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    Quote Originally Posted by marshal99 View Post
    "Best fullback in the division" ? That's pure hyperbole.
    To be fair that's because he didn't say it - you did.

    He said :

    "Against a very good and quick player in Gunter, who is easily one of the best fullbacks in the division"

    The important bit is in bold and he's not wrong - Gunter is one of the best full backs in the division.

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    Default Re: Matchday 44: Nottingham Forest v Reading

    Quote Originally Posted by redforest View Post
    Do you really think we are going to lose against Ipswich or QPR? Unfortunately 2 draws might not be good enough - still think the game v Ipswich will be party time
    Do you genuinely think that both games are won before a ball has been kicked in anger.

    After Huddersfield too many people thought the outcome of the Blackburn game was already decided.

    Amazing how short some people's memories are.

    We've achieved nothing yet.


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    Meh he's ok but certainly hasn't stood out like Mings or Odubajo in the past couple of years. Think we did well to get 2m for him...


    ... Especially as that money has never run out.

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    Reading through the thread nowt more to say which aint already been said, other than I hope that gives people a glimpse of what we could be seeing here if Warbs is given time & backing.

    But again that's gunna require not going shandy when we go on a bad run.

    Quote Originally Posted by thehockleyhustler View Post
    Well done for ignoring so called experts like Birtles who advised to scrap the passing football to gain more points.

    Warburton is slowly building something here and we have already seen teasers of what is to come. Next season could be huge if he gets what he wants this summer.

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    That's bang on, and it's be nice if the pundits gave Warbs some breathing room to make that happen.

    Hope people don't start expecting next year to be huge though. In the very likely scenario we stay up every year should be just about finishing higher & rebuilding. Even if that's a few places higher, we've got to get a grip and start realizing what progrssion actually is.

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    Default Re: Matchday 44: Nottingham Forest v Reading

    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    To be fair that's because he didn't say it - you did.

    He said :

    "Against a very good and quick player in Gunter, who is easily one of the best fullbacks in the division"

    The important bit is in bold and he's not wrong - Gunter is one of the best full backs in the division.
    I'm just glad we've kept back some of the money we raised when we sold him. We'd be screwed FFP-wise without it.


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    Default Re: Matchday 44: Nottingham Forest v Reading

    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    To be fair that's because he didn't say it - you did.

    He said :

    "Against a very good and quick player in Gunter, who is easily one of the best fullbacks in the division"

    The important bit is in bold and he's not wrong - Gunter is one of the best full backs in the division.
    It still applies , is gunter one of the best full backs in the divisiom ? He's not the worse but he is hardly one of the best either. He's the same at forest. Like jack hunt , better attacking than defending.


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    Default Re: Matchday 44: Nottingham Forest v Reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-ugginblowupyourbakery View Post
    Reading through the thread nowt more to say which aint already been said, other than I hope that gives people a glimpse of what we could be seeing here if Warbs is given time & backing.

    But again that's gunna require not going shandy when we go on a bad run.



    That's bang on, and it's be nice if the pundits gave Warbs some breathing room to make that happen.

    Hope people don't start expecting next year to be huge though. In the very likely scenario we stay up every year should be just about finishing higher & rebuilding. Even if that's a few places higher, we've got to get a grip and start realizing what progrssion actually is.
    Fawaz's reign has been a lesson in regression. Slow but definite.
    We need the next few years to grow things the other way. It will take time. Please let's hope that Fawaz and the idiotic section of our fanbase have learned their lesson.

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    Default Re: Matchday 44: Nottingham Forest v Reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Cortez the Killer View Post
    Fawaz's reign has been a lesson in regression. Slow but definite.
    We need the next few years to grow things the other way. It will take time. Please let's hope that Fawaz and the idiotic section of our fanbase have learned their lesson.

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    Default Re: Matchday 44: Nottingham Forest v Reading

    Quote Originally Posted by marshal99 View Post
    It still applies , is gunter one of the best full backs in the divisiom ? He's not the worse but he is hardly one of the best either. He's the same at forest. Like jack hunt , better attacking than defending.
    Agree with this. I detest Gunter and have since he let Jamie Ward go round him and score while Cohen lay writhing in pain at the other end. Shambolic defending and just soft play. Ward should have been put into the 3rd row of seats before he ever got to the penalty area.


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    Default Re: Matchday 44: Nottingham Forest v Reading

    Quote Originally Posted by marshal99 View Post
    It still applies , is gunter one of the best full backs in the divisiom ? He's not the worse but he is hardly one of the best either. He's the same at forest. Like jack hunt , better attacking than defending.
    We are talking about the second division. Even the best full backs in this division have a bunch of weaknesses which is why they are playing at this level and not the one above it.

    I'd say it would be incredibly tough to think of 10 better full backs in the league than him. We aren't in a league stuffed with amazing, high quality full backs so he doesn't have to be great to be one of the best in the league. But he is one of the best in the league and has consistently proven it with his performances in an excellent Reading side that he currently captains.


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    Default Re: Matchday 44: Nottingham Forest v Reading

    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    We are talking about the second division. Even the best full backs in this division have a bunch of weaknesses which is why they are playing at this level and not the one above it.

    I'd say it would be incredibly tough to think of 10 better full backs in the league than him. We aren't in a league stuffed with amazing, high quality full backs so he doesn't have to be great to be one of the best in the league. But he is one of the best in the league and has consistently proven it with his performances in an excellent Reading side that he currently captains.
    For me Gunter is a bang average Championship full back - and hence with 48 full backs playing in any one week I could find a few more than 10 ahead of him...


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    Default Re: Matchday 44: Nottingham Forest v Reading

    Quote Originally Posted by RedRobbo View Post
    For me Gunter is a bang average Championship full back - and hence with 48 full backs playing in any one week I could find a few more than 10 ahead of him...
    I'd say you'd be reaching and plucking names just to prove a point.

    I am not even a big Gunter fan, I don't think he's very good either, but you don't have to be great to be amongst the best players in the second division. There's some thoroughly mediocre full backs plying their trade in the Championship, several of them at the City Ground

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    Default Re: Matchday 44: Nottingham Forest v Reading

    Gunter is easily one of the best in the Championship, as has been said no-one in the Championship except the likes of Amavi and Pinto are Premiership quality. If he's good enough to play in a European Championship semi-final then he can't be that bad!


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    He's not good enough for Nottingham Forest.


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    Default Re: Matchday 44: Nottingham Forest v Reading

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-ugginblowupyourbakery View Post
    He's not good enough for Nottingham Forest.
    No shame in that.


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    Default Re: Matchday 44: Nottingham Forest v Reading

    Worrall being coached for a season or two by David Weir will help him.
    A no nonsense defender himself who thinks about the game and has played at a decent level.

    Just need to make sure we sign McParland up.


 

 

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