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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgford_71 View Post
    Come on Alex it's not quite like that, is it. Nobody wants to hear constant direct abuse to any individual during a game but this covers wolf whistling and the odd isolated chant.
    It happens in society everyday and yes it is boring, but christ, is it really that big a problem at football.

    Football has got much bigger problems imo and tedious stuff like this is just a diversion.

    Political correctness is going wild everywhere. I read an article yesterday about how the Norwegian "Telemark" infantry Battalion has sent troops to Syria to help tr ain the Kurds.

    A video had been published of their time in Afghanistan where their Commander had finished off by starting off theircbattle cry, "To Valhalla".

    It seems certain people have got upset by the aggression and pagan attitudes shown by men about to go off to fight.

    Who'd have thought crack Norwegian troops would draw on their Viking heritage for inspiration when off to war eh? Outrageously insensitive every one of them


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    I honestly can't ever remember hearing sexist chanting at a Forest game (apart from Tits Fanny and Forest) which in my opinion isn't sexist. I'm pretty confident that the majority of fans police themselves anything thats really out of order will be dealt with by the police and stewards (quite rightly so). I'm pretty sure referees and officials get abuse every game but i've never heard the referees association complaining. I suppose that the organisation i think its called "Women in Football" need to justify there position and existence and this is right up there street. It's just getting a little farcical at the moment with the game getting battered over nothing whilst the big issues such as awarding the world cup fraudulenty to countries with horrific human right records one of which still has huge issues with football holliganism are just swept under the carpet.


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    We live in a society now when offence can be taken from almost anything whether it be with malicious intent or not. Someone somewhere has to draw the line as to what is acceptable and what isn't but there will always be pockets of people regardless who will ignore and push the boundaries of suitability.

    Football continues to be a male dominated spectator sport, although there is a greater acceptance and appreciation for female supporters, and I take no offence from the 'tits, fanny and Forest' chant. However, I did feel uncomfortable when A Block directed inappropriate comments towards a female lineswoman a few years ago and that's what needs to be eradicated.

    There's a lot worse on this forum in some areas.

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    I completely agree with the article, don't get me wrong, however it seems that not just in football but society as a whole has began to take on a culture of "I'm not offended personally but someone else might be"

    If somebody came up and said to me "i was offended by what you just said " i would then apologise unreservedly. If someone came up and said "you can't say that as you may offend someone " I'd tell them to fuck off if it wasn't bothering them.


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    I'd be offended if you told me to f### off though?


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    F*** off francis


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    Quote Originally Posted by stockers View Post
    I honestly can't ever remember hearing sexist chanting at a Forest game (apart from Tits Fanny and Forest) which in my opinion isn't sexist. I'm pretty confident that the majority of fans police themselves anything thats really out of order will be dealt with by the police and stewards (quite rightly so). I'm pretty sure referees and officials get abuse every game but i've never heard the referees association complaining. I suppose that the organisation i think its called "Women in Football" need to justify there position and existence and this is right up there street. It's just getting a little farcical at the moment with the game getting battered over nothing whilst the big issues such as awarding the world cup fraudulenty to countries with horrific human right records one of which still has huge issues with football holliganism are just swept under the carpet.
    Clearly you've never been at a match where we had a female assistant ref.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgford_71 View Post
    Come on Alex it's not quite like that, is it. Nobody wants to hear constant direct abuse to any individual during a game but this covers wolf whistling and the odd isolated chant.
    It happens in society everyday and yes it is boring, but christ, is it really that big a problem at football.

    Football has got much bigger problems imo and tedious stuff like this is just a diversion.
    No, it's not that big a problem in football because most male supporters are respectful of their female colleagues. But the poster I was responding to gave the impression that going to the football is only worthwhile if you can spout misogynistic nonsense at whomever you please. If the right to chant sexist or homophobic abuse at anyone even crosses your mind as a reason to spend £400 on a season ticket, it's best if you do stay an armchair fan - stay at home where you can be as un-PC as you like for free and without anyone else having to put up with your garbage.


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    You'll be telling us that Leigh Francis isn't the new Bob Hope next Alex.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rogerthecat View Post
    You'll be telling us that Leigh Francis isn't the new Bob Hope next Alex.
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    I know who Leigh Francis is, just not sure what he's got to do with... well, anything really.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    I know who Leigh Francis is, just not sure what he's got to do with... well, anything really.
    you've clearly not endured his act


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex View Post
    No, it's not that big a problem in football because most male supporters are respectful of their female colleagues. But the poster I was responding to gave the impression that going to the football is only worthwhile if you can spout misogynistic nonsense at whomever you please. If the right to chant sexist or homophobic abuse at anyone even crosses your mind as a reason to spend £400 on a season ticket, it's best if you do stay an armchair fan - stay at home where you can be as un-PC as you like for free and without anyone else having to put up with your garbage.

    I thought that he was making a reference to the idea that tits, fanny and Forest was in danger of becoming unacceptable rather than wanting to shout tits at every female he sees.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wes' Organ View Post
    I thought that he was making a reference to the idea that tits, fanny and Forest was in danger of becoming unacceptable rather than wanting to shout tits at every female he sees.
    Yes, and then he said it was one of the reasons he won't buy a season ticket.

    1) Nobody has said that song is unacceptable. Not even the ladies. Not even a pinko handwringer like me.

    2) That song doesn't even get sung at Forest very often these days. I can't remember the last time I heard it. Like most football sexism, it's just dropped out of fashion and nobody much misses it.

    3) Even if it did get the odd airing, how much does singing that song add to the value of your season ticket? Does not singing it deprive you of any value-for-money? Should you ask for a % refund if you don't get the chance to sing it?

    Saying 'PC gone mad' is the reason you won't buy a season ticket is just daft and childish. You buy a season ticket for many reasons: Enjoying the football, following the sporting contest of a league season, supporting the team, socialising with those you sit with, and so on. The opportunity to sing sexist songs shouldn't even come into the decision. Armchair-fan thinks a football game where you can't sing offensive chants is "Sterilised shite for the masses" - if he misses the point that badly then it's probably for the best if he stays in his armchair. I wish the bloke near me who can't go 5 minutes without balling out some offensive remarks about "gypsies" would do the same.


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    Fair enough sweetheart, it's not my fight! ;-p

    There is something in between offensive and polite applause, I think that the match day experience would be poorer if it was to become oversanitised but I enjoy the tribal elements of football.
    Each to their own without causing upset or offense but both sides of the argument need to show common sense otherwise we will find that our matchdays are very different and that wouldn't necessarily be an improvement.

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    Perhaps we should go back to scrapping and taking stands. You got your monies worth then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand ShAndy! View Post
    Perhaps we should go back to scrapping and taking stands. You got your monies worth then.
    Well if you remember, what I was suggesting was we could have a special stand where people who want to behave like its still the 1970s can do so. The club can charge them a premium price for all that hooligany fun and let them do whatever they want as long as its not "sterilised shite for the masses". Of course the stand will have to be surrounded by a sound-proof steel box so nobody can see or hear their offensive behaviour, so they won't be able to see the pitch, but I'm not sure many of them would notice...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand ShAndy! View Post
    Perhaps we should go back to scrapping and taking stands. You got your monies worth then.
    Aye. The Wolves boys know how to enjoy themselves http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-31789223

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hand ShAndy! View Post
    Perhaps we should go back to scrapping and taking stands. You got your monies worth then.
    Proper day out it was back then Andy. You would be figuring out how to get back to the train station alive, not rushing home early to watch The Voice.


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    Doesn't sound "proper" to me and I hate the voice.

    I always thougth going to watch the football was about going to watch the football and maybe supporting them a little bit too.

    As for Alex's idea, they can have their own song too, something along the lines of
    (to the tune of "I do like to be beside the seaside")

    Oh! I do like to be an utter moron
    I do like to be an utter ****!
    I do like to sing along and stomp, stomp, stomp
    Where the brass knuckles land
    "smash, bang, wallop!"
    So just let me be an utter moron
    I'll be beside myself with glee
    And there's no girls inside,
    because we can't act in a moral, gentlemanly or sociable way towards them
    inside the city ground
    Because we're *****.


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    In all seriousness though, let's not get ravelled up here.
    The ones singing the sexist stuff is usually the boy next door type that's having a day out and had one too many shandys. They aren't the yobs they seem to be getting stereotyped as.

    Not so keen on the idea of putting everyone we don't like in a steel box, sounds a bit WWII to me.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bridgford_71 View Post
    In all seriousness though, let's not get ravelled up here.
    The ones singing the sexist stuff is usually the boy next door type that's having a day out and had one too many shandys. They aren't the yobs they seem to be getting stereotyped as.

    Not so keen on the idea of putting everyone we don't like in a steel box, sounds a bit WWII to me.
    Oh I agree and I hate when football supporters are stereotyped, I just can't defend someone who doesn't go to the football as he's not allowed to be sexist, racist, homophobic etc etc. If it's not allowed in the street then why should it be allowed in a stadium?


 

 

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