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  1. #76
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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    The bloke who was mainly viewed as responsible for this has piped up on the BBC today, to say he was a bit stitched up.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41092764

    He does seem aware of how poorly applied FFP actually is

    "I think we are already in danger of creating a closed league, through financial fair play," he says, referring to Uefa rules which generally mean clubs can only spend what they make, and break even.

    "It means there are five, six, clubs that are wealthy enough to dominate the Champions League over the next 20 years - the likes of Paris Saint Germain, Manchester City, Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich.
    "A Celtic or Ajax will never win the cup again, while the likes of AC Milan, Atletico Madrid, Juventus, and other historic big names are condemned to almost second tier status."

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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    It is back on the table again in another form....noses to the trough chaps.

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/41871546


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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    The first comment says it all:

    Or, we save the big teams playing each other for finals of major tournaments when it actually matters and give it a sense of special occasion? No? Ok then, quantity over quality it is.

    Noses to the trough it is.


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    Fuck em, bye.

    The FL will take a hit but once everyone's fed up of the overhyped, shit, can't lose games ending 0-0 and the ridiculousness surrounding it, the FL will grow and be the better competition. Oh and if any in a superleague wish to buy from the FL then there's a "proper" football tax added on.

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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    Am i missing something?

    LJRs link is for internationals not club games.


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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    One step on the ladder, "top" Euro teams will follow


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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. MariAndy!s View Post
    One step on the ladder, "top" Euro teams will follow
    UEFA wont let FIFA disrupt their premier competition.... without UEFAs clubs no competition can compete.

    Look at the club world cup... a chance of FIFA to get a part of the pie.

    Clubs win the premier league and celebrate that they have won the league and are in the champions league.

    Clubs win the champions league and are happy they have won the champions league.

    Its only when it gets to December and the club get a memo that they have to go to japan or Brazil that the club world cup gets a mention.


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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    This day was always coming.

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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    That’ll be the end of it, then.

    A “closed shop” League, no relegation, hoovering up all the best players and crucially, all the money.

    It’ll be like its American counterparts and any opposition will be crushed (like the USFL amongst others).

    Oh well. Football used to be good. At least Forest won stuff when it was a proper competitive sport with a fairly level playing field.

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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    Its all about FIFA wanting a slice of UEFAs pie.


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    Good.




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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Benali (on loan) View Post
    Good.

    Unfortunately if they do, the best players and all the money will go with them.


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    Good. As long as all the money goes with them it leaves a real sporting competition.


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    I'm all for it. Fuck off all the plastics to the glory league, turn the British league back into something good.

    Less shandy playboy millionares who sham out their tackles, more working class Stuart Pearce's who are worth every penny they get paid.

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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    Good Fuck off, as long as if it goes tits up you are not allowed back.


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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    The league would welcome them back with open arms, dont talk daft.


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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    The league would welcome them back with open arms, dont talk daft.
    Never said they wouldn't, but from my own perspective that would be a preferred scenario


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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Benali (on loan) View Post
    Good.

    So that all the remaining clubs would be reduced to the same level as Woking, and so they’d be in with a shout of winning the new English top division?

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    Let's go for a situation more like the one in American football - with the NFL and college football.

    Let the global brands like Chelsea and Man Utd play competitive matches in Beijing, Dubai and LA. It's their dream. They'll keep pushing until it happens anyway.

    The Football League made up of teams that stay put, can pull in thousands of local fans who couldn't give a hoot about any globally marketed footballing soap opera.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    So that all the remaining clubs would be reduced to the same level as Woking, and so they’d be in with a shout of winning the new English top division?
    Sunderland are not suddenly going start averaging 1,500.


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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Benali (on loan) View Post
    Sunderland are not suddenly going start averaging 1,500.
    Maybe not.

    But how many of those Sunderland die-yards are going to stick with a side that plays at League One/League Two level because the best players (and crucially - the money to pay them) has been siphoned off into the new Mega League () or whatever it’s called.

    You mention the US leagues - I brought up earlier the USFL, what happened to that upstart League (who owned the New Jersey Generals, by the way...) was a reminder of what happens when someone tries to challenge the established setup.

    The comparison between college sports and the NFL isn’t really relevant either of course (although I get where you’re coming from) as the college athletes are amateurs.


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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Benali (on loan) View Post
    Sunderland are not suddenly going start averaging 1,500.
    Exactly.

    I'm convinced that, if this happened, within five years the 'big' clubs that left would be looking for a way back into the domestic set-up. Not by giving up the world league riches of course, but I'm absolutely convinced that they (and more importantly their English fans) would miss the passion, rivalries and daily focus of domestic football. And I'd think twice about letting them in.

    Even without them we would have a great competition in this country. There are loads of massive clubs with gates of 30-50,000 that wouldn't be part of a world league. Anyone who thinks our game would be fundamentally undermined has fallen for the great Sky/EPL marketing machine that tries to make us think it (and especially the big six clubs) are the be all and end all.


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    Default Re: "Top" Clubs trying to form a super league again?

    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Benali (on loan) View Post
    Sunderland are not suddenly going start averaging 1,500.
    They averaged 13k in the 80’s. Take away the possibility of competing at the top level, and their fan base will drain away to even lower than that over time.

    We already have the lower leagues in this country for people who want to watch grass roots football, like the College leagues in the US. The attendances and viewing figures for the NFL dwarf those of the college leagues.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    So that all the remaining clubs would be reduced to the same level as Woking, and so they’d be in with a shout of winning the new English top division?
    Bradford City averaged 19k this season. Midtable div 3 and 55th best team in the country. How many of those onky turn up in the hope that they will soon be challenging Man city and Man Utd?

    Woking are now National League South. Bradford won't be going there either.

    Last edited by Francis Benali (on loan); 16-05-18 at 09:09.

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    In the eighties. Forest couldn't get 20k under Clough in the eighties. It had more to do with football's reputation as a spectator sport, stadium disasters, violence than whether or not tgey got to take a 5-0 hamnering every other week at the hands of a club in the race for Fourth.
    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    They averaged 13k in the 80’s. Take away the possibility of competing at the top level, and their fan base will drain away to even lower than that over time.

    We already have the lower leagues in this country for people who want to watch grass roots football, like the College leagues in the US. The attendances and viewing figures for the NFL dwarf those of the college leagues.



 

 

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