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    Quote Originally Posted by MaxiRobriguez View Post
    That's a board failing.

    We shouldn't have to completely overhaul the squad every 12 months because a new manager wants to set us up in a completely different manner.

    The board should either give the man they've hired and given resources to longer, or they should replace him when the time comes with a manager of the same ilk who can take the squad as it stands and do more with it because the approach is similar.
    How long have we been saying this on here? Years.
    It’s a pity neither of our last owners seemed to have grasped it, yet. Or in Marinakis case, whoever he has put in charge of recruitment.


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    One thing none of us can say if and when Sabri goes is that he didn’t have his own team or he inherited O’Neil’s squad


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    We could do with a keeper.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor_82 View Post
    We could do with a keeper.
    Bizarrely, I doubt many if any of these signings are "keepers"

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    Quote Originally Posted by MXJ View Post
    Only because of the numbers of players, not the wages individually.

    We’ve been repeatedly told there is a wage structure in place that we won’t break for Colback etc
    I'd sooner us break the structure for better players like Colback, than load up on average players for the same outlay.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post
    I'd sooner us break the structure for better players like Colback, than load up on average players for the same outlay.



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    That’s the point I was making


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    With so many organization, manager changes, new players over the past few years I have to say I wouldn’t even hazard a guess as to the state of the squad and our chances of getting in the top 6 this season. Every new manager is an unknown particularly those from Europe we have mostly never heard of, so here we go again. In recent years many of these new players from outside the UK have not played in The Championship and it is a crapshoot who will make it, our success rate has to be very low. I am a bit brain dead to be honest and even find it difficult to utter a cheer or anything when we score a goal now.
    Still, I’m Red Till I’m Dead so will watch every game and continue to follow my team even if it means getting up at 4.00am here, in the morning for the Leeds game.


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    Curious this wage 'limit' in a dressing room. Players must know and realise that some are better than others and some are vital to the success of the team so should not be upset that these stars are paid more than them.

    The theory that there should be a wage cap might be sensible from the economic point of view, but from the structure of the team it seems an odd idea.

    Another case of the two sides of the club (administrators v. playing staff) in many cases failing to find common ground.


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    Quote Originally Posted by valspoodle View Post
    Curious this wage 'limit' in a dressing room. Players must know and realise that some are better than others and some are vital to the success of the team so should not be upset that these stars are paid more than them.

    The theory that there should be a wage cap might be sensible from the economic point of view, but from the structure of the team it seems an odd idea.

    Another case of the two sides of the club (administrators v. playing staff) in many cases failing to find common ground.
    There will definitely be some disparity across the team, not everyone is going to earn the same. But big differences in salaries, especially when someone already at the club his a key player, then a new player walks in on substantially more. Whether it should or shouldn't, it 100% puts noses out of joint, which results in fractions in the squad.

    That's exactly what happened at Derby. They had a core of lads, like Bryson, Russell, Keogh... etc. They were loved by all at Derby, they'd go into town and get smashed and the locals would love it. Bryson had an amazing goal scoring season. Then they spend big, splashed out some big wages, and it put those guys' noses out of joint, performances suffered and so did team morale. I'd say they only just managed to get that back last season.


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    Do they all know what the others in the team earn?


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    Quote Originally Posted by valspoodle View Post
    Do they all know what the others in the team earn?
    That's all they talk about I'd imagine, not the brightest fellows.


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    Lots of negativity when the window closed. How are people feeling now??


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    Quote Originally Posted by tjhooker View Post
    Lots of negativity when the window closed. How are people feeling now??
    Still concerned how light we are upfront, hopefully we can make it to January without anything happening to Grabban and pick up a striker then.

    Otherwise, things are looking pretty decent so far. Early days yet, but the new recruits (especially in midfield) look good and I am interested to see how the side develops after the international break.


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    Talking of that break, are many of ours likely to go off to games? Can't keep up with the nationalities and their status.


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    Quote Originally Posted by valspoodle View Post
    Talking of that break, are many of ours likely to go off to games? Can't keep up with the nationalities and their status.
    I cant keep up wi the names.


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    Quote Originally Posted by valspoodle View Post
    Talking of that break, are many of ours likely to go off to games? Can't keep up with the nationalities and their status.
    Surprisingly I think it's only Muric (and maybe Pantilimon/Milosevic).

    They are either just too old for U21 football now (Carvalho, Ribeiro, Worrall, Figs, Mir) or haven't declared nation (Samba, Semedo).


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    Default Re: Current state of the squad

    Based on the tough games on paper, I am optimistic for the season, as we've competed better than I thought we would. Still a long way to go but I feel happy with how the first handful of games have gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez the Killer View Post
    Based on the tough games on paper, I am optimistic for the season, as we've competed better than I thought we would. Still a long way to go but I feel happy with how the first handful of games have gone.

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    Getting a win and 2 draws away to 3 of the top 5 teams is promising for sure. Need a backup to Grabs though. But these results don’t flatter to deceive at all unlike some other starts to the season, this team seems to have some genuine fight. Looking forward to the season now.


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    Sod this.

    Why are you all looking at it that we did well to getting 5 points from 3 of the top 5 teams?

    How about you all get a set of bollocks and realise that they were bloody lucky to get 2 points out of us?

    Because they were.


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    Default Re: Current state of the squad

    One word for this squad - Sound


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryde Red View Post
    One word for this squad - Sound

    I'd even go for:

    Strong.

    Maybe it's another false dawn, but at last we look like a big, tough side that can impose itself on the opposition first, then go on to show the delightful attacking stuff.

    Decent start after some tough fixtures, and a sense of more to come if we can avoid injuries.


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    I think we all know that the signings have given us some height and physical presence in midfield which we were lacking but all this could go up in smoke if Grabban gets a knock,let’s hope we are sorting a quality striker out for the next window in January


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    I think the only way we’ll invest in a quality striker, is if we are in for a genuine chance of promotion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ashley View Post
    Still concerned how light we are upfront, hopefully we can make it to January without anything happening to Grabban and pick up a striker then.

    Otherwise, things are looking pretty decent so far. Early days yet, but the new recruits (especially in midfield) look good and I am interested to see how the side develops after the international break.
    Yeah about right.

    I was happy we were more balanced, but disapointed we didn't land Colback or strengthen up front. What we're seeing now is almost a fully fit side hold it's own, and that's great.

    Colback's miss might be covered, we'll see as Bostock gets up to speed, but if Grabs gets a knock I'm not convinced Mir's enough to fill in. Hopefully he doesn't & we get through to Jan & land a good, young striker of potential, who can chip in throughout but is also fine having some bench time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanRoy View Post
    Like I did with the under 23s.

    1.Daryl Murphy 15 March 1983
    2.Michael Dawson 18 November 1983
    3.Luke Steele 24 September 1984
    4.Ben Watson 9 July 1985
    5.Adlene Guedioura 12 November 1985
    6.Costel Pantilimon 1 February 1987
    7.Yohan Benalouane 28 March 1987
    8.Claudio Yacob 18 July 1987
    9.Hillal Soudani 25 November 1987
    10.Lewis Grabban 12 January 1988
    11.Liam Bridcutt 8 May 1989
    12.Karim Ansarifard 3 April 1990
    13.Michael Hefele 1 September 1990
    14.Tendayi Darikwa 13 December 1991
    15.Apostolos Vellios 8 January 1992
    16.Alexander Milosevic 30 January 1992
    17.Joe Lolley 25 August 1992
    18.Jack Robinson 1 September 1993
    19.Tobias Figuieredo 2 February 1994
    20.Ben Osborn 5 August 1994
    21.Jordan Smith 8 December 1994
    22.Jorge Grant 19 December 1994
    23.Gboly Ariyibi 18 January 1995
    24.Zach Clough 8 March 1995
    25.Jason Cummings 1 August 1995
    26.Tyler Walker 17 October 1996
    27.Joe Worrall 10 January 1997
    28.Joao Carvalho 9 March 1997
    29.Matty Cash 7 August 1997
    30.Ryan Yates 21 November 1997
    31.Arvin Appiah 5 January 2001
    Update to post #2217

    1. Michael Dawson 18 November 1983
    2. Ben Watson 9 July 1985
    3. Yohan Benalouane 28 March 1987
    4. Albert Adomah 13 December 1987
    5. Lewis Grabban 12 January 1988
    6. Samba Sow 29 April 1989
    7. Tendayi Darikwa 13 December 1991
    8. John Bostock 15 January 1992
    9. Alexander Milosevic 30 January 1992
    10. Carl Jenkinson 8 February 1992
    11. Chema Rodriguez 3 March 1992
    12. Sammy Ameobi 1 May 1992
    13. Joe Lolley 25 August 1992
    14. Tiago Silva 2 June 1993
    15. Jack Robinson 1 September 1993
    16. Tobias Figuieredo 2 February 1994
    17. Brice Samba 25 April 1994
    18. Jordan Smith 8 December 1994
    19. Tyler Walker 17 October 1996 (ON LOAN TO LINCOLN)
    20. Joe Worrall 10 January 1997
    21. Yuri Ribeiro 24 January 1997
    22. Joao Carvalho 9 March 1997
    23. Rafa Mir 18 June 1997
    24. Matty Cash 7 August 1997
    25. Alfa Semedo 30 August 1997
    26. Ryan Yates 21 November 1997
    27. Arijanet Muric 7 November 1998
    28. Jayden Richardson 4 September 2000 (ON LOAN TO EXETER)
    29. Arvin Appiah 5 January 2001
    30. Brennan Johnson 23 May 2001
    31. Alex Mighten 11 April 2002


    DEFINITE BOMB SQUAD

    1. Daryl Murphy 15 March 1983
    2. Luke Steele 24 September 1984 (ON LOAN TO MILLWALL)
    3. Costel Pantilimon 1 February 1987
    4. Claudio Yacob 18 July 1987
    5. Liam Bridcutt 8 May 1989
    6. Michael Hefele 1 September 1990
    7. Gboly Ariyibi 18 January 1995
    8. Zach Clough 8 March 1995
    9. Jason Cummings 1 August 1995

    * Would put Benalouane here but not 100% where he stands. He may be contracted beyond the end of this season if that Italian report is true. Others like Pantilimon, Hefele & Clough are definitely contracted till 2021.


 

 

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