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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbus View Post
    Trump's chickened out of coming to Britain - and it's Obama's fault.
    Obama so bad he's blamed for what Bush did.

    9/11 was an Obama job!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    Venezuela has "become" a shithole country....why would that be?
    Whiteness?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    ....and Trump is bringing plain speaking into politics.
    No, he's not. He's bringing lack of common human decency into politics.


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    All the deplorables who have been defending and justifying the 'straigh talking' language now look like dumbfucks since Trump denied using the language and claims he wouldn't use such base terms.

    Who do we believe?


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    No, he's not. He's bringing lack of common human decency into politics.
    Well if you believe that then you had better buckle up for a bumpy ride, because you are going to see "plain speaking" from politicians on both sides of the aisle. The days of politicians couching their lies in double-speak are over as are the days when politicians promise what they had no intention of delivering.

    I am having a good laugh at all these media sycophants talking up a possible President Oprah totally ignoring the fact that she was close to both Harvey Weinstein and Bill Clinton and knew exactly what was going down. Oprah would get destroyed in the hustings.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Unity View Post
    All the deplorables who have been defending and justifying the 'straigh talking' language now look like dumbfucks since Trump denied using the language and claims he wouldn't use such base terms.

    Who do we believe?
    "Early Friday morning he denied the derogatory language. “The language used by me at the Daca meeting was tough, but this was not the language used,” he tweeted,"

    I just love the way you are following Trump's every move. You are a bigger fan than I am.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    "Early Friday morning he denied the derogatory language. “The language used by me at the Daca meeting was tough, but this was not the language used,” he tweeted,"

    I just love the way you are following Trump's every move. You are a bigger fan than I am.
    So is he going to establish a religion? Trumpism?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    "Early Friday morning he denied the derogatory language. “The language used by me at the Daca meeting was tough, but this was not the language used,” he tweeted,"

    I just love the way you are following Trump's every move. You are a bigger fan than I am.
    The news might be a fan, I suspect they are. I just pay attention.


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    Quote Originally Posted by karteo View Post
    So is he going to establish a religion? Trumpism?
    If you want a laugh go and read the trolling that Oliver Wainwright's Guardian column on the new US embassy is getting on CiF. Some priceless jibes on there, and I am delighted to say the Guardian is not modding them out....yet.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Red Unity View Post
    I just pay attention.
    You are a Socialist, you pay fuck all for anything, you just want everything for free.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    The days of politicians couching their lies in double-speak are over as are the days when politicians promise what they had no intention of delivering.
    Well, he's replaced double-speak with outright lying, but the rest of it remains the same. Not an improvement in any way, is it ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD. View Post
    Well, he's replaced double-speak with outright lying, but the rest of it remains the same. Not an improvement in any way, is it ?
    So please explain Prof why Bush and Obama promised to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and didn't, whilst Trump said he would and did.

    It is not Trump who is the liar. That is why he keeps on winning.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    So please explain Prof why Bush and Obama promised to move the US embassy to Jerusalem and didn't, whilst Trump said he would and did.

    It is not Trump who is the liar. That is why he keeps on winning.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.5e92c472c339

    And what does he keep winning, exactly ? You're beginning to sound a lot like him ...


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    I have explained in a list I posted the other week of his achievements so far, and I am generally impressed by them. Should he do something I dislike I will say so.

    Did you see that Turkey is building a wall on their border with Iran?
    http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Tur...ng-2019-533351

    I don't see the Left throwing their toys over that? Hypocrisy much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    I have explained in a list I posted the other week of his achievements so far, and I am generally impressed by them. Should he do something I dislike I will say so.

    Did you see that Turkey is building a wall on their border with Iran?
    http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Tur...ng-2019-533351

    I don't see the Left throwing their toys over that? Hypocrisy much.
    I like the resemblance with erdogan. I couldn't condemn Trump more than you.

    Great job LJR.

    the only equivalent to Trump is an authoritarian antidemocratic emperor.

    Respect man.

    PS. Now, accusing the lefts for being in favor of erdogan is something that not even Trump could say, and he says serious bullshits


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    Quote Originally Posted by karteo View Post
    I like the resemblance with erdogan. I couldn't condemn Trump more than you.

    Great job LJR.

    the only equivalent to Trump is an authoritarian antidemocratic emperor.

    Respect man.

    PS. Now, accusing the lefts for being in favor of erdogan is something that not even Trump could say, and he says serious bullshits
    Building a wall or fence on your national borders is a security issue and not unusual....except it seems when Trump wants to do it. The UK is lucky it has the English Channel and thus THE WALL around the tunnel entrance is on the French side.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Professor Wolfgang Schnell BSc. PhD. View Post
    And what does he keep winning, exactly ? You're beginning to sound a lot like him ...
    And inevitably he'll be winning the "arguments" just like Trump is winning on everything.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    I don't agree George, whilst minerals were extracted, there was massive infrastructure built on the the profits. Just over 100 years ago Johannesburg was just wild bushland. Even before Apartheid ended in the 90s it was a first world city with better facilities than most European cities at the time. Yes there were poor townships around the periphery, but that is still true with most European cities even today.

    Never forget as well that as the colonial masters withdrew the countries resorted back to the tribal infighting that existed before colonialisation.

    What have the Romans ever done for us?
    Not so. Those colonised nations only had infrastructure put in because those colonising never thought they would leave and made their lives a home from home, after the land had been pillaged and little was left or the natives became bold enough to rise up, did nations such as ours leave. What was left was a hollowed out shell and little cash to even think about maintaining the infrastructure. Its going on now, China are building highways in third world countries to remove precious minerals. Those countries think the roads are a fantastic deal, but they will be left with very little income to maintain them when China has exhausted those minerals, leaving China to laugh all the way to the bank


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    Building a wall or fence on your national borders is a security issue and not unusual....except it seems when Trump wants to do it. The UK is lucky it has the English Channel and thus THE WALL around the tunnel entrance is on the French side.
    Not unusual? Most borders between most countries aren't walled. There are hundreds of thousands of miles of "open" botders all over the world.
    The UK also borders the Republic of Ireland. No wall there. Not even manned border crossings.





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    There's so much more useful stuff that America needs than a border wall across nearly 2,000 miles of land.


    - The American health care system is an absolute shambles compared to every other developed nation.

    - There's a massive student debt crisis that could easily be resolved and remedied with any money that might go to a wall.

    - Thousands of cities across America still have dangerous levels of lead in their water supplies including several massive cities like Philadelphia and Chicago.

    - The basic road and infrastructure gets a grade of D and many bridges are in danger of collapsing.

    And let's also not forget that the all great and mighty new tax plan you advocate is estimated to punch a massive $1-1.4 trillion hole in the deficit which most likely means the few benefit plans America actually has are going to take a massive hit. Oh, and that huge spending on the US military which outstrips the next nine nations combined. America doesn't need a wall as there are far more pressing issues that need that money.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    Building a wall or fence on your national borders is a security issue and not unusual....except it seems when Trump wants to do it. The UK is lucky it has the English Channel and thus THE WALL around the tunnel entrance is on the French side.
    Not unusual to you and to the attention freak named Trump

    For the rest of the modern and democratic world it is unusual.

    The thing is that USA has fucked many countries in the world which couldn't build a wall to keep USA away for security reasons.

    They have just bombed with aeroplanes and missiles and have invaded so many countries that no wall could save them

    Usa saying things about security with all this army, spies, satellites, mechanisms to watch communications and people all over the world

    If USA wanted to solve the problem has too many ways to do this without the wall.

    I seek for your reasoning and I beg you to think once and not swallow whatever this guy says.

    He is an attention freak and builds the wall just for this even if he knows that it will solve nothing and will cost too much.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barbus View Post
    Not unusual? Most borders between most countries aren't walled. There are hundreds of thousands of miles of "open" botders all over the world.
    The UK also borders the Republic of Ireland. No wall there. Not even manned border crossings.
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    So why has the WALL and SECURITY FENCING around the channel tunnel entrance and road leading to it been beefed up in the last few of years....at Britain's request and cost I believe.

    According to the Guardian:

    "The latest Channel disruption came as the (then) home secretary, Theresa May, committed an extra £7m in UK government funding to help increase security at the Channel tunnel’s railhead at Coquilles."

    If you are going to preach morality Barbus...then get your ducks in a row.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Juif Rouge View Post
    So why has the WALL and SECURITY FENCING around the channel tunnel entrance and road leading to it been beefed up in the last few of years....at Britain's request and cost I believe.

    According to the Guardian:

    "The latest Channel disruption came as the (then) home secretary, Theresa May, committed an extra £7m in UK government funding to help increase security at the Channel tunnel’s railhead at Coquilles."

    If you are going to preach morality Barbus...then get your ducks in a row.
    How am I preaching morality?
    Where does morality come into this discussion?
    My point about Trump's wall isn't that's immoral but that it is a massive waste of money, it's potential effectiveness has been questioned, and has been mentioned above, there are so many better things the money could be spent on.
    But back to my post, I think my ducks were very much in a row; most borders in the world AREN'T walled, so yes it is unusual.
    And the UK does share an open border with another country as I stated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MansfieldRed View Post
    There's so much more useful stuff that America needs than a border wall across nearly 2,000 miles of land.


    - The American health care system is an absolute shambles compared to every other developed nation.

    - There's a massive student debt crisis that could easily be resolved and remedied with any money that might go to a wall.

    - Thousands of cities across America still have dangerous levels of lead in their water supplies including several massive cities like Philadelphia and Chicago.

    - The basic road and infrastructure gets a grade of D and many bridges are in danger of collapsing.

    And let's also not forget that the all great and mighty new tax plan you advocate is estimated to punch a massive $1-1.4 trillion hole in the deficit which most likely means the few benefit plans America actually has are going to take a massive hit. Oh, and that huge spending on the US military which outstrips the next nine nations combined. America doesn't need a wall as there are far more pressing issues that need that money.
    A border wall is being used as a bargaining chip in my opinion, read Trumps book and see how successful business people negotiate.
    Health System absolute shamble eh? Try to get minor surgery in UK as fast then. I have experienced both and the US system is far superior in several ways even if you have nowt.
    Student debt, sure there is but why don't more of these kids get a job and help pay their debt instead of sponging on their parents. Also, not be influence by peers to go to fancy expensive colleges, then come home filled with Liberal hate.
    Lead, well you are conveniently forgetting this was exposed in the Obama reign and his government did nothing.
    Yes the roads need work, again the Obama government did not cough up but then states are responsible for upkeep and for instance, the California Democratic government have spent millions on a train from nowhere/middle of the desert to SanFran, mainly to carry migrants to be sure and spent ridiculous money on many social programs instead of improving the infrastructure. By the way do you know anything about the incredible retirement pensions democratic city councils put in place for themselves that is crippling the budgets of cities?? check that one out.

    At the end of the day when we compare this administration with the previous a difference is that the media is reporting the glass as half empty and not half full as it was under Obama.

    Wise up and read both sides of the situation and you will see Trump is doing more things for working people than ever Obama did.

    We can argue all day but that is my humble opinion from over the pond where we can get two sides to the story more easily than you.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SDRED View Post
    A border wall is being used as a bargaining chip in my opinion, read Trumps book and see how successful business people negotiate.
    Health System absolute shamble eh? Try to get minor surgery in UK as fast then. I have experienced both and the US system is far superior in several ways even if you have nowt.
    Student debt, sure there is but why don't more of these kids get a job and help pay their debt instead of sponging on their parents. Also, not be influence by peers to go to fancy expensive colleges, then come home filled with Liberal hate.
    Lead, well you are conveniently forgetting this was exposed in the Obama reign and his government did nothing.
    Yes the roads need work, again the Obama government did not cough up but then states are responsible for upkeep and for instance, the California Democratic government have spent millions on a train from nowhere/middle of the desert to SanFran, mainly to carry migrants to be sure and spent ridiculous money on many social programs instead of improving the infrastructure. By the way do you know anything about the incredible retirement pensions democratic city councils put in place for themselves that is crippling the budgets of cities?? check that one out.

    At the end of the day when we compare this administration with the previous a difference is that the media is reporting the glass as half empty and not half full as it was under Obama.

    Wise up and read both sides of the situation and you will see Trump is doing more things for working people than ever Obama did.

    We can argue all day but that is my humble opinion from over the pond where we can get two sides to the story more easily than you.
    Oh, I forgot the national debt - How much did it increase under Obama?


 

 

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