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    Default Re: Going to hell in a handbasket.

    Also, blocking workers from using more eco friendly mass transit isn't sending out the right message?

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    Default Re: Going to hell in a handbasket.

    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Sounds like we need to ban people, then?
    The extinction is of us anyway. The earth will survive, thrive even once we're gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joao CarvAndy!ho View Post
    The extinction is of us anyway. The earth will survive, thrive even once we're gone.
    More than 99% of the species that have ever existed are now extinct, so a few more makes no real difference to the planet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    More than 99% of the species that have ever existed are now extinct, so a few more makes no real difference to the planet.
    but that 99% of extinctions happened over 4 billion years.

    More time passed between the extinction of the Tyrannosaurus Rex and extinction of the Steggasoaurs than passed between the extinction of the Steggasoaurs and the arrival of Homosapiens.

    Only the very early primitive extinctions, where phages went rampant and smothered almost everything to extinction, was just one species responsible for the extinction event. All other extinctions were a response to an exogenous shock.

    I'm not a fan of eco-austerity, I think human-progress can engineer a way out this (but it means challengeing capitalism) but the science is very stong on what's happening.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redemption View Post
    but that 99% of extinctions happened over 4 billion years.

    More time passed between the extinction of the Tyrannosaurus Rex and extinction of the Steggasoaurs than passed between the extinction of the Steggasoaurs and the arrival of Homosapiens.

    Only the very early primitive extinctions, where phages went rampant and smothered almost everything to extinction, was just one species responsible for the extinction event. All other extinctions were a response to an exogenous shock.

    I'm not a fan of eco-austerity, I think human-progress can engineer a way out this (but it means challengeing capitalism) but the science is very stong on what's happening.
    I'm not denying the science. Dont know where you got that idea from. I was responding to a post about this from the Earth's perspective and the fact is life on the planet has survived bigger catastrophes in the past.

    I agree that technology/progress is our best hope. Eco austerity is a non starter. Tell 2bn people in India and China that they can't raise their standard of living...

    Also, many of the 'eco austerity' seem to have a different agenda which is anti humanist and 'garden of eden' pseudo religious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    XR protestors learn that the East End is a bit different to central London...

    Spectacular own goal.

    Hitting mass transit isn't the answer.

    Hopefully XR will learn from this and focus their attentions elsewhere.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Spectacular own goal.

    Hitting mass transit isn't the answer.

    Hopefully XR will learn from this and focus their attentions elsewhere.
    Think it’s safe to say, they won’t try that again!

    Public transport should be promoted, not inconvenienced.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Think it’s safe to say, they won’t try that again!

    Public transport should be promoted, not inconvenienced.
    I think they want everyone to stay at home and weave baskets or something.

    Whilst holding their breath, obviously.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Think it’s safe to say, they won’t try that again!

    Public transport should be promoted, not inconvenienced.
    Spectacular own goal!


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    Hell hath no fury like a mildly inconvenienced London commuter


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    Default Re: Going to hell in a handbasket.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey View Post
    Hell hath no fury like a mildly inconvenienced London commuter
    This man knows the score.


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    Don't mek them Londoners bi late fer wok thulbi ruptions !

    Most got arfa grand minimum to fork out a week just for the roof ova their hovels.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raymondo Ponte' View Post
    Don't mek them Londoners bi late fer wok thulbi ruptions !

    Most got arfa grand minimum to fork out a week just for the roof ova their hovels.
    & they can’t get gravy on their chips


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    Default Re: Going to hell in a handbasket.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Yates View Post
    & they can’t get gravy on their chips
    their chips are wet enough from all the piss on 'em


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    So much for willy-waving.

    More like selfish dickheads.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...figures-reveal


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    Default Re: Going to hell in a handbasket.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    So much for willy-waving.

    More like selfish dickheads.

    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...figures-reveal

    4 in 10 cars sold in China are SUVs.
    3 in 10 cars sold in India are SUVs.

    There’s the rise in SUV emissions.


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    Default Re: Going to hell in a handbasket.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    4 in 10 cars sold in China are SUVs.
    3 in 10 cars sold in India are SUVs.

    There’s the rise in SUV emissions.
    Fair comment but Indias car sales are puny for such a huge population, comparable to the UK.


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    Default Re: Going to hell in a handbasket.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Fair comment but Indias car sales are puny for such a huge population, comparable to the UK.
    What's the cheapest leccy car on the market pal? Possibly in the market for a new car so will go have a look. Whats the second hand markermt like in em? Sat next to a Tesla yesterday in traffic, lovely car would love one of them but bit out my price range.

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    Default Re: Going to hell in a handbasket.

    Fucking hell mate, you'll have to give me 24hrs pal, didn't manage to get to sleep last night and the brain ain't up to answering all your questions right now, but I have seen it and will respond tomorrow.


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    Default Re: Going to hell in a handbasket.

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    What's the cheapest leccy car on the market pal? Possibly in the market for a new car so will go have a look. Whats the second hand markermt like in em? Sat next to a Tesla yesterday in traffic, lovely car would love one of them but bit out my price range.

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    Cheapest is the Smart; but that’s only got two seats so won’t be any use to you?

    Nissan Leaf might be worth a look, but Keith is probably more up on current models than I am (I just know a bit about their propulsion systems and some of the driver-assistance stuff).


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    Default Re: Going to hell in a handbasket.

    Methane emissions around München during the Oktoberfest are ten times that of the City of Boston:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...e_iOSApp_Other

    Must be all those Bier-farts.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    What's the cheapest leccy car on the market pal? Possibly in the market for a new car so will go have a look. Whats the second hand markermt like in em? Sat next to a Tesla yesterday in traffic, lovely car would love one of them but bit out my price range.

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    VW are bringing out their new range of electric vehicles in the spring.
    The models have 3 specs, and the top spec is >£40k, and is therefore in the luxury car RFL bracket.
    And guess what?
    In the UK they are only releasing the top spec!
    2nd hand market is embryonic at the moment but I personally wouldn't touch anything more than 3 years old as the battery replacement is a biggish cost.
    And you never know how far from replacement the battery is!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    What's the cheapest leccy car on the market pal? Possibly in the market for a new car so will go have a look. Whats the second hand markermt like in em? Sat next to a Tesla yesterday in traffic, lovely car would love one of them but bit out my price range.

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    VW are bringing out their new range of electric vehicles in the spring.
    The models have 3 specs, and the top spec is >£40k, and is therefore in the luxury car RFL bracket.
    And guess what?
    In the UK they are only releasing the top spec!
    2nd hand market is embryonic at the moment but I personally wouldn't touch anything more than 3 years old as the battery replacement is a biggish cost.
    And you never know how far from replacement the battery is!
    This link takes you to a helpful article about dos and donts of buying a 2nd hand leccy.


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    Default Re: Going to hell in a handbasket.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Sinister View Post
    Unless you only do short urban trips the Tesla is the only one worth buying.

    Electric cars wont be a viable option until the range is 200+ miles.


 

 

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