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    I might be in the minority but I like flexible 433 system. IF we had a forward that could hold the ball up and have two good wingers who could take people on perhaps Antonio (if he stays) and perhaps Ollie Burke and then have a diamond formation in midfield with Osborn in the attacking role ala Paul Hart and then the defence including a new left back. Maybe look at the academy midfielderlike Jorge Grant.


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    I'd be curious to see if 3-5-2 could work. Two from Hobbs, Wilson and Mills with MM sweeping. Three in the centre of midfield as we often lose the battle there with the wing backs giving width. Antonio just behind Dex. The only concerns I'd have is if Antonio would lose effectiveness and who'd play right wing back, Osborn or Cohen (allegedly fit) on the left.


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    As long as we don't play Antonio as a wingback again!


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    He'll persevere with the 4-2-3-1, I'm sure.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTe View Post
    He'll persevere with the 4-2-3-1, I'm sure.


    Sadly correct


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    Quote Originally Posted by RedTe View Post
    He'll persevere with the 4-2-3-1, I'm sure.
    I hope we do. Been successful for us and many other teams. Best football under Billy played using that.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman Van Rompuy View Post
    I hope we do. Been successful for us and many other teams. Best football under Billy played using that.
    Most common formation in Europe but not the most exciting. Even less exciting when played with second rate players.


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    2-3-5.

    Back to the 1950s, and attack, attack, attack!

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    Any formation can be boring or exciting, hoof or tika-taka. 4-2-3-1 with Lansbury-Gardner then Burke-Ried-Antonio with Ass up front would be exciting. Stick a lump up front, Vaughan in midfield and it becomes shitter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand ShAndy! View Post
    Any formation can be boring or exciting, hoof or tika-taka. 4-2-3-1 with Lansbury-Gardner then Burke-Ried-Antonio with Ass up front would be exciting. Stick a lump up front, Vaughan in midfield and it becomes shitter.
    I think it has less to do with personnel and more to do with instructions.

    Chelsea's season summed this up perfectly with the different way their tam performed for the second half of the season after getting smashed by Tottenham. Fabregas played a different role and, as such, they had far fewer shots than their opponents.

    Results didn't really change but, if you'd watched much of Chelsea last season, you would know the entertainment value took a nosedive.


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    That's my point, play a lump up front and you tell your defenders to lump it uto him, you're not going to get vaughan to bomb into the box like HL or GG he'd just sit. I think, and it's looking more likely, that DF will be a safety first manager, he'll play 2 "pivots" hmwho sit and soak up pressure then use a lump and Antonio or a quick winger to hit teams on the break.


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    Default Re: Formation to play next season

    Although actually for a lot of DF's games he didn't really play 4231. It was more 433 with only one holding midfielder. Gardner would hold, Osborn playing as a CM, and then Lansbury the most attacking.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman Van Rompuy View Post
    Although actually for a lot of DF's games he didn't really play 4231. It was more 433 with only one holding midfielder. Gardner would hold, Osborn playing as a CM, and then Lansbury the most attacking.
    4-2-3-1 is also sometimes know as 4-3-3 defensive.


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    One without Fox, we should be ok..


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    Its not the formation that is the problem. Its the mardy arses lack of effort.


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    Hopefully we'll be shut of whoever doesn't want to be here so I'm hoping for some improvement in attitude.

    Playing narrow bores me a bit but so does lumping it to Antonio out wide every time we get the ball. Even when Burke was in space the opposite side, Darlow would keep smashing it to Antonio.
    I suppose a lot depends on what striker(s) is available or if we can bring one in.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stockers View Post
    One without Fox, we should be ok..
    Is Fox a Billy player, a Pearce player or a Dougie player? We have that many different factions, I've lost count.

    It must be seriously difficult for a player to adapt when he has something coached out of him by one manager and then another manager comes in six months later with a whole new philosophy. Clubs like Watford seem to hire like minded coaches and someone else buys the players.

    Formation for next season? 4-2-3-1. At least until Dougie gets the boot.


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    We first tried to loan Fox under Alex McLeish


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    If we play four at the back we're much more balanced with Fox at LB (nobody had more assists than him last season apart from Antonio) than shunting Lichaj over there and pretending MM is a right back.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvin Plummer View Post
    I'd be curious to see if 3-5-2 could work. Two from Hobbs, Wilson and Mills with MM sweeping. Three in the centre of midfield as we often lose the battle there with the wing backs giving width. Antonio just behind Dex. The only concerns I'd have is if Antonio would lose effectiveness and who'd play right wing back, Osborn or Cohen (allegedly fit) on the left.

    If you want to play an offensive 352 Pearce almost got it spot on. The Achilles heel was Antonio as left wing back. The rest had Lichaj Mancienne & Danny Fox as very mobile Centre backs.

    Todd Kane looked a very capable right wing back, Chris Burke does his best work in advanced positions but could get up & down if pushed.


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    Default Re: Formation to play next season

    The Arsenal proved today that Dougie's preferred 4-2-3-1 can be an irresistible attacking formation.

    Granted you need quality behind the "1".


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    Default Re: Formation to play next season

    Gardner won't be back. He'll be playing first team football for Villa next season.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Clarks Tash View Post
    Gardner won't be back. He'll be playing first team football for Villa next season.
    Didn't even make the bench today.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Clarks Tash View Post
    Gardner won't be back. He'll be playing first team football for Villa next season.
    He would have improved that team today. The Arsenal steamrolled them.


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    Dougies 4231 is an absolute minefield in my opinion.

    Especially when played on the counter attack. Two deep seated defensive midfielders. Two of the widest of wide men, one isolated central midfielder & a striker with his back almost exclusively towards goal. Hardly a recipe for cohesion.


 

 

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