except after c.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aitor KarAndy! View Post
    League table is wrong! A before B!
    Ever watch Red Dwarf?

    "Go to Red Alert!"
    "Are you sure sir? It does mean having to change the bulb..."


    Aye, well.
    When I've finished everything else I may yet give you your moment of glory. Then deduct the 10 pts!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes' Organ View Post
    ...except after c.
    LOL !!


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    Seriously though, good work.


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    I'm bout to skin Barry alive with the carnage tactics from Douglas Fredman.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Freedman View Post
    I'm bout to skin Barry alive with the carnage tactics from Douglas Fredman.
    *coma


 

 

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