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    Default Summer 2018 transfer window

    Too soon? Nah, it's never too soon for a transfer topic. Let the games begin.
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    Very Colback and Tomlin are probably 10m, 2m for Figueiredo, a striker or 2 is required, and at least 1 more Cb and a further Lb unless Benny is going to be the backup (if Fuentes is 1st choice and good enough) we probably need a pacey winger aswell, and a Dowell replacement.



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    Seen as you have my quote il start, Cb will probably be Dawson which suits me, striker wise id be willing to go lower league Jack Marriott at Peterborough 19 in 32 or Danny Rose 14 in 29.

    Not to sure who we could get that is a pacey winger (Pereira maybe), or decent left back could be worth waiting to see who is released by the prem this summer.

    The loanees we have i dont think colback is doable but we should do everything we can to get Tomlin.


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    Grabben is another decent shout for a striker, 13 goals this season mainly fpr Sunderland who cant score, will be 31 and surplus for Bournemouth.


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    Colback on £40k a week is probably too rich for our blood, unless he fancies a pay cut.

    Tobias Figuerado will be a permanent signing also.

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    I think the two main things to figure out as quickly as possible is a) who goes and b) which of the loanees you want to keep (or try to keep).

    Some of the outgoing are pretty obvious: Evtimov, Henderson, Ward, Traore, Hobbs, Vaughan, Cohen, for example. Others are more or less debatable cases.

    As for the loanees you have, Figueiredo is yours (obligatory buying option), you need to decide what to do with Pantilimon (easily acquired if you so wish), Fuentes (technically not a loanee but still with a contract ending in the summer), and then there are the difficult cases: Colback, Dowell, Tomlin. Both Colback and Tomlin are keepers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    Both Colback and Tomlin are keepers.
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    Default Re: Summer 2018 transfer window

    Dowell's replacement is right under our noses in Tomlin.


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    Default Re: Summer 2018 transfer window

    I reckon one of Worrall/Brereton will be gone.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aitor Aitor A Puddycat View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Masuka View Post
    I reckon one of Worrall/Brereton will be gone.
    Unless Mr. Marinakis is prepared to sanction a big injection of money into the club, the departure of one of our two most valuable young players is pretty much nailed on, if nothing else than to fund the additional players we desperately need.


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    Seems to me like the priorities should be another good value but quality winger/AM type to add to Lolley, and a striker if an upgrade can be purchased, or at least a rotation/backup option for Brereton.

    Probably a left back and/or deep midfielder (who is good on the ball, whether box to box or more of a sitter - although if Karanka listens to Flagman and goes back to 4-4-2 we could even go for quite an attacking one!) if Colback goes back. And a 'number 10' if none of Dowell/Tomlin would be here, not that I'm against bringing back Grant and/or Clough necessarily additionally (but if we did go 4-4-2 then Clough suddenly becomes more viable as would any supporting striker/forward as we'd need one, or two general front runners who are skilful and mobile but also know where the net is....but anyway I don't think Karanka will go 4-4-2 lol!).

    Maybe another CB, and a goalie too.

    .....so that'll be Jack Butland, Raphael Varane, Sandro, Ander Herrera, Phillipe Coutinho, Eden Hazard and Aubameyang then! Only joking, I don't think we can quite afford them or persuade them to come to Nottingham. Shame, as we might be able to make the play-offs with those 6, just about (not being negative here lol - I'm hoping we can do that anyway!) and it might even allow us to field our best ever XI (again just about, arguably!).


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    Be nice to keep Pantilimon if we could.

    See how Darikwa gets on between now and the end of the season, if he does alright as part of a defence that doesn't concede for fun between now and summer then I could see Karanka sticking with him and Lichaj for RB

    Dawson seems nailed on, which I'm 'meh' about now, would've been a good addition in Jan to sure things up but I think there will be better options in the summer. That said I can see a fair shake up at centre back this summer, Fox may or may not get a new deal, Worrall I could quite easily see leaving if Burnley come back in and I'm not sure Mance will stick around either. I think we'll see a left footed CB come in along with Dawson. Honestly just adding Dawson to what we have isn't gonna be good enough imo.

    Left back is an issue. Can't say about Fuentes yet, he has until the end of the season to impress, I can't see him being here next season tbh. So we'll need at least one left back.

    Colback would be great to hold onto if we could afford it, sounds like he's desperate to get out of Newcastle and he's playing well here so perhaps he'd take a pay cut, we'll see, if not maybe Karanka will go back in for Clayton. Watson, Bridcutt, Guedioura make up the rest of the deep mids and to me that's up there with the best in the Championship.

    On the left I've no idea what will happen, maybe Lolley cutting in is the plan? Then there's McKay and Osborn, at this point I think McKay will be gone and I'm actually also not sure about Osborn, I want him to stay but I'm not sure he will.

    Number 10, hopefully Karanka can get his man Tomlin can have that role all day. Clough/Grant/ Osborn to battle it out for understudy?

    Right wing, Lolley playing as a winger, Cash keeping the role, Ariyibi to get another look? not sure about this position either think we'll see someone come in unsure whether it'll be a pacy winger or more of an inside forward as of now. With Cash competing.

    Striker, got to say I think one of Vellios or Murphy leaves, anyone else have a tiny feeling Murph might call it a day? Maybe not with so long to go on his contract but I do wonder. Brereton to stay and buy a proper finisher with a bit of pace in the Dwight Gayle kind of mould.


    Early days but for me the squad will be:


    GK: Pantilimon(*), Kapino, Smith

    RB: Lichaj, Darikwa(?)

    CB: Figueiredo, Worrall(?), Dawson(*), new left footer

    LB: no idea

    DM: Colback(*), Bridcutt, Watson, Guedioura

    LW: Lolley, Osborn(?)

    AM: Tomlin(*), Clough/Grant/Osborn(?)

    RW: New player, Cash

    ST: New player, Brereton, Vellios/Murphy(?)

    (*): would need to be made permanent/signed

    (?): not sure they'll still be around



    So I've got 8 new additions minimum, including turning the loanees permanent. But of course it'll depend on things like Fox/ Mancienne staying.


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    Default Re: Summer 2018 transfer window

    If we're bringing in Dawson it'll probably be another two year contract, which I'd be happy enough with. We need to sign Panty man permanently as well, looking quality.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kjetil Osvald's Cat View Post
    Seems to me like the priorities should be another good value but quality winger/AM type to add to Lolley, and a striker if an upgrade can be purchased, or at least a rotation/backup option for Brereton.

    Probably a left back and/or deep midfielder (who is good on the ball, whether box to box or more of a sitter - although if Karanka listens to Flagman and goes back to 4-4-2 we could even go for quite an attacking one!) if Colback goes back. And a 'number 10' if none of Dowell/Tomlin would be here, not that I'm against bringing back Grant and/or Clough necessarily additionally (but if we did go 4-4-2 then Clough suddenly becomes more viable as would any supporting striker/forward as we'd need one, or two general front runners who are skilful and mobile but also know where the net is....but anyway I don't think Karanka will go 4-4-2 lol!).

    Maybe another CB, and a goalie too.

    .....so that'll be Jack Butland, Raphael Varane, Sandro, Ander Herrera, Phillipe Coutinho, Eden Hazard and Aubameyang then! Only joking, I don't think we can quite afford them or persuade them to come to Nottingham. Shame, as we might be able to make the play-offs with those 6, just about (not being negative here lol - I'm hoping we can do that anyway!) and it might even allow us to field our best ever XI (again just about, arguably!).
    Hmm, having thought again about that probably even with those 7 signings it'd take not only Lolley exceeding expectations (upon signing and/or after the second half vs Reading) and Watson exceeding his (or namesake Steve, as a bechmark for all-action but skilled ginger midfield players!) own career best form, but the Clough-esque conversion of Cash into England's greatest ever right back and the realisation Tobias will prove better than Larry Lloyd not only at running a pub or part-time co-commentary but at being an obstruction to opposition attackers too (even though Larry isn't in the line-up below due to game chosen):

    I was thinking based on clicking as a team and being on form that the current 'best ever XI' fielded might feasibly go back pre-Trevor Francis and the line-up for Man Utd away in late 1977 seems a good call, but it still seems a tough one to challenge even if we were taken over by Microsoft and FFP was abolished:
    Shilton; Anderson, Needham, Burns, Barrett; O'Neill, McGovern, A.Gemmill, Robertson; Woodcock, Withe
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    Default Re: Summer 2018 transfer window

    If Colback is too expensive then we don't want to be a Prem club.

    As part of the recent switch & drive to make us one I fully expect his signing (or players of that calibre), and fully expect EM to carry the can and fund any resulting wages.

    No issue with the slow rebuild way being scrapped if we commit to that. But by committing to it we need to buy quality, and do so without taxing fans for that choice or selling off youth to cover it.

    There's been proven ways to get around FFP. Now he's made the choice to push on EM has to embrace it, and cover the costs of it too.

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    hope Fuentes can quickly get himself up to match fitness and establish himself in our problem area. if we have to sell one of our youngsters, soi be it. nigel doughty always intended the academy to be self substaining.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    Grabben is another decent shout for a striker, 13 goals this season mainly fpr Sunderland who cant score, will be 31 and surplus for Bournemouth.
    or we could go back to the algerian striker we were linked with - El Arbi Hillel Soudani. even though his club doesn't want to sell and who can blame them for the amount of goals he has scored for them but he has been making noises about missing out on on playing in england so who knows who could happen between now till the summer. having geddy at our club would also helped sell the club to him.

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    I'm a bit of am optimist, but I depending on how many of the current lot staying, I don't think we need massive changes. Probably 4/5 incomings of the right quality and we could be a real threat.

    That said, there's question marks on quite a few. like Pants/Colback/Tomlin if they'll end up staying.

    Pantillimon appears like he'd be available permanently if wanted.
    Colback will be available, but depends on his demands.
    Tomlin, you never know with Warnock. But seeing as Cardiff paid £2.9m, we'd probably have to pay something similar.
    Toby looks like there's been a deal agreed anyway.

    I think we'll see Tomlin and Toby end up staying for sure. Pants will probably depend on what impact Kapino has on AK. I have a feeling Colback will be earning too much.

    We've got a few we should move on too. Including Hobbs, Cohen (retires), Fox, Dejagah, Vaughan, Evtimov, Vellios, Bouchalakis. There's a few others who I would, but might not be easy too.

    Then imo we need a left-back, experienced CB, Wide player with direct pace and a striker.

    Hopefully Yates will make a positive impression.

    It's hard to say who we'll go out and target. If we can't get Soudani, I like someone we've previously been linked with, Nikos Karelis, he's got that build where he's fast but powerful, really good technique and plays that wide role where can come inside and really drive with the ball. We need that in this side, pace, power and drive. Counter attacking is going to be an important facet of our game.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marshal99 View Post
    or we could go back to the algerian striker we were linked with - El Arbi Hillel Soudani. even though his club doesn't want to sell and who can blame them for the amount of goals he has scored for them but he has been making noises about missing out on on playing in england so who knows who could happen between now till the summer. having geddy at our club would also helped sell the club to him.
    Hes more of a winger than striker (making his goals even better)


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    Starting 11:

    Smith
    Lichaj Toby *New* *New*
    Watson Colback
    Lolley Osborn McKay
    Brereton

    Backup:

    Smith
    Darikwa Mancienne *New* *New*
    Guedioura Bridcutt
    Cash *New* *New*
    Murphy

    Moving on Fox, Vaughan, Cohen, Vellios, Ward, Traore. Selling Worrall for the £££ to afford the 6-7 players we need. Four defenders, two more advanced midfielders, one striker.

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    Just looking back at that first team, I'm not convinced it's good enough for a top six fight.

    Brereton and McKay are risks due to inconsistency. Smith is still young and was replaced at the drop of a hat. Also a question of height again - that's a tiny side.

    Maybe move Osborn and McKay to the "backup" side and look at bringing in a number #10 with a bit more physicality (Tomlin?) and a left winger who can be a bit more consistent?

    God knows, big job on for Karanka.


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    Default Re: Summer 2018 transfer window

    Just been announced that EFL clubs are following the Premier League and the Summer Window will close before the first game of the season.


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    Sky Sports have corrected the above. Window will close 9th August which falls in line with the Premier League. So could be a couple of games after the start of the EFL season.


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    Great stuff. Now just get rid of the January window and we're sorted.


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    I imagine Daws will come on a free and reckon AK will want Tomlin and Pantilimon too.

    Colback earns too much surely? Would be a massive statement of intent if we signed him though, especially with Watson, Guedioura and Bridcutt already under contract.

    I’d loan a left-back for the season or get an experienced one from the Prem if they become surplus to requirements (Charlie Daniels?). Defence would be ok then but wouldn’t be at all surprised if Worrall was sold for big money so probably need one more centre-half.

    I’d like to see McKay in a better team but it looks bleak for him. We should chuck Cardiff Traore, Ward and some cash for Tomlin to replace Dowell.

    Then get a good winger and striker and hope that Clough, Grant, Yates etc. step up in pre-season.


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