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    Wrong to point out we didn’t need to leave the EU to sort this ? We outsource from around the world. We could have funded nurses bursaries without voting out
    I’d have gladly paid more tax to fund education in this country, even for Barry’s Mrs

    It’s been the constant cost of keeping taxes low
    Something has to give somewhere


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    My kids wont need an accountant or a lawyer at 3am but they might need a doctor or nurse one day at that time and if they do, I want one there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes' Organ View Post
    ...and if they have paid to train they are more likely to stay in post to be able to treat them. Reimburse that over a long period of time and they are less likely to fuck off abroad or into private practice. My pal has just emigrated to Australia on the back of his wife's medical skills obtained in the UK, Scotland as it goes so she won't have paid for the training and isn't helping your wife or kids.
    Jokes aside, theres gonna be folk raping this furlough scheme that arent entitled to the money... but imo that's just the sacrifice we as the collective have to make to ensure that genuine furloughed cases such as your own are paid. I view bumping up the numbers in the NHS exactly the same.

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    A couple of opinion pieces from today’s Guardian (yes, I know) showing that the pro-leave argument that British citizens can easily do jobs currently undertaken by immigrants, like picking fruit and veg, isn’t as simple as many think, and how those jobs are actually more skilled than you might initially believe:

    https://www.theguardian.com/environm...e_iOSApp_Other

    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...e_iOSApp_Other

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    It's my experience that nurses do have a habit of fucking off somewhere else.

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    Last edited by Lefkasman; 17-04-20 at 19:42.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    Jokes aside, theres gonna be folk raping this furlough scheme that arent entitled to the money... but imo that's just the sacrifice we as the collective have to make to ensure that genuine furloughed cases such as your own are paid. I view bumping up the numbers in the NHS exactly the same.

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    There's abuse of all government money both on the way in and out. I suspect that if everyone paid their way properly we'd be more than ok as a nation but whilst we have the likes of Amazon, Starbucks, that **** Branson et al allegedly raping us off shore it's ***** like us who'll be picking up the tab.
    On the furlough thing, I uttered the words that I never thought I'd say today "I can't wait to be back at work" , not working is really bad for your mental health, I don't know how people voluntarily do it.
    I don't object to training for the NHS being free at source on the strict understanding that it is reclaimable in full for at least 20 years to prevent the skills being taken out of the NHS and to stop it being the easy option for a university education.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes' Organ View Post
    I uttered the words that I never thought I'd say today "I can't wait to be back at work"
    Bet your wife said it way way before you did.

    Last edited by Sabri Natenagewitch; 17-04-20 at 19:57.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabri Natenagewitch View Post
    Only for expediency, your full name amongst the twaterati is Wankstain Lefty Brexitard Bollachops II, I don't have to tell you who is the first.


    They say you can never pick your own nickname, but that’s pretty much what I would pick I could.

    Robbie must be fuming to find out he’s my #2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sabri Natenagewitch View Post
    Bet your wife said it way way before you did.
    Wait until next week, she's working from home, I'm on furlough and the weather forecast is set fair.
    I reckon that my bollocks could be adorning her tabs by Wednesday.


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    Theres not one argument in the last few pages that we had to leave the EU to resolve. In or out doesn't matter to me anymore but pointing and shouting "look over there" while it's the ***** in this country stabbing you up the arse really pisses me off and is detrimental to the nation, whatever way you slice it.

    As for nursing bursaries, it should be both cheaper to do and more financially rewarding, do that and you can attract more people and create a higher standard, not just for those who can afford it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huxley View Post
    On the subject of Italy leaving, I can't see it happening. Especially after Conte called out Salvini and Meloni (far right pricks who are the ones wanting out) by name when he announced phase 2.

    Essentially he said this government looks Italians in the eyes and doesn't work in the darkness spreading lies and untruths like Salvini and Meloni.

    He got very popular after that.



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    It’ll be interesting to see which way the crisis pushes the dial. No doubt, La Lega strongholds are among the hardest hit by Covid, and the general tone deafness of the northern EU states to the plight of the south will seem very familiar. Conte is riding relatively high, but he’s not well liked. Pretty much every leader in Europe has seen their approval ratings go up in the last 4 weeks. That’s the nature of crisis.

    Then you have to factor in that M5S broke a foundational promise by making coalition with PD. Italy is profoundly broken in numerous ways, and people tend not to trust incremental solutions in such situations. I think UscItalia (really trying to get that to catch on) remains a very real possibility.


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    Uscitalia can't see it catching on.

    MS5 have been losing ground after both of their coalitions. Neither went well with certain parts of followers.

    The current contentious issue is the euro bond and how that plays out will effect what happens in the Italian parliament as there are very definite positions on it by all parties.

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    https://youtu.be/KIdE-P6v1ZU
    May as well drag this up.

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    Didn't take the government long to break its promise about refusing to open the UK up to American food regulations, did it?

    I can't wait to get tucked into my chlorinated chicken and have corn syrup injected into everything.

    I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Zeus View Post
    Didn't take the government long to break its promise about refusing to open the UK up to American food regulations, did it?

    I can't wait to get tucked into my chlorinated chicken and have corn syrup injected into everything.

    I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by congo_red View Post
    Makes me feel sick. Literally.
    But he promised again and again we have an "oven-ready deal, ready to go"? Surely he wouldn't lie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Zeus View Post
    But he promised again and again we have an "oven-ready deal, ready to go"? Surely he wouldn't lie!

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    Well I guess chlorinated chicken is oven ready...


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    It's going to be amusing watching people who have spent years claiming they just want to support British farmers now pivot to saying they always wanted to buy American farmers' trash, at least.

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    I suspect there will be a wave of ‘I’m buying British’ bravado...
    ...followed by a swift realisation that they actually want the cheap option.


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    But blue passports.

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    Quote Originally Posted by congo_red View Post
    I suspect there will be a wave of ‘I’m buying British’ bravado...
    ...followed by a swift realisation that they actually want the cheap option.
    The Americans usually insist on no labelling identifying where products are made as part of their trade deals, so sadly most people won't be able to find out until they're shitting their guts out.

    That's not going into the terrible conditions for the livestock that make washing them in chlorine necessary in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Zeus View Post
    The Americans usually insist on no labelling identifying where products are made as part of their trade deals, so sadly most people won't be able to find out until they're shitting their guts out.

    That's not going into the terrible conditions for the livestock that make washing them in chlorine necessary in the first place.

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    Can products still he labelled with origin such as British beef or New Zealand lamb?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes' Organ View Post
    Can products still he labelled with origin such as British beef or New Zealand lamb?
    I'm afraid I have no idea. I guess we'll find out what we voted for once the deal is finalised!

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    Just done a quick inventory of my immediate space (work station) and the only thing British made is the joint I've just rolled.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Zeus View Post
    The Americans usually insist on no labelling identifying where products are made as part of their trade deals, so sadly most people won't be able to find out until they're shitting their guts out.
    The price point should be a dead giveaway though?


 

 

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