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    Expect the sexual abuse scandal to spread to Derby any day now.

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    Not fucking Derby. When you go there, it's like visiting the Stone Age.

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    They recently held a fans charter forum where Mad Mel was all talk again about expectation and creating pathways for their young talent.

    6. The Academy: How strong are the Club’s youth teams? Are we likely to see academy graduates in the next few years? What is the general jump from academy to league football?

    6.1 MM said the role of the academy was to nurture talent that created players of value who could go on to play for Derby County or elsewhere in the game professionally, as Will Hughes, Jeff Hendrick and Tom Huddlestone had done in the past.

    6.2 MM asked the group how important winning games was at academy level. MM agreed with JC that winning games was certainly less important than developing talent.

    6.3 MM noted that Will Hughes and Jeff Hendrick worked out because they were given a chance in the first team due to necessity. He stressed the pathway from the academy to the first team was crucial.

    6.4 MM said the academy had done a fantastic job at developing quality young players, but said the Club had not focussed enough on the final transition between the academy and the first team.

    6.5 He confirmed a member of staff had been appointed to further develop the relationship between the first team and the academy – with the specific brief of ensuring individual academy players were ready for first team action.

    6.6 He said more first team players had recently been involved at U23 level to help win more matches. This boosted confidence and offered the opportunity for young players to learn from experienced colleagues.

    6.7 SP said the pathway between the academy and the first team was now smoother thanks to new members of staff that had been recruited to specifically look after this transition.

    6.8 MM said the crop of young players coming through was very good and the Club was well

    on the way to being able to develop more for the first team.

    6.9 MM said there was enough time between now and the next two transfer windows to

    discover which academy players were ready to be introduced into the first team.

    6.10 JC asked MM if the talent was there and MM confirmed there was a great deal of quality throughout the academy.

    6.11 OB said it was much harder for academy players at Derby County to break through than at other clubs. He felt Will Hughes may not have made the transition into the first team if he was breaking through now. OB also noted that Nottingham Forest had been forced to introduce more academy players because of their recent transfer embargo.

    6.12 If there were no first team opportunities for young players, quality loan deals would be sought. MM also identified the facilities at the Derby Country Training Centre as second to none.

    6.13 GD asked if the first team coaches were joining in and helping academy players. MM said that first team coaches were observing and instructing academy coaches on how to develop individual players to add attributes that would be appealing to the first team.

    6.14 MM said academy players were tasked with clearly stating what their own objectives were and assessing their own performance against those set objectives.

    6.15 He estimated that there were 12-15 players with high promise in the academy, and the focus on this group would be intense to clear a pathway to the first team.



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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanRoy View Post
    They recently held a fans charter forum where Mad Mel was all talk again about expectation and creating pathways for their young talent.
    I dont see how a kid would fit in with Rowetts anti football philosophies.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I dont see how a kid would fit in with Rowetts anti football philosophies.
    Agree.

    I can only think of Demerai Gray at Birmingham as his best example yet as coming through their academy & possibly purchasing young Che Adams.

    Pretty sure Jack Butland and Nathan Redmond were before Rowett.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I dont see how a kid would fit in with Rowetts anti football philosophies.
    Hardly a style of football for the young and hungry to get excited about is it? Whereas Warbs on the other hand...


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    "OB also noted that Nottingham Forest had been forced to introduce more academy players because of their recent transfer embargo."

    Not sure we were forced to introduce any academy players as a result of the embargo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    "OB also noted that Nottingham Forest had been forced to introduce more academy players because of their recent transfer embargo."

    Not sure we were forced to introduce any academy players as a result of the embargo.
    I don't think we were, God knows, we signed enough bang-average players under the embargo-enforced "Free Agents no no more than £10k a week" rules.

    I'd prefer to think that our previous excellent work at Youth level had actually led us to being able to introduce players of genuine quality from the Academy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chriscl View Post
    I don't think we were, God knows, we signed enough bang-average players under the embargo-enforced "Free Agents no no more than £10k a week" rules.

    I'd prefer to think that our previous excellent work at Youth level had actually led us to being able to introduce players of genuine quality from the Academy.
    Id say Walker and Grant were forced as they clearly weren't ready.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Id say Walker and Grant were forced as they clearly weren't ready.
    Grant made his debut under Pearce and then barely played under DF and walker made his Debut in the same season, combined they only made 24 appearances and hardly any were as starters. So in reality its hard to say if the embargo did have much to do with them playing as they barely played.

    The others who made recent debuts from the academy:

    Cash impressed pre season under PM
    Burke, end of Embargo year after impressing at u23 level
    Worral, debut towards the end of the embargo.
    Iacovetti, debut under Pm
    Brereton was scoring for fun at u23 level debut under PM
    Osborn, well before embargo
    Evtimov, never really been 1st or 2nd choice.
    Mcdonagh 1 run out in embargo year.

    Cant think of a single academy grad that was played in the embargo year because of the embargo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    Grant made his debut under Pearce and then barely played under DF and walker made his Debut in the same season, combined they only made 24 appearances and hardly any were as starters. So in reality its hard to say if the embargo did have much to do with them playing as they barely played.

    The others who made recent debuts from the academy:

    Cash impressed pre season under PM
    Burke, end of Embargo year after impressing at u23 level
    Worral, debut towards the end of the embargo.
    Iacovetti, debut under Pm
    Brereton was scoring for fun at u23 level debut under PM
    Osborn, well before embargo
    Evtimov, never really been 1st or 2nd choice.
    Mcdonagh 1 run out in embargo year.

    Cant think of a single academy grad that was played in the embargo year because of the embargo.
    Walker was thrown off a cliff by dougal and is only just getting his career back together from it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Walker was thrown off a cliff by dougal and is only just getting his career back together from it.
    As bad as the football was under DF the worse thing he did was dig TW out for next to nothing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Id say Walker and Grant were forced as they clearly weren't ready.
    Neither of their debuts were related to the embargo. Both managers who gave them their chance just thought they were good enough, whether they were right or wrong. It wasn't because there was an embargo in place and thus they had no other option.


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    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    Neither of their debuts were related to the embargo. Both managers who gave them their chance just thought they were good enough, whether they were right or wrong. It wasn't because there was an embargo in place and thus they had no other option.
    I didnt mention debuts all i saw was players played when they werent ready.... the debuts are bye the bye it was the repeated hanging out to dry that was the issue... it certainly stunted Walkers development sending him out on a hiding to nothing to get bullied by a bunch of cloggers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    As I said before, our rival Panathinaikos are trying to sell out (very cheaply) as many players as possible in the January transfer window because they are on the verge of bankruptcy.

    Some of them are already being proposed to various Championship teams. Robin Lod, a Finn international, has been linked with Bristol and Wolves. A versatile midfield, but nothing special. In the positions you're looking for additions, I can think of two players. One is Rodrigo Moledo, a good Brazilian centre-back, aged 30, but I think he wants to return to Brazil. Another might be Nicklas Hult, a 27 year old Swedish left back, very pacy, and with a very good cross. If you're looking for a cheap option for a back-up for Traore, he is not that bad.
    Apparently, Derby County will offer 1m for Lod. It is a ridiculous amount of money, given the dire straits of Panathinaikos. They could easily have gotten him for half that amount.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    I didnt mention debuts all i saw was players played when they werent ready.... the debuts are bye the bye it was the repeated hanging out to dry that was the issue... it certainly stunted Walkers development sending him out on a hiding to nothing to get bullied by a bunch of cloggers.
    The quote was that we were forced to introduce them because of the embargo. You responded to a quote talking about us not being forced to introduce any by saying Walker and Grant were forced. Neither were forced in due to the embargo, they were given a chance because the managers rightly or wrongly thought they were ready.

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    Walker and Grant had impressed for the youth team and were given their chance. The fact it happened whilst we were under an embargo is largely coincidence in my view as we had enough of a squad at the time to be able to field a side without them. If anything we had too many makeweights on our books.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangerz View Post
    Walker and Grant had impressed for the youth team and were given their chance. The fact it happened whilst we were under an embargo is largely coincidence in my view as we had enough of a squad at the time to be able to field a side without them. If anything we had too many makeweights on our books.
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    Mad mel talks massive bollocks.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bangerz View Post
    Walker and Grant had impressed for the youth team and were given their chance. The fact it happened whilst we were under an embargo is largely coincidence in my view as we had enough of a squad at the time to be able to field a side without them. If anything we had too many makeweights on our books.
    Agreed. Both Pearce and Dougie repeatedly spoke about wanting to give younger players a chance. This is what happened with this pair.

    The idea from the Derby fella, that managers have been forced to introduce academy players because of the embargo doesn't stand up. During that period we still had a massive squad of players and were never in a position where we had to drag players from the academy as an emergency.

    Each player came through on their own merits naturally. Pearce, despite spending large sums always maintained that he wanted to bring through youth and Dougie kept on about his ethos and record of developing young players. The circumstances of the embargo didn't have any influence on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. MariAndy!s View Post
    I knew Rowett played crap football but that is taking the piss.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. MariAndy!s View Post
    The only fan they could find for a quote and his wife is a Forest fan who, under protest, would attend his funeral, but wouldn't wear a shirt.


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    The first one was good and the third had its moments.

    The last couple were shocking though. Bruce Willis is too old for the role.


 

 

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