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    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    This is completely different to going on about Stuart Pearce and demanding fans only hope to finish 14th

    I do think there will be wiggle room with the wage budget but obviously not crazy spending. The new board seems more creative in their approach to transfers so it will intriguing to see what happens. Wouldn't be surprised to see us competing more with the top end Championship clubs.
    Totally agree.

    I think we're more likely to pinch top 6 Champ fringe players for the forward positions, or go abroad, than we are go Prem-wards.

    It's just the extra fees & wages forward players command which often kills the job.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aitor Aitor A Puddycat View Post
    Colback is apparently on 72k/week at Newcastle and we are covering half of that. It would take some financial jiggerypokery for him to be here next season.
    We could however get someone like Ulloa on loan next season and cover half his wages


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    That's the thing mate, he's on loan now and Brighton are having to cover 60k/wk. Not sure why the dippers would then loan him to us to cover less?


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    I guess the only war round it would be if Ulloa wanted to play so much he'd take a massive hit. He did hand in a transfer request previously. But yeah, at that cost, he's gonna be going elsewhere.

    I think there's plenty of good strikers on the fringes at Prem clubs who'd be good options should they want the move.

    I like AK's insistence players have to want to play here.

    Gonna be interesting to see what transpires. He/Staff have done a good ob of attracting the right type of characters in Jan at least. Hopefully it continues.


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    Default Re: The Aitor Karanka Appreciation Thread

    i would rather take a punt on Soudani again or someone similiar in europe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-ugginblowupyourbakery View Post
    Totally agree.

    I think we're more likely to pinch top 6 Champ fringe players for the forward positions, or go abroad, than we are go Prem-wards.

    It's just the extra fees & wages forward players command which often kills the job.
    Exactly. It wouldn't amaze me if we made one marquee signing as a statement of intent, in the form of a expensive striker but with the new guys I feel more confident that it won't put the club at risk. Their record in Greece, and here so far, suggests they value sound finances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    Exactly. It wouldn't amaze me if we made one marquee signing as a statement of intent, in the form of a expensive striker but with the new guys I feel more confident that it won't put the club at risk. Their record in Greece, and here so far, suggests they value sound finances.
    I agree that they won't put the club at risk but they will have to take calculated risks if they want that promotion I think. You'd have to be very lucky to do it without spending good money these days.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    Someone like Aleksandar Mitrović would be ideal as a lone striker for us. Not only has an eye for goal, but importantly he would help the three forwards behind by holding on to the ball and linking up attacks.
    Linked to Olympiacos on more than one occasion, and there are agent channels through which an approach could be made. He won't be cheap though.


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    Default Re: The Aitor Karanka Appreciation Thread

    I wanted to know who was going to win the other thread argument.
    Doing a decent job thus far, things starting to click as he wants it to. Improved a couple of players. Shame that Fuentes, Dejagah and possibly adlene won't work out but you throw the dice. Optimistic as to the summer. Keep it up Aitor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    Linked to Olympiacos on more than one occasion, and there are agent channels through which an approach could be made. He won't be cheap though.
    i would imagine fulham would hsve first dibs if he's available.


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    Quote Originally Posted by carlosmerino View Post
    I wanted to know who was going to win the other thread argument.
    Doing a decent job thus far, things starting to click as he wants it to. Improved a couple of players. Shame that Fuentes, Dejagah and possibly adlene won't work out but you throw the dice. Optimistic as to the summer. Keep it up Aitor.
    can;t say about adlene since he;ll still be around but dejagah and fuentes won;t have a lot of games to impress. wonder if they;ll stay around in the summer as trialists.


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    Default Re: The Aitor Karanka Appreciation Thread

    [QUOTE=carlosmerino;2756371]I wanted to know who was going to win the other thread argument.
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    Flagman won it in the end.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marshal99 View Post
    i would imagine fulham would hsve first dibs if he's available.
    If they go up they might not want him. If they don't go up they might not be able to afford him.
    Who knows. It's all speculation currently.

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    If we want to try a bargain.

    There's a lad playing for Nimes; Umut Bozok, 21, a French Turk, in Ligue 2, scored 21 goals in 28 games. They signed him for 150k from the league below after he scored 18 in 31 for Consolat. Scored 13 in 33 for Metz II prior to that. 3 in 4 for Turkey U21's too.

    So if nothing else, looks like he knows where the net is, and is scoring each time he goes up a level.

    Some really talented lads come from French football, they get a good education.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajht8ZKai5w

    Some questionable defending, but looks like he has a bit of instinct about him, uses both feet too. A little bit of Earnshaw there I feel.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Stone's Mullet View Post
    If we want to try a bargain.

    There's a lad playing for Nimes; Umut Bozok, 21, a French Turk, in Ligue 2, scored 21 goals in 28 games. They signed him for 150k from the league below after he scored 18 in 31 for Consolat. Scored 13 in 33 for Metz II prior to that. 3 in 4 for Turkey U21's too.

    So if nothing else, looks like he knows where the net is, and is scoring each time he goes up a level.

    Some really talented lads come from French football, they get a good education.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ajht8ZKai5w

    Some questionable defending, but looks like he has a bit of instinct about him, uses both feet too. A little bit of Earnshaw there I feel.
    There's always bargains to be had smashing goals in European leagues, just whether it translates in the Championship.

    There's the lad in the Spanish second division scoring for fun at the moment as well, Jaime Mata. I can't remember who he plays for but I'm pretty sure he's on close to 30 goals, older though.


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    He plays for Valladolid, alongside an Olypiacos loanee, Giannis Gianniotas who was highly thought of but seems to have maybe never developed.

    Agree there's bargains everywhere in Europe. That Mata seems to have scored at each level he's been at. For me, it's about their technique and type of goals they score. Because lots of players score goals against crap defences. But how do they finish, how do they strike the ball, what's their movement like before the goal... There's lots of little elements that I think show if they can do the same at different levels.

    Ultimately until they do, you can never be 100% sure. But I think it's possible to see signs in ability that indicate some players are more likely to succeed.


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    Default Re: The Aitor Karanka Appreciation Thread

    When we checked him out in the summer for a loan, Mitrovic was earning £50k a week, way above what we could pay.

    Quote Originally Posted by J'Psycho'C66 View Post
    There's always bargains to be had smashing goals in European leagues, just whether it translates in the Championship.

    There's the lad in the Spanish second division scoring for fun at the moment as well, Jaime Mata. I can't remember who he plays for but I'm pretty sure he's on close to 30 goals, older though.
    Yes there are many bargains in France and Spain. Mata plays for Real Valladolid, and I've seen even weirder cases, like a Spaniard who came to a Greek club a couple of years ago from the Spanish third division and started scoring like crazy; he hasn't stopped since.

    But why is the new Karanka thread turning into a transfer thread? I repeat, there must be a curse on Karanka's topics. Either that, or there is in reality absolutely nothing to be said about Karanka.


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    Default Re: The Aitor Karanka Appreciation Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    When we checked him out in the summer for a loan, Mitrovic was earning £50k a week, way above what we could pay.



    Yes there are many bargains in France and Spain. Mata plays for Real Valladolid, and I've seen even weirder cases, like a Spaniard who came to a Greek club a couple of years ago from the Spanish third division and started scoring like crazy; he hasn't stopped since.

    But why is the new Karanka thread turning into a transfer thread? I repeat, there must be a curse on Karanka's topics. Either that, or there is in reality absolutely nothing to be said about Karanka.
    We're midtable and the season is almost done, we know Karanka needs a striker so why not! At least it's constructive conversation this time


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    Quote Originally Posted by J'Psycho'C66 View Post
    I agree that they won't put the club at risk but they will have to take calculated risks if they want that promotion I think. You'd have to be very lucky to do it without spending good money these days.
    Definitely. They will no doubt be willing to take calculated risks (to some extent they've shown that already) but I wouldn't imagine any of them to be promotion or bust risks. It will still be done in a way that doesn't plunge the club into chaos in future.


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    Default Re: The Aitor Karanka Appreciation Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    When we checked him out in the summer for a loan, Mitrovic was earning £50k a week, way above what we could pay.



    Yes there are many bargains in France and Spain. Mata plays for Real Valladolid, and I've seen even weirder cases, like a Spaniard who came to a Greek club a couple of years ago from the Spanish third division and started scoring like crazy; he hasn't stopped since.

    But why is the new Karanka thread turning into a transfer thread? I repeat, there must be a curse on Karanka's topics. Either that, or there is in reality absolutely nothing to be said about Karanka.
    We're taking it post by post until the inevitable hand grenade is thrown in.


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    Default Re: The Aitor Karanka Appreciation Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    When we checked him out in the summer for a loan, Mitrovic was earning £50k a week, way above what we could pay.



    Yes there are many bargains in France and Spain. Mata plays for Real Valladolid, and I've seen even weirder cases, like a Spaniard who came to a Greek club a couple of years ago from the Spanish third division and started scoring like crazy; he hasn't stopped since.

    But why is the new Karanka thread turning into a transfer thread? I repeat, there must be a curse on Karanka's topics. Either that, or there is in reality absolutely nothing to be said about Karanka.
    A Warburton thread would have never turned into a transfer thread, that's for sure..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by MASE View Post
    Think he's on loan with a view to a perm deal in the Summer. Difficult to see that going tits up to be fair.
    yeah but if they go up, with the intent they have made to spend dont think they will sign him. same with villa, agbonlahor, kodija, grabbon, hourihanne dont see them really cutting it in the prem


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    Default Re: The Aitor Karanka Appreciation Thread

    [QUOTE=Erik;2756375][QUOTE=carlosmerino;2756371]I wanted to know who was going to win the other thread argument.

    Flagman won it in the end.
    Hey, I provided a pin-point cross, he just got on the end of it in the manner of Trevor Francis against Malmo!

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    Default Re: The Aitor Karanka Appreciation Thread

    [QUOTE=chriscl;2756403][QUOTE=Erik;2756375]
    Quote Originally Posted by carlosmerino View Post
    I wanted to know who was going to win the other thread argument.


    Hey, I provided a pin-point cross, he just got on the end of it in the manner of Trevor Francis against Malmo!
    You mean ‘stooping low’?
    Wouldn’t be the first on that thread.


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    No no.

    "Wunderbar as Bowyer stoops to conquer" was the Post headline after Cologne....

    By "relegation battle", do you mean 7th, 12th or 14th?

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