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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Quote Originally Posted by adam09 View Post
    Ah Celtic, that renowned developer of world class talents.

    Burke and Brereton were raw. They would have improved here with more game time but as with a lot of young talent, money talks. I’m sure other clubs in Scotland know all about Rangers and Celtic taking their young talent as well.

    From what I’ve seen, Burke has barely changed since he left us and he struggled to even get into the Scotland side which says it all. What he needed to work on was mostly off the ball and the mental aspect of the game... which you get through experience. We all saw what he could do with the ball, that won’t change.
    Yup. 13m was an absolute masterstroke from Fazza.

    Best thing Burke could do is get his arse back here. He needs to be somewhere where he can comfortably shine, and at the mo that's at a club like ours.

    If the lad doesn't wise up & take a wage cut to start getting games he'll be on far less & walking the McGugan path soon.


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Maybe he’s just not really up to it which is a shame because he did look the business for those few weeks before Fazza flogged him & pulled the rug from under Monty


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Yates View Post
    Maybe he’s just not really up to it which is a shame because he did look the business for those few weeks before Fazza flogged him & pulled the rug from under Monty
    I liked Mr Cheese.

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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    The player Ollie was when he left us has been coached out of him


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    We need a new, rapid winger and he needs a club who'll love him. Makes sense.


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    I've always adopted the rule of "never go back there" but I dunno, imagine him and Lolley storming up the wings


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Hasn't it been said he is a striker now and not a winger?


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Burke's at WBA for another 3 seasons on a rumoured 1.6m/year wage.

    Can they afford to spend nearly 5m on a player who's involved so little? If he stays the duration his time there would have cost them 21m in total (minus loan contributions of course).

    Surely they have to be considering saving the wages & trying to claw back some cash?

    If he doesn't get serious game time soon he'll be going for very little in a year or two.

    Last edited by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos; 20-05-19 at 13:12.

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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Surprised no one has remarked on Ollie making the step up to legendary Scottish status after his last-minute goal versus the star-studded Cyprus.


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Quote Originally Posted by valspoodle View Post
    Surprised no one has remarked on Ollie making the step up to legendary Scottish status after his last-minute goal versus the star-studded Cyprus.
    It certainly was a giant killing by one of Europe’s weakest teams


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Quote Originally Posted by DapperDan View Post
    Hasn't it been said he is a striker now and not a winger?
    I don't think he's best suited with his back to goal. He is better out wide, IMO, facing up defenders and taking them on.


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    There's an article on the Post talking about him being poor at Celtic and going to Balotelli route

    https://www.nottinghampost.com/sport...oliver-2963864


    Also didn't realise that was his first goal for Scotland. After all the fuss our fans make about him I'd just assumed he'd scored a few for them already. The talent is there but I think he needs to go to a club who can afford to spend the time working with him, where here we need someone to hit the ground running ideally.

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    Sad that he's being compared to Balotelli. He should never be in such a position.

    When you think of the rage at selling him now, a Scotland one-goal wonder

    Would be in the best interests of both him & WBA to have him return to the CG. He needs to be in a place where he's comfy & appreciated, so he can continue to develop his game at a natural pace.

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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Wouldn't want him back, Alf. One of the problems here over the years is folks obsession with bringing back old players. It's like we refuse to just let go. He's gone, we need to spend our money more wisely on players who can come in and do a job now. Not someone who had a good month here once 3 years ago but has struggled ever since.


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    Wouldn't want him back, Alf. One of the problems here over the years is folks obsession with bringing back old players. It's like we refuse to just let go. He's gone, we need to spend our money more wisely on players who can come in and do a job now. Not someone who had a good month here once 3 years ago but has struggled ever since.
    Good players a good player for me mate. We need a winger in his mold, so I'd be open to it.

    If we can get better for less though fair enough. Wouldn't pay anything like we sold him for, which may make the whole thing unlikely anyway.

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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    I just wished he would've stayed with us. He was progressing nicely at a steady pace, looking absolutely phenomenal in the beginning of that Championship season. Cheers Fawaz.


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    I'd have him back no problem.


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-ugginblowupyourbakery View Post
    Good players a good player for me mate. We need a winger in his mold, so I'd be open to it.
    He's not been a good player bar that one August here, several years ago. You often criticise, rightly, the club not throwing money away on flash in the pan investments or romantic signings. That's what Burke is now. He's flopped at WBA, he flopped on his loan at Celtic and bar one lovely August 3 years ago, he's done nothing but fail to live up to the glimpses of potential we saw all that time ago.

    If he can't do well in at Celtic against such dreadful opposition why on Earth would we be bringing him back here? He's past the point of being one for developing and it's now a spin of the wheel to see if he'll settle anywhere. We need to be making smarter signings than this, unless its an absolute gift.

    Hopefully he can find his feet somewhere but unless it's a free transfer on low wages it seems like a waste of time and money.

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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Career ruined by going to Leipzig (different culture on top of everything else) at such a young age really.

    Yes he did tear up the division in that season and obviously had a lot of potential but it was only a few games and actually Fawaz getting such a good fee was the best move because he's done nothing since to suggest he's worth it.

    If people could forget the price tag then this would probably help. Or if WBA loan him out for the year to a lower Championship or L1 side to get a run of matches and confidence back.

    Comparisons with Balotelli are a bit OTT - Burke is a good player with a good attitude and just needs experience. Balotelli was a clown...


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Quote Originally Posted by Statto View Post
    Career ruined by going to Leipzig (different culture on top of everything else) at such a young age really....
    Based on a conversation I had with a work colleague who hails from Leipzig and is a supporter of Die Röten Bullen, the biggest problem Burke had there was a failure to integrate into the locality.

    He didn’t learn German or socialise with clubmates, which then proved a barrier to getting him playing time (bit difficult for a young player I guess if you don’t speak the lingo).

    He’s seemingly lost his way a bit.

    There’s still a player there, but he needs a sympathetic Manager who will believe in him and then give him time to rebuild his career. Not sure if NFFC is that club - at the moment, anyway.

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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Didn’t make one single start in the Championship last season which tells you everything you need to know. He’ll also be on massive wages relative to his level of contribution.

    If he wasn’t a Forest academy graduate and had played a handful of games for the first team in the past no one would be remotely interested in signing him.

    It only takes a second to score a goal.

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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Quote Originally Posted by incapable hulk View Post
    He's not been a good player bar that one August here, several years ago. You often criticise, rightly, the club not throwing money away on flash in the pan investments or romantic signings. That's what Burke is now. He's flopped at WBA, he flopped on his loan at Celtic and bar one lovely August 3 years ago, he's done nothing but fail to live up to the glimpses of potential we saw all that time ago.

    If he can't do well in at Celtic against such dreadful opposition why on Earth would we be bringing him back here? He's past the point of being one for developing and it's now a spin of the wheel to see if he'll settle anywhere. We need to be making smarter signings than this, unless its an absolute gift.

    Hopefully he can find his feet somewhere but unless it's a free transfer on low wages it seems like a waste of time and money.
    Like I said, I wouldn't go paying big money for him either. He's another potential loan target for me. Perfectly capable of giving this league a kick up the arse in our promotion season.

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    Default Re: Oliver Burke

    No

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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Why did he clock off? Either he's a greedy little basket or Fukwaz fukt iz career up.

    Least he can wipe iz hooter on 50 pound notes I suppose.


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    Default Re: Oliver Burke - reasons to be somewhat peeved

    Quote Originally Posted by Raymondo Ponte' View Post
    Least he can wipe iz hooter on 50 pound notes I suppose.
    It’s a hard life for the modern professional footballer Raymondo.

    Imagine all the back-injuries they pick up, simply lifting their wallets, or practicing their golf-swing?


 

 

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