Welcome to the LTLF Forest Forum.
Page 3 of 8 FirstFirst 12345 ... LastLast
Results 51 to 75 of 191

Thread: Armand Traore

      
  1. #51
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Sheffield
    Posts
    2,764

    Default Re: Armand Traore





    Dem sleeves...


  2. # ADS
    Circuit advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Location
    Advertising world
    Posts
    Many

  3. #52
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    3,128

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Well, this came out of nowhere.


  4. #53
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Wits' End
    Posts
    6,058

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-Hasawi View Post
    I do think Monty's taking an approach which as a footballing unit for the club makes little sense - personally I would have looked for a manager who saw the defence as fairly set in stone due to the fact that it performed well last year -
    I share your reservations going forward, its too early to tell which way this is gonna go. That said, I see the motive in reshuffling our defence given its inability to contribute out wide, and its poor distribution from the back.

    I agree we were defensively solid, but if its at the expense of anything going forward, things need to change.


  5. #54
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Location
    SHAQUE D'AMOUR
    Posts
    8,394

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-Hasawi View Post
    Then again we may have just made another niave appointment which has absolutely no idea how to create an effective championship side, and spend another year chasing our tails kidding ourselves we'll get anywhere near as good as Billy
    Are you still attending the counselling sessions?


  6. #55
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Nottingham
    Posts
    16,606

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    The pitch is looking nice


  7. #56
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2005
    Posts
    6,313

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Montanier does seemed to like his full-backs to have lots of pace. At arsenal ,Wenger has said that Traore was 3rd only behind walcott & vela for speed over a 40 metres sprint in his squad.
    http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footba...henrys-3368956


  8. #57
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Trent End
    Posts
    7,054

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by MASE View Post
    I share your reservations going forward, its too early to tell which way this is gonna go. That said, I see the motive in reshuffling our defence given its inability to contribute out wide, and its poor distribution from the back.

    I agree we were defensively solid, but if its at the expense of anything going forward, things need to change.
    We haven't had any attacking threat from fullback positions for a while. Jokic was effective going forward and he isn't even a proper attacking fullback.

    It suggests a more narrow formation we will play with fullbacks bombing on, which is the best way to play (in my opinion).


  9. #58
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2012
    Location
    London
    Posts
    9,103

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    I'm glad we're getting in attacking full-backs.

    Most of the better teams we saw at Euro 2016 had these types of full-backs.


  10. #59
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    4,819

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    I've said it for a long time, while Lichaj gives 100% and is good defensively, he doesn't offer enough going forward and isn't good enough on the ball to be considered a very good full back.


  11. #60
    Best served cold
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    Cliftonia
    Posts
    22,663

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-Hasawi View Post
    But I see that as a lack of direction from up top again, not Monty's fault nor any reason why his method's can't succeed.
    Think it's the opposite to that Alf.

    It is isn't the manager who is signing these players - it's the director of football. Monty's just the head coach. The new higher ups at the club seem to have a different, but strong, direction in mind and these signings are part of that, whether for good or for ill.

    "I've been blessed with many things in this life: an arm like a damn rocket, a c**k like a burmese python, and the mind of a f**king scientist" - Kenny Powers

  12. #61

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    It feels like PM is going for a strong core with pace down the flanks approach. Teams often have success in the Championship like that. Quite simplistic but can work well.

    Not sold on Traore as I am not a fan of his lack of games for a 26yr old. I believe in signing players who have proven they can handle long seasons (if they're not kids obviously)

    But here's hoping he can kick-start his career with us.


  13. #62
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Trent End
    Posts
    7,054

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by BryanRoy22 View Post
    I'm glad we're getting in attacking full-backs.

    Most of the better teams we saw at Euro 2016 had these types of full-backs.
    Name a top successful team without them!

    Pretty much every good side has them.


  14. #63
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Location
    Trent End
    Posts
    7,054

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    Think it's the opposite to that Alf.

    It is isn't the manager who is signing these players - it's the director of football. Monty's just the head coach. The new higher ups at the club seem to have a different, but strong, direction in mind and these signings are part of that, whether for good or for ill.
    He's not going to have absolutely no say in these signings. The manager is going to be in discussions all the time with PP.

    PP has made his way work elsewhere, I trust him to do the same here.


  15. #64

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    Think it's the opposite to that Alf.

    It is isn't the manager who is signing these players - it's the director of football. Monty's just the head coach. The new higher ups at the club seem to have a different, but strong, direction in mind and these signings are part of that, whether for good or for ill.
    Good shout. Ah the good ol modern DOF structure which yields all the answers

    So far it seems like we've signed a lot of unecessary signings based on mathmatical equations and little more. we'll see, I aint gonna judge anything before I've seen em play.

    “All the world will be your enemy, Prince with a Thousand Enemies, and whenever they catch you, they will kill you. But first they must catch you, digger, listener, runner, prince with the swift warning. Be cunning and full of tricks and your people shall never be destroyed.”

  16. #65
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2008
    Posts
    5,675

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    Of the 6 signings only two don't. That is not "most".



    I'm quite enjoying this low key and under the radar approach to signings, rather than the classic Forest approach of splurging millions on players and being favourites.
    Of the 6 signings only 2 DO don't they? Traore and Henderson. Vellios isn't really counted cos only couple of Blackpool games and lam, Perquis and pereira don't do they. So that's basically 4 that don't ie most.


  17. #66
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    694

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Maybe in some cases not having previously played in the championship is an advantage as they are an unknown quantity to the opposition? I'm sure there are many examples- but one that comes to mind Vydra- tore it up in his first ever season in this league and has subsequently been sussed out a little (was very average last season for Reading)


  18. #67
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    521

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    Think it's the opposite to that Alf.

    It is isn't the manager who is signing these players - it's the director of football.
    And you know this how?


  19. #68
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Location
    Derby
    Posts
    12,973

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-Hasawi View Post
    Good shout. Ah the good ol modern DOF structure which yields all the answers

    So far it seems like we've signed a lot of unecessary signings based on mathmatical equations and little more. we'll see, I aint gonna judge anything before I've seen em play.
    I think the new full backs are very attacking and suit Monty's style. Lichaj is not particularly attacking and in fairness Pinilios isn't fixed properly yet.

    PM also likes defenders and CBs who can play out from the back. Both Lam and Perquis are known for their technical ability on the ball.

    I therefore think these players have been chosen for their ability to play to Montanier's style.

    Whether this all works is really down to Montanier and the players. It does seem we are overstocked in defence but in fairness Pereira and Traore can play wing and Lam can play central midfield or full back so we shall see.


  20. #69
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2015
    Posts
    521

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-Hasawi View Post
    So far it seems like we've signed a lot of unecessary signings based on mathmatical equations and little more.
    You obviously don't have much confidence in the new management team. As for unnecessary signings - An experienced back up keeper to challenge de Vries. A right back to give Lichaj competition for his place. Traore to give options on the left. A young promising central defender/midfielder and a forward with the ability to play with his back to goal and bring others into play. I think it is called build up a squad to compete at this level or do you want to struggle again this season.


  21. #70
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2011
    Posts
    1,212

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Signing Armand is nuts...


    Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum using Tasword II


  22. #71
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Dec 2014
    Posts
    694

    Default Re: Armand Traore




  23. #72

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Fox View Post
    You obviously don't have much confidence in the new management team. As for unnecessary signings - An experienced back up keeper to challenge de Vries. A right back to give Lichaj competition for his place. Traore to give options on the left. A young promising central defender/midfielder and a forward with the ability to play with his back to goal and bring others into play. I think it is called build up a squad to compete at this level or do you want to struggle again this season.
    Nothing to do with confidence, I'm simply looking at what we have, what we've signed and if I ask myself the question "were players needed in those positions?". For me the answer is no. I can see reasons for signing them, but is that the best approach to maximize our squad value?

    This squad should not struggle. You're matchday 11 could be:

    DDV
    Lichaj Mills Manc Pinilos
    Osborn Vaughan Lansbury Cohen
    Britt Pato

    With these as backup.....
    Hobbs
    Burke
    Grant
    Ward
    Lars
    Blackstock

    Not saying we don't need to strengthen, but so many defensive players in so many areas which are well covered?

    I'm not even saying it's not right for us from a footballing POV, I'm just saying this is why we end up skint, with a demoralized squad, and the whole approach of changing tact AGAIN is another example of us u-turning in direction with no thought to tactical consistancy at the club.

    Last year's excercize in squad + wage trimming was totally pointless if we're going to bring in players in positions already well covered. How many players do we have who can cover left back now, Cohen, Piniloss, Fox, Traore, Manc, Lichaj - 6. Do we need that many? No.

    If the right players are sold then fair enough, but surely selling the better performing players from last year is a poor place to start a 2 year promotion push?

    Last edited by Alf-ugginblowupyourbakery; 29-07-16 at 15:23.

  24. #73
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    Wits' End
    Posts
    6,058

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Fox View Post
    You obviously don't have much confidence in the new management team. As for unnecessary signings - An experienced back up keeper to challenge de Vries. A right back to give Lichaj competition for his place. Traore to give options on the left. A young promising central defender/midfielder and a forward with the ability to play with his back to goal and bring others into play. I think it is called build up a squad to compete at this level or do you want to struggle again this season.
    Who knows, theres a good chance the full story hasn't played out.

    The flip side is a new direction from the manager that sees his new budget additions straight into the side to fulfil his ethos. At the expense of players like Mancienne, Mills, Lichaj & Lansbury who are out the door.

    Genius if it works with any degree of success, but if it backfires, we're fucked.


  25. #74
    oopsy daisy!
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Location
    On a longship close by
    Posts
    13,443

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-Hasawi View Post

    How many players do we have who can cover left back now, Cohen, Piniloss, Fox, Traore, Manc, Lichaj - 6. Do we need that many? No.
    Oh for the good old days when we went the best part of what seemed like three seasons without having anyone who could play there let alone competently


  26. #75
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Location
    Here, there & anywhere that will have me..
    Posts
    4,343

    Default Re: Armand Traore

    *Shamelessly nicked from Twitter (& i don't think I've seen it used yet)

    We were also going to sign his brother Aleg - but couldn't afford them both...

    The beast is stirring yet again!! :devil:

    it has nothing to do with football or NFFC

 

 

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •