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    I went to a charity event last night (Forever Stars - good cause and worth a like on Facebook!) with John McGovern, John O'Hare, Nigel Jemson & Dougie Freedman in attendance.

    Dougie did quite a lengthy Q&A which had some interesting questions and insights that I'll share on here. These are in no particular order so here it goes!

    When Dougie was offered the job Stuart Pearce was still on site and hadn’t physically left the club yet – that was how quick the appointment was made.

    Furthermore there were 3 managers Fawaz had formally arranged to talk to but after speaking to Dougie he pretty much offered the job straight away and cancelled speaking to the other two.

    Dougie has a lot of respect for Pearce and believes him to be a good manager. When asked why Dougie managed such a quick turnaround of results he said that the players said to him there were quite a lot of times when they were unsure of what they were supposed to be doing under Pearce and so he gave them simple instructions and roles and they’ve benefited from that.

    Mentioned that when he was a player he felt he did alright for Forest but probably not his best years. Said David Platt didn’t really give him a chance. Then when Dougie got the job at Forest he also said David Platt sent him a nice message saying congratulations and advised him not to make the same mistakes he did when managing us. Platt knows he did a poor job but was trying to make an impression at NFFC.

    He expects us to finish higher next season than this season but wouldn’t say whether this was playoffs or better. Certainly top 10.

    Thinks Gary Gardner is a very good player but he doesn’t want to build a team around a player we don’t own. He would rather promote from the academy. Said he’s spoken to Tim Sherwood who rightly so wants to assess all his players pre-season before deciding who can leave on loan/transfer.

    He loves working with younger players as they can adapt more and aren’t set in there ways. He says some older experienced players (not just at Forest) can be quite stubborn or think they know better. The most ‘challenging’ (said with a smile!) players to work with are Lansbury & Wilson.

    He thinks Jamie Paterson has a lot of talent but hasn’t been getting too many games because the rivals for his position have been performing well in his eyes.

    Says he would like to play an attractive style of football and explained some of the performances this season. For example against Bournemouth (he thinks they’re the best side in the division) he said they have been working on their style of play for 5 years and so it’s very refined and slick so he purposely set us up to restrict space in our half for them so that we could break into spaces left at the back by them. In games against teams where he felt we could compete (for lack of a better word) he pushed us to attack more and felt there was barely anything it between us and Watford for example.

    He says the days of traditional 4-4-2 are over and that it’s important the attacker and midfield can all contribute with goals and assists. He also said that seeing our strikers none of them have particularly great combination play between them whilst also stating that this is quite rare these days to see a strike partnership like Cole and Yorke or Shearer & Sutton.

    He said FFPs finer details are still being worked out and they are regularly in contact with the football league by email (the football league don’t like to have face to face meetings frustratingly!) for advice on various things NFFC can and can’t do now.

    Apologies for the long post, if I remember any more I'll add it in a follow up.


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    Thanks Brian. Some interesting answers as you say.

    Out of interest, where did it take place?


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    He comes across as an erudite and comprehensive manager. I think he'll do a lot of good for this club, if given the time.


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    Cheers for posting Brian. Good stuff from Dougie.

    Now Platt's admitted liability, can we sue the fish-faced c*nt for 13m?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Fantana View Post
    Platt knows he did a poor job but was trying to make an impression at NFFC.
    I'd say he succeeded..


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    ^Looking to make impression....made impression you have.


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    I think over 20k fans want to make an impression on Platt's face.


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    Thanks Brian. Interesting stuff.

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    Lansbury and Wilson the most challenging players to work with, who'd have thought that

    Very interesting, thanks for sharing.


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    Don't apologise for the long post Brian. I found it very interesting and good to hear the manager's views.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Fantana View Post
    he said that the players said to him there were quite a lot of times when they were unsure of what they were supposed to be doing under Pearce
    They were supposed to be trying. Even I knew that. I'm constantly amazed at players who, in midfield, don't come deep to get the ball when we're playing out. Even if you've been given instructions in swahili, it's 101 stuff. Ditto the hoofery. We know it doesn't work. You know it doesn't work. Stop it.

    Thanks for the write-up, real quality post. It's appreciated. I think the point about strike partnerships is interesting. We don't see many, no, but let's look at the last time England were a threat - Sheringham and Shearer. The last time we were a threat - Blackstock and Earnshaw (when they got a chance!). Before that, Harewood and Johnson. Before that, PVH and Campbell, Collymore and Roy. Sheringham and Clough. I don't think 2 centre forwards is the fashion anymore but a pairing of some sort up there is historically what gets us places. I'd also add that no two forwards ever get a run of games to develop a pairing these days, either, due to fixture congestion, form pressures, etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis Redd'un View Post
    Thanks Brian. Some interesting answers as you say.

    Out of interest, where did it take place?
    It was at the Village Hotel in Chilwell.

    John O'Hare and McGovern had some great stories to tell too.

    I'd imagine they've been heard before but O'Hare was saying he loved his time at Leeds whereas McGovern was saying he hated it - McGovern told how during games if he made a pass some of the Leeds players would purposely let it run out making it look like a bad pass. He also said Johnny Giles gave him 3 hospital balls in a single half - how petty those Leeds players were.

    McGovern also spoke about his lack of international games and said at one point it was because the Scotland manager didn't realise he was Scottish!

    McGovern is a great public speaker, really cares about the club and I'm pleased he's in this ambassador role.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Fantana View Post
    It was at the Village Hotel in Chilwell.

    John O'Hare and McGovern had some great stories to tell too.

    I'd imagine they've been heard before but O'Hare was saying he loved his time at Leeds whereas McGovern was saying he hated it - McGovern told how during games if he made a pass some of the Leeds players would purposely let it run out making it look like a bad pass. He also said Johnny Giles gave him 3 hospital balls in a single half - how petty those Leeds players were.

    McGovern also spoke about his lack of international games and said at one point it was because the Scotland manager didn't realise he was Scottish!

    McGovern is a great public speaker, really cares about the club and I'm pleased he's in this ambassador role.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AABNu6AgDNw

    He speaks about his time at Leeds and the Scotland story in this interview.


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    Some other tidbits I've remembered although I think he's mentioned things along these lines in various other interviews.

    He doesn't see a lot of Fawaz as he's been away for quite a lot of the season. McGovern mentioned this too.

    Andy Reid and Chris Cohen even if fully fit won't play a 46 game season next year. He say's they will be carefully managed including their intensity in training, if he can get 35 games out of Reid in particular he will be happy.

    He doesn't have a lot of love for agents, he will leave Leon Hunter to sort out the nitty gritty with them. He also said Hunter has a great knowledge of lower league players but currently due to FFP we're unable to spend!

    He said he has 4 or 5 names in mind to compete with Dorus for the goalkeeping position next season.

    He said we should be very happy with the academy and that he didn't want to name names due to egos but there are two players in particular in either the U16 or U17 (can't remember which) he really likes.

    He's aware Louis Laing has done well at Motherwell (He asked the guy who asked the question whether he was Laings dad!) and he'll be looked at pre-season.

    He's been to watch Tesche a couple of times at Brum, he didn't mention wages but he said that Tesche told him he wanted to be playing week in, week out and that's why he let him go.

    Absolutely rubbished the more recent Rhodes rumours, said he had try to sign him earlier in his career. He admitted he rang Bowyer but it was a very short conversation. The recent news articles is just paper-talk.

    Bit about last night here.

    http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottin...ail/story.html


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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Fantana View Post
    It was at the Village Hotel in Chilwell.

    John O'Hare and McGovern had some great stories to tell too.

    I'd imagine they've been heard before but O'Hare was saying he loved his time at Leeds whereas McGovern was saying he hated it - McGovern told how during games if he made a pass some of the Leeds players would purposely let it run out making it look like a bad pass. He also said Johnny Giles gave him 3 hospital balls in a single half - how petty those Leeds players were.

    McGovern also spoke about his lack of international games and said at one point it was because the Scotland manager didn't realise he was Scottish!

    McGovern is a great public speaker, really cares about the club and I'm pleased he's in this ambassador role.
    McGovern is fantastic , He does love Forest a great guy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha Fail View Post
    They were supposed to be trying. Even I knew that. I'm constantly amazed at players who, in midfield, don't come deep to get the ball when we're playing out. Even if you've been given instructions in swahili, it's 101 stuff. Ditto the hoofery. We know it doesn't work. You know it doesn't work. Stop it.

    Thanks for the write-up, real quality post. It's appreciated. I think the point about strike partnerships is interesting. We don't see many, no, but let's look at the last time England were a threat - Sheringham and Shearer. The last time we were a threat - Blackstock and Earnshaw (when they got a chance!). Before that, Harewood and Johnson. Before that, PVH and Campbell, Collymore and Roy. Sheringham and Clough. I don't think 2 centre forwards is the fashion anymore but a pairing of some sort up there is historically what gets us places. I'd also add that no two forwards ever get a run of games to develop a pairing these days, either, due to fixture congestion, form pressures, etc.
    I agree Alpha - I like to see a good strike partnership when both players are on the same wavelength. I loved that run of games when Huckerby, Johnson & Harewood were on fire. Was it against Gillingham we scored from a kick off with Huckerby?

    I felt Fryatt & Assomm had some good moments - I also think Blackstock would be a good partner for Assomm.

    Dougie said he hates to hear criticism from pundits of 'only playing 1 up front' at home and said depending on the system you might have more players attacking the box with 'only' one up compared to playing 3 strikers up top for example.


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    I never feel we really play well playing 442. Very few top teams ever play that


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    Did he talk about the other loaned players?


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    Quote Originally Posted by dogtits View Post
    Did he talk about the other loaned players?
    Yeah he said he'd killed Abdoun and dumped him in the Trent

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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman Van Rompuy View Post
    Yeah he said he'd killed Abdoun and dumped in the Trent
    Noooooooooooo


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    Quote Originally Posted by Herman Van Rompuy View Post
    Yeah he said he'd killed Abdoun and dumped him in the Trent
    Do the same with Lansbury and Wilson. Problem solved


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    Quote Originally Posted by OLDMANRED View Post
    Do the same with Lansbury and Wilson. Problem solved
    Don't forget to claim on the insurance though!

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    Cheers Brian, enjoyed reading that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brian Fantana View Post
    .........McGovern is a great public speaker,.......
    ......and mimic. Here he is doing Cloughie doing AC/DC's Whole Lotta Rosie:

    https://soundcloud.com/brookster-4/whole-lotta-cloughie


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgford_71 View Post
    Lansbury and Wilson the most challenging players to work with, who'd have thought that

    Very interesting, thanks for sharing.
    Strange that he made Lansbury captain and has waxed lyrical about him since coming here.


 

 

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