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    Wouldn’t it be great if someone wrote a current Forest match report in that style. Takes a bit of writing talent though- which is why I won’t attempt it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Aitor Aitor A Puddycat View Post
    Wouldn’t it be great if someone wrote a current Forest match report in that style. Takes a bit of writing talent though- which is why I won’t attempt it.


    Out ran the "Reds" and their opponents. T'was fair applause that met them. The game kicked off and some twenty minutes gone of much huffing and puffing but little to show for it, t'was murmurings of mild discontent. At half the time neither side had made merry by netting the ball and the crowd was in a lesser mood for it. Half two saw less huffing and puffing than half one, t'was shouts of discord that began to ring out. A penalty kick appeal by the "Reds" was turned away with a deft, authoritative swipe of the referee's arm and some of the more rougher types watching saw fit to accuse him of being born out of wedlock.

    Sadly, (insert name) won the game by a goal to nil. T'was 'Boys of the Boo's' that accompanied the players off the pitch and away.


    Might that do for you?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Garry-Balding Red View Post
    Out ran the "Reds" and their opponents. T'was fair applause that met them. The game kicked off and some twenty minutes gone of much huffing and puffing but little to show for it, t'was murmurings of mild discontent. At half the time neither side had made merry by netting the ball and the crowd was in a lesser mood for it. Half two saw less huffing and puffing than half one, t'was shouts of discord that began to ring out. A penalty kick appeal by the "Reds" was turned away with a deft, authoritative swipe of the referee's arm and some of the more rougher types watching saw fit to accuse him of being born out of wedlock.

    Sadly, (insert name) won the game by a goal to nil. T'was 'Boys of the Boo's' that accompanied the players off the pitch and away.


    Might that do for you?
    Certainly a better effort than I could attempt lol


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    We’ve heard a lot about Forests greatest goal scorer Grenville Morris on this thread. Here he is leading out the Reds v Stoke in 1904, surely the first ever film of Forest live. It comes from the amazing Mitchell & Kenyon series of films.
    Cracking interception by Needham near the start.
    Enjoy!

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    Commentator is useless by the way gets all facts wrong, including fact Forest were at home, check out the Football Post advert.


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    Not strictly Forest History but while researching something else I came across hat there used to be a pub on Bridlesmith Gate named the 'General Garibaldi'. The picture below is from 1924.
    But wouldn't that be a great name to revive for some pub near the CG?



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    Quote Originally Posted by alabamared View Post
    Not strictly Forest History but while researching something else I came across hat there used to be a pub on Bridlesmith Gate named the 'General Garibaldi'. The picture below is from 1924.
    But wouldn't that be a great name to revive for some pub near the CG?

    Good find 'bama. I'm pretty sure that's the location of The Fountain - now too long-gone of course - which would suggest it was a Home Ales house.

    It definitely looks like the entrance to King John's Chambers further up the road, now renamed Bridlesmith Walk.

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    Ha, found these ticket stubbs too. The Boro ticket was the one we won 4-0 to essentially secure promotion. Hopefully a sign!

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    There was a very interesting and informative illustrated talk given this evening by local historian and Forest fan, Brian Howes, at Radford FC's social club in Hyson Green, about the formation of the club under the title "The Lads of The Lings". The Lings (referring to the heather that covered large areas of the land) being what the Forest was previously known as before it became a recreation ground.

    Brian provided a pen-picture of almost everyone who attended the meeting upstairs in The Clinton Arms on that November evening 153-years ago to agree the formation of NFFC.

    I was previously unaware that almost all of those early players were either prosperous themselves, or came from prosperous families, and most lived around the Forest Road/Arboretum/Waverley Street area, which at that time was an affluent neighbourhood, as reflected in much of the retained architecture around there. Most were also involved in the lace trade in some way, as part of family businesses or being machine owners in their own right, whilst some were still pupils at either the fee-paying High or Bluecoat schools.

    This initial talk covered the period from 1865 until the late-1870s, and Brian is planning a follow-up in the spring, covering the period when the club played at the two grounds in Lenton (Gregory Street and Parkside) and then the Town Gound in the Meadows, prior to the final move across the Trent. I would highly recommend it to anyone with an interest in the club's beginnings.


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    Another fact from Brian that I was previously unaware of and overlooked to mention in the earlier post, was that another long-established local club, Notts Castle FC** (originally formed by a workers at a lace factory in Castle Gate), merged with Forest - apologies to IRTD if he's alread made reference to this event earlier in the thread.


    ** A club with solid documented evidence of its existence prior to 1865, unlike another local club which makes exaggerated claims to be the oldest in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis Redd'un View Post
    Another fact from Brian that I was previously unaware of and overlooked to mention in the earlier post, was that another long-established local club, Notts Castle FC** (originally formed by a workers at a lace factory in Castle Gate), merged with Forest - apologies to IRTD if he's alread made reference to this event earlier in the thread.
    ...which makes it absolutely fine to refer to us as Notts Forest then doesn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis Redd'un View Post
    Another fact from Brian that I was previously unaware of and overlooked to mention in the earlier post, was that another long-established local club, Notts Castle FC** (originally formed by a workers at a lace factory in Castle Gate), merged with Forest - apologies to IRTD if he's alread made reference to this event earlier in the thread.


    ** A club with solid documented evidence of its existence prior to 1865, unlike another local club which makes exaggerated claims to be the oldest in the world.
    As an older member of the forum can you remember when Notts started pushing this "eldest club bollocks?"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    As an older member of the forum can you remember when Notts started pushing this "eldest club bollocks?"
    He's not that old


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    Quote Originally Posted by Roonaldo View Post
    ...which makes it absolutely fine to refer to us as Notts Forest then doesn't it?
    And also that the contested history of Notts County is the continuity between Nottingham Football Club, which was founded in 1862, the Pies, who were founded in 1864.

    So both teams have a Notts/Nottingham in their early history.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    As an older member of the forum can you remember when Notts started pushing this "eldest club bollocks?"
    I was 13 when I first became aware Barry, when they were celebrating their centenary in 1962. I never thought much, or bothered about, it for a long time after then, probably until they really started banging-on about it around 15-years-or-so ago. It was then when I was made aware (by a life-long fan of them no less) that no actual documented evidence exists to support what, essentially, is nothing more than unchallenged hearsay that a Notts County Football Club was formed in 1862. There was a Nottingham Football Club and a Notts Castle Football Club in existence at that time, but neither has a link to the Sadpies, though, as I stated earlier, Notts Castle FC eventually merged with Forest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Otis Redd'un View Post
    I was 13 when I first became aware Barry, when they were celebrating their centenary in 1962. I never thought much, or bothered about, it for a long time after then, probably until they really started banging-on about it around 15-years-or-so ago. It was then when I was made aware (by a life-long fan of them no less) that no actual documented evidence exists to support what, essentially, is nothing more than unchallenged hearsay that a Notts County Football Club was formed in 1862. There was a Nottingham Football Club and a Notts Castle Football Club in existence at that time, but neither has a link to the Sadpies, though, as I stated earlier, Notts Castle FC eventually merged with Forest.
    I don't think the claim is that Notts County was formed in 1862, they accept they were founded in 1864, they have a plack on the St George's Hotel that says so.

    The dispute is whether they were a continuation of Nottingham Football Club, which was founded in 1862.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    As an older member of the forum can you remember when Notts started pushing this "eldest club bollocks?"
    They certainly had it writ large on the stand opposite the main stand when I first went in 1970 to see them play Brentford in division 4 0-0 shocking game - my dad wouldn’t let me go to see Forest as it was too rough but I sneaked to see Forest v Everton the following season and although we lost 1-0 and I think Liam O’Kane broke his leg I soon kicked Notts into touch


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    (Nottingham Evening Post, June 8, 1915)

    NOTTINGHAM FOREST F.C.

    SLOW RESPONSE TO APPEAL


    In view of the fact that the annual meeting of the Nottingham Forest Football Club, adjourned from last month, will be held to-morrow night, it is opportune to call attention again to the appeal for £400 to tide over the current crisis, launched at the end of last week.

    It must be regretfully stated that the response so far has not been of a satisfactory nature. Indeed, unless there is a distinct improvement the position of the club will assume a serious aspect. Everyone recognises the difficulty at such a time as this of asking for contributions for any sporting object, but the circumstances are so exceptional as to justify the step.

    During the fifty years of its history the Forest Club has enjoyed a reputation second to none for all that is best in sport. That the opposition to seek rejuvenation should be denied it would be most regrettable.

    Another fact that should not be overlooked is the action of the Forest Club in urging the enlistment of its players. All that could be effected in the way of persuasion to secure this end was done, and the committee cheerfully faced the inevitable result, the depreciation of the standard of football produced by the team, the falling off in the attractiveness of the games, and the consequent alarming drop in receipts. In a word, the cub suffered by its patriotism, and that uncomplainingly. Now is the time for the helping hand. But, assistance must not be delayed.


    Some people obviously did answer the call for monies..


    (Nottingham Evening Post, Tuesday, August 10, 1915)

    LOYAL FOREST SUPPORTER

    SENDS SUBSCRIPTION FROM FAR OFF INDIA


    In view of the big struggle the Nottingham Forest F. C. are making to keep the flag of the old club flying it must certainly have proved a source of considerable encouragement to know that even in one of the outposts of the empire, India to wit, there are persons who desire the “Reds” to prosper. An apt illustration of this has been afforded in the receipt by the club secretary, Mr. R. J. Marsters, of the appended letter from a captain in the Indian army:-

    Dear Sir,

    I have sent by money order to the treasurer of the Nottingham Forest Football club £1 1s. I hope you will manage to keep the old club going after the war is over. There must be 20,000 supporters who could all give sixpence to raise £500.

    With all good wishes, yours faithfully,

    A. P. Wodehouse (Capt.)


    Following the 1914-15 season, professionalism in football was suspended, the football League was suspended and the newly setup regional football leagues and friendlies were all that were available. Forest won the Midland section in 1915-16. At the end of the 1916-17 season, the Footbal League who had made around £1,400 profit in the 1916-17 season, wanted to carry on the League in the same format.
    Fans were hit in 1916 with new taxes. A tax was levied on amusements at a rate of half a pence for every two pence. Additionally, a tax was added to train tickets. Any ticket between 9 and a half pence would attract a tax of 1/2d., and another 1/2d for every shilling thereafter.
    The following year tickets were hit again with an increase in the entertainment tax. The government now wanted 2p if the customer paid between 3d. and 6d., 3d. for entertainment costing over 6d. and less than 1s.
    At their annual meeting in 1917, the Football league asked their members to consider what the prices should be following the tax increase and vote whether admittance prices should be 7d. or 8d. 7d. effectively meant the clubs would absorb the increase and 8d would mean they passed it on to fans. Blackburn Rovers thought that there fans would not pay 8d. and that the it would cost them up to £1500 in lost revenue. Masters of Forest thought that it would lead to a 16% reduction in their gate, but Mr. Ashton of Stockport thought that they would have no problems getting 8d. Not all teams were at the meeting so it was determined that the vote would be deferred , but anyone not voting would face a fine of £10 10s. Forest subsequently advertised prices as 6d. +tax, so presumably 8d. total.
    Clubs, however were having problems getting around on the trains and a number in the Midland section dropped out. Our near neighbours Derby, shut up shop after the 1915-16 season, only to reappear when the League proper return for the 1919-20 season.
    Forest played in the Midland section of the League through the war, and were even League Cup winners in 1918-19 after beating the Lancashire League winners, Everton.
    It's been a while since I added anything here, but I thought that this would be of interest. It seems that there was a similar donor to Wodehouse in the second World War -

    (Nottingham Evening Post, Monday, September 11th, 1944)

    A PRIVATE ELECTED V.P. OF FOREST F.C.

    Recognition of Army-Sportsman’s Generosity.

    Mr. G. N. Watson, in his capacity of hon. secretary of the Nottingham Forest F.C. this weekend received a letter which is unique in the annals of the club and of the sport, for in the midst of the rush and dangers of the battle areas of France, following his participation in the Normandy landing a private of the British Army thought of the welfare of his favourite football club and forwarded three English £1 notes and a French 5 franc note to assist the “Reds.”

    In recognition of his generous gesture, which naturally created some excitement at the City Ground, Mr. H. R. Cobbin, the chairman, and his colleagues of the committee, at once decided to elect the subscriber, Pte. Louis Davis, of the British Liberation Army, a vice-president of the club, and notification of this was today dispatched to him, accompanied by a membership ticket. In the course of his letter, Pte. Davis remarked:

    “Maybe my enclosing £3 and the request for a season ticket sounds idiotic, because I don’t suppose I’ve a dog’s chance of leaving the Continent for months. I am a Nottingham man and before the war I was, and always will be, a staunch Forest supporter come what may.”

    I followed the ‘Reds’’ games with great interest for 10 years prior to the war. I realise only too well that our ‘Magpie’ rivals have the advantage of us for the time being. They have procured an excellent manager in Major Buckley, and as a Nottingham man I wish them good luck.”

    “Please enrol me as a member of the Forest Club, or supporters’ Club, or both if they are two different organisations.”

    “Like all Foresters, I am looking forward to Nottingham Forest regaining First Division status one day. Football results, if only regional, have done much to cheer me up, especially in Africa with the 8th Army. When you send the ticket please ask the lads to autograph it for me, including yourself, Mr. Walker, and the trainer.”

    The five franc note was stuck on a sheet of paper, of which was inscribed: “Souvenir of the Western Front. Good luck to the Nottingham Forest F.C. May your opponents be driven to ‘unconditional surrender.’ From a ‘Forester’ in France. August 29th, 1944.


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    That’s brilliant. Probably my favourite post in this thread yet.

    „I believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialism“

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    The 1915 article is further proof of the club being formed in 1865 ("the fifty years of its history").
    Not sure if it's been covered in this thread but Stoke City's claim of being formed in 1863 is backed up by nothing at all.
    Their website admits this:
    https://www.stokecityfc.com/1863-1888-in-the-beginning


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    Any way of finding out if he made it?


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    Someone by the name Louis Davis had a hosiery business in Nottingham in 1948, might it be the same person?

    Link here

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    That link brings up this




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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry View Post
    That link brings up this
    Should be working now.

    The business is still going too

    https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/00458321


 

 

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