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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryde Red View Post
    I still reckon we should try and get Dawson back......
    The Hull Daily Mail weren't too impressed with his performance last Saturday. Guess we'll see if he's still got it when he's got Benny B leading him a merry dance.

    Michael Dawson sub-par

    There was plenty of torrid performances on Saturday, but as the captain and one of the most experienced players on the field none were as pathetic as Michael Dawsonís.

    The one senior professional in a defence littered with loanees, Dawson has steadied the ship well in recent weeks, leading by example and installing a degree of organisation into an otherwise vulnerable defence.

    He did anything but, though, on Saturday. He struggled to cope with the pacey Joel Asoro all afternoon as time and time again the young Swede showed the veteran up, so much so that Dawson darenít go near him at times.

    The striker escaped Dawson to squeeze in the only goal of the game in the first half and after being booked for a lazy challenge, he can count himself lucky not to have seen red as Asoro went down in the area.


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    Quote Originally Posted by J'Psycho'C66 View Post
    The official FIFA rule says:



    Sounds as though he's buggered, the only big case I can see is Javier Mascherano when he went to Liverpool from West Ham and had also played for Corinthians that year but the Brazilian league competes January - December so FIFA ruled him eligible for Liverpool.
    If I was Burke, I'd be pushing my agent for a move to Brazil then!


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    Quote Originally Posted by psychohasyournumber View Post
    Been told we're interested in Danny Ward Liverpool G.K, anyone else hear anything?.
    Itís all gone very quiet other than speculation and rumour.

    I did hear a muttering about Ward but then the whole Warburton/Karanka thing happened.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roonaldo View Post
    The Hull Daily Mail weren't too impressed with his performance last Saturday. Guess we'll see if he's still got it when he's got Benny B leading him a merry dance.

    Michael Dawson sub-par

    There was plenty of torrid performances on Saturday, but as the captain and one of the most experienced players on the field none were as pathetic as Michael Dawsonís.

    The one senior professional in a defence littered with loanees, Dawson has steadied the ship well in recent weeks, leading by example and installing a degree of organisation into an otherwise vulnerable defence.

    He did anything but, though, on Saturday. He struggled to cope with the pacey Joel Asoro all afternoon as time and time again the young Swede showed the veteran up, so much so that Dawson darenít go near him at times.

    The striker escaped Dawson to squeeze in the only goal of the game in the first half and after being booked for a lazy challenge, he can count himself lucky not to have seen red as Asoro went down in the area.
    Frank and honest journalism should always be welcomed, but ".....none were as pathetic as" seems a bit extreme for a local paper hack. I can't imagine Paul Taylor or the bloke who covers the Sadpies for the Post being as forthright in their description of an individual player's performance; mainly because of the need to maintain a reasonably cordial relationship between the paper and the club, more especially from the paper's standpoint.

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    I am actually reassured by the lack of any real speculation and general gossip as to who we might be targeting.

    It gives the impression we are going about our business in a professional manner, rather than the Fawaz era when people's second cousins were posting stuff on Twitter alluding to being in the know.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Emcee View Post
    I am actually reassured by the lack of any real speculation and general gossip as to who we might be targeting.

    It gives the impression we are going about our business in a professional manner, rather than the Fawaz era when people's second cousins were posting stuff on Twitter alluding to being in the know.
    Vrentzos does have a reputation for everything being quiet and a few signings pop up out of nowhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Rzarecteh View Post
    Vrentzos does have a reputation for everything being quiet and a few signings pop up out of nowhere.
    Keeping a tight lid on transfer preparations is a good thing, provided that transfers are eventually concluded.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    Kyriakos Papadopoulos at the age of 16 was a freak of nature. I have never ever seen a player so strong that opponents who crushed on him literally bounced back as if they had hit a wall. We sold him too soon perhaps, he went to Germany, he learned to play as a DM as well, but his style was also so recklessly physical that he has suffered a very long line of serious injuries. Among other things he has dislocated his shoulders several times and his knees often give up on him.

    I don't think he will play football on a very high level for long, despite being only 25.
    One thing is for sure, Greece knows how to produce good centre-backs. I see another joined Arsenal recently.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanRoy View Post
    One thing is for sure, Greece knows how to produce good centre-backs. I see another joined Arsenal recently.
    Mavropanos could very well become the next Manolas. Very strong, excellent in tackling, not bad with the ball at his feet, scores a lot with headers. Still a bit rough around the edges obviously, but great material to work with.

    We were on the verge of signing him for 800K euros (which is a relatively high price for a 20-year Greek from a small club), but then Wenger stepped in with his more than 2m.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    Mavropanos could very well become the next Manolas. Very strong, excellent in tackling, not bad with the ball at his feet, scores a lot with headers. Still a bit rough around the edges obviously, but great material to work with.

    We were on the verge of signing him for 800K euros (which is a relatively high price for a 20-year Greek from a small club), but then Wenger stepped in with his more than 2m.
    What do you reckon to Anastosis Donis mate?

    Iíve seen him play for Stuttgart a few times and he looks a proper tricky young forward.

    I didnít realise until someone told me, he was actually born in Blackburn in England, when his Dad Giorgios was playing for Blackburn Rovers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscl View Post
    What do you reckon to Anastosis Donis mate?

    I’ve seen him play for Stuttgart a few times and he looks a proper tricky young forward.

    I didn’t realise until someone told me, he was actually born in Blackburn in England, when his Dad Giorgios was playing for Blackburn Rovers!
    I haven't seen much of him to have a clear opinion. In a couple of games with the national team he was impressive, not only because he was pacy and scored, but more so because of the tenacity with which he chased all balls and pressed defenders relentlessly.

    He looked like the kind of forward who would be useful either with a bigger body next to him, or in counter-attack. I don't think he could play in the wings. Sort of the definition of a secondary striker.

    But I cannot judge someone from two games.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    I haven't seen much of him to have a clear opinion. In a couple of games with the national team he was impressive, not only because he was pacy and scored, but more so because of the tenacity with which he chased all balls and pressed defenders relentlessly.

    He looked like the kind of forward who would be useful either with a bigger body next to him, or in counter-attack. I don't think he could play in the wings. Sort of the definition of a secondary striker.

    But I cannot judge someone from two games.
    we wont judge you for it - we often do it from just two lines in the NEP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Unity View Post
    we wont judge you for it - we often do it from just two lines in the NEP
    TWO lines? A headline does me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanRoy View Post
    One thing is for sure, Greece knows how to produce good centre-backs. I see another joined Arsenal recently.
    Incidentally, I read that Mavropanos' contract is for roughly 10,000 euros a week at Arsenal. He earned something like 400 a week at his previous team.

    We've all had a raise of that magnitude, right?


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    i'm perplexed, i wonder how good Forest are, maybe AK is thinking we are a better side but sort of under performing?

    so no need for stack of panic buys which usually happens this time of year

    i think 2 or 3 good signings maybe 1 during this window, i'm worried about loans, think they will hold us back in the long term

    but even though we have signed absolutely noone it's almost certainly for the better as sort of instilling confidence in the current squad to prove themselves

    i think the training/drills/philosophy of MW has provided a good foundation for AK to take things forward

    i think loans however good would only be any benefit if it got us promotion or we'd definately be able to sign them, otherwise could be self destructive in long term

    overall ok with no signings, though surreal as this is AK 47 signings in 2 years, weird


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    besides a LB it seems certain that you'll get a CB, an guy in the front line (either AM or ST) and very possibly a DM/CM.

    i will be very surprised if you won't get someone from spain or france. EM and Olympiacos in general have really good liaisons with managers in these two countries and i believe they will exercise these to get someone. Budgets for players from UK are looking hilarious to my eyes. There is no vfm in there. So, it looks straightforward that they'll have to sign players from other markets.

    there is still one week to go. if you got Hult then there is a week for another 3. one player per two/three days. piece of cake. we had two/three players per day during several transfer windows.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    Incidentally, I read that Mavropanos' contract is for roughly 10,000 euros a week at Arsenal. He earned something like 400 a week at his previous team.

    We've all had a raise of that magnitude, right?
    Can't blame him for the move but I just wonder how much football he is going to get.


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    Quote Originally Posted by karteo View Post
    besides a LB it seems certain that you'll get a CB, an guy in the front line (either AM or ST) and very possibly a DM/CM.

    i will be very surprised if you won't get someone from spain or france. EM and Olympiacos in general have really good liaisons with managers in these two countries and i believe they will exercise these to get someone. Budgets for players from UK are looking hilarious to my eyes. There is no vfm in there. So, it looks straightforward that they'll have to sign players from other markets.

    there is still one week to go. if you got Hult then there is a week for another 3. one player per two/three days. piece of cake. we had two/three players per day during several transfer windows.
    There is so much talent in those two countries at decent prices.

    Karanka said as much that they will look to Spain in the future. Probably once head of recruitment and scouts are on the go properly.

    I do hope we increase our scouting network in France. So much talent there. I see we were linked to a young CB (17) that Lyon just signed 2 days ago from a small club which is a good sign.


 

 

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