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    According to a (knowledgeable regarding Olympiacos) Greek sports site, there is a plan for cooperation between our academies. They will train together for 14 days (usually our youth teams go for preseason in Mt. Pelion in Thessaly), and play a couple of friendlies.

    I remind you that a youth team of yours is supposed to play a friendly with the youth team of Atromitos as well.

    I suppose we're talking about your U18 team, since we only have U15, U17 and U19 teams. If so, I'm sure they'll benefit from playing against players one year older.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    According to a (knowledgeable regarding Olympiacos) Greek sports site, there is a plan for cooperation between our academies. They will train together for 14 days (usually our youth teams go for preseason in Mt. Pelion in Thessaly), and play a couple of friendlies.
    I thought you were coming to Greece, but it's actually the other way round. It was announced that our U19 team (including several players of the U17 team) will have its pre-season training in Nottingham, starting on July 16. We'll play a number of friendlies, with you of course, but also with Reading, Everton,
    Sheffield Wednesday, Manchester City and Aston Vila.


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    Poor kids, they'll be gutted!


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    I thought you were coming to Greece, but it's actually the other way round. It was announced that our U19 team (including several players of the U17 team) will have its pre-season training in Nottingham, starting on July 16. We'll play a number of friendlies, with you of course, but also with Reading, Everton,
    Sheffield Wednesday, Manchester City and Aston Vila.
    Should be good that. Scheduling and planning tournaments like this are vital for knowing where some players stand. Some really good teams there.


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    Recent goodbyes.

    Iacovitti signed for Oldham.

    https://twitter.com/alexiacovitti/st...49711148060674




    2 or 3 clubs want Crookes.

    https://twitter.com/adamcrookes97/st...85144410103815




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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanRoy View Post
    2 or 3 clubs want Crookes.
    Went to Port Vale.

    https://twitter.com/OfficialPVFC/sta...33316638212097


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    Quote Originally Posted by It's Baggio View Post
    Has anyone taken the lad Etete from Notts? I know he had a trial at Spurs and we had been sniffing around.
    Officially joined Spurs.

    A bit of a joke that they didn't want him to join us.


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    Forest have signed Aaron Donnelly from Dungannon Swifts. A few players from them have joined clubs like Liverpool/Everton so it is good group for them. Their Northern Ireland team won the u16 Victory Shield for only the 2nd time in their history.

    Plays left-back, centre-back & centre-mid but I think mainly left-back.

    Joins Silvio Bello, Luke Boland, Fin Back, Oli Hammond, Alex Gibson-Hammond & Jovel Jackson-Davis for 2019/20 Academy in-take.



    U18 team for FA Youth Cup next year ?


    Michael Statham

    Malique Spooner
    James Clarridge
    Tawanda Mutoti
    Aaron Donnelly

    Finley Back
    Ethan Dekel-Daks
    Alex Gibson-Hammond

    Elliot Andrew
    Jovel Jackson-Davis
    Alex Mighten

    Bench or the rest
    Nykah Liburd-Hines (gk)
    Silvio Bello
    Luke Boland
    Sam Sanders
    Oli Hammond

    Gone with James Clarridge starting despite being u16. Just think he is that highly regarded and that good.

    Stand-outs from the lower age groups to watch.

    Under 16 : Osa Solomon (rb/cb), Jordan Fanwke (cm), Jack Perkins (cm), Lewis Darlington (wf/cf)
    Under 15 : Aaron Bott (gk), Kyle McAdam (lcb/cm), Fenn Davies (cm), Tayo Tucker (amf), Esapa Osong (wf/cf)
    Under 14 : Elijah Morgan (lb), Danny Anisjko (cm), Alex Li (wf/cf)


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    Yet another story by the Greek reporter, this time about the facilities at your academy, mostly with pictures: https://www.sport24.gr/football/omad...t.5531678.html

    It claims that there is yet another Greek, a guy called Giannis Vasdekis, with some administrative role in the academy. I've never heard of him.


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    I think the only persons at Forest the Greek reporter has not yet interviewed is the club secretary and the cleaning ladies. Today he has a very interesting interview with Gary Brazil: https://www.sport24.gr/football/omad...a.5528878.html

    He says many interesting things, about the pressure to produce players for the first team (he says that Vrentzos always asks him "who's next?"), about the structure of the teams, about the incredible competition between clubs for signing the most talented youngsters, about scouting (there's a scout for ages 7-12, a scout for ages 13-16 and a scout for ages 17-23, plus the head of academy scouting), about the system of foster families for those who do not originate in Nottingham, about cooperation with Olympiacos, and he ends proudly proclaiming that you have one of the best academies in the UK.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    The two U23 Greeks (Megaritis, who made several appearances, mostly as a bencher, and Panagou, who hardly played) do not appear in any list. What does that mean?
    Quote Originally Posted by BryanRoy View Post
    That is odd.

    I wonder if they were on loan and the club didn't worry about naming the u23 loan returnees.
    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    Or they just forgot that they existed.
    In any case, they do not figure on the team page at the official site, so I guess they are officially gone.

    I wonder if others will be tried out over there. As I've said before, we only have teams up to U19, so it does make sense for a couple of our 20-year-olds to be tried out in your U23 team.

    In fact I have an unusbstantiated hunch that there is a candidate: Thanassis Kostanasios, 20, winger, international with all Greek youth teams, started the year with the U19 team but trained regularly with the first team. Unfortunately, he missed most of the season due to injury (he's been training regularly for the last couple of months). He just renewed his contract and I read that he will follow the U19 for preseason in Nottingham, although he has no right to play for them next season. So, one reason I can think of why he is coming there is to be evaluated for your U23 team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    In any case, they do not figure on the team page at the official site, so I guess they are officially gone.

    I wonder if others will be tried out over there. As I've said before, we only have teams up to U19, so it does make sense for a couple of our 20-year-olds to be tried out in your U23 team.

    In fact I have an unusbstantiated hunch that there is a candidate: Thanassis Kostanasios, 20, winger, international with all Greek youth teams, started the year with the U19 team but trained regularly with the first team. Unfortunately, he missed most of the season due to injury (he's been training regularly for the last couple of months). He just renewed his contract and I read that he will follow the U19 for preseason in Nottingham, although he has no right to play for them next season. So, one reason I can think of why he is coming there is to be evaluated for your U23 team.
    Forest currently have En-Neyah, Sodeinde, Hayes, Swan who can play wide for the 23s. Appiah and Johnson will be with the first team when the 23s go to Portugal so Thanassis might go along for that trip. I wouldn't say any of those 4 are out-and-out wingers so he might have a chance.

    I would have included Mighten in there but I have heard he hasn't signed his pro contract that was supposedly a formality when they announced it last summer. I think there is genuine concerns he will move on. His best mate is Bondswell and he left us for Germany. Then there is also the fact David Johnson looks after him and obviously he looks after his son Brennan too so not sure how you balance your interests there. Someone like Johnson is better central but he may get his chances as a wide-attacker first.


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    These are Olympiakos u19s fixtures whilst they stay at the academy for 2 weeks. Seems like we will be doing a similar trip to Greece and the same English teams will all stay at Olympiakos' facilities.




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    Also Karembeu talking about the planning and when they sent reps to look at our facilities.




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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanRoy View Post
    Seems like we will be doing a similar trip to Greece and the same English teams will all stay at Olympiakos' facilities.
    Indeed, it was in the official announcement and I missed it. Speaking of facilities, the days when ergometric tests basically consisted in running a few laps for the manager to check if you worked out in the summer are long gone:




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    Good news this.

    Guys like Gabriel, Preston (although may stay for first team interest), Taylor, Fornah, Edser (even if didn't work last seson), En-neyah, Gomis etc could do with successful loan moves.

    Port Vale hopes of Nottingham Forest loan signings
    Port Vale will include a day at Nottingham Forest among their pre-season schedule along with games against Burnley, Fleetwood and more


    Port Vale can use their training day at Nottingham Forest as a chance to look at possible loan signings.

    That's the view of Vale hero Phil Sproson who has revealed he set up the day, early next month, through his connections at Forest.


    The football agent has players on his books from Forest among other clubs but has made the clear the day gives manager John Askey the chance to look at promising young players regardless of who represents them.

    However, he believes Vale can benefit from a strong working relationship with Forest whose youth graduates over the last few years include striker Tyler Walker and defender Joe Worrall, who spent the second half of last season on loan at Glasgow Rangers

    While the likes of Walker and Worrall would now be out of Vale's reach, Sproson is hopeful John Askey will have the chance to look at some younger Forest players yet to make their name in first-team football.

    Sproson, who played 500 games for the Vale, said: "It is a connection to Nottingham Forest and we are trying to build a bridge.

    "There are a number of clubs that have tried to have some sort of training day with Nottingham Forest under-23s who have a fantastic record in bringing players through their academy.

    "It gives John the opportunity to look at some of their under-23 players who could go on loan. I am not saying Port Vale will be able to get them but an opportunity may develop.

    "I have two Forest under-23s but there are five with other agents that I would love to see in a Port Vale shirt. Whether that happens, I don't know. If John Askey likes a player then it would be up to Nottingham Forest."

    Sproson represents Adam Crookes who joined Vale on loan from Forest in January and then joined the Vale on a free transfer at the end of the season, signing a two-year deal.

    He believes Crookes' experience at Vale Park will have been noted by Forest.

    He explained: "In Vale's favour is they would look at what has happened to Adam Crookes.

    "He has been exceptionally well looked after by Port Vale. Everyone made him feel so welcome.



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    Gabriel in particular needs some genuine adult football. Such a shame about his injury issues over time. For his own career he needs to prove he can handle it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve Stone's Mullet View Post
    Gabriel in particular needs some genuine adult football. Such a shame about his injury issues over time. For his own career he needs to prove he can handle it.
    Such a natural mover to with and without the ball. Such a pity.

    Lucky for us Jayden is making strides.

    I have noticed that Taylor and Fornah have impressed MON/Keane. On their day they are very good so easy to see why but think Brennan being with the first team limits their chances of going to Spain.


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    Quote Originally Posted by BryanRoy View Post
    Such a natural mover to with and without the ball. Such a pity.

    Lucky for us Jayden is making strides.

    I have noticed that Taylor and Fornah have impressed MON/Keane. On their day they are very good so easy to see why but think Brennan being with the first team limits their chances of going to Spain.

    Wouldn’t be too shocked if we saw, Taylor and Fornah play at Alfreton on the 29th this month wouldn’t be shocked also to see Edser, Gabriel or Preston there either.

    It’s good to see that Port Vale are wanting to build a connection with us and if so it would benefit the players swell to test themselves in competitive football


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    Quote Originally Posted by NFFC11 View Post
    Wouldn’t be too shocked if we saw, Taylor and Fornah play at Alfreton on the 29th this month wouldn’t be shocked also to see Edser, Gabriel or Preston there either.

    It’s good to see that Port Vale are wanting to build a connection with us and if so it would benefit the players swell to test themselves in competitive football
    I definitely reckon we will see a few. You do well it may get you on the trip to Spain.

    How I see the 20s/21s

    Really interested for Forest
    Preston

    Possibly Forest but getting them into the football league is the main hope

    Gabriel
    Taylor
    Fornah
    Edser
    En-Neyah
    Gomis

    Not to be harsh but filler-ins who will do well to have a football league career

    Wright
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    Sodeinde


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    I see Taylor as a Crookes type.

    Looks like he takes good care of himself. Works damn hard on the pitch, his playing style is that of a leader with his combative play. But not sure he's someone who'll have a Forest career. I'd say he's ready/close to ready for a loan too.


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    Well done Jimmy.

    https://twitter.com/NFFC/status/1142...730821121?s=19




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    Outstanding.

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    Actually - funny story alert:

    I was taking to a colleague on Wednesday about work-related matters, and of course the conversation ends up at football (we are both „Club Members“ at VfB Stuttgart).

    He’s a UEFA-qualified coach and coaches local youth football. He told me that the DFB (German FA) has now invested a total of over One Billion Euros (With a B) in amateur and youth football.

    €1Bn.

    Which might explain that wherever I go in Germany, even the smallest local football club has the kind of facilities (proper pitch, changing rooms and equipment) that can only be dreamed of elsewhere.

    Needless to say, I was impressed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    Actually - funny story alert:

    I was taking to a colleague on Wednesday about work-related matters, and of course the conversation ends up at football (we are both „Club Members“ at VfB Stuttgart).

    He’s a UEFA-qualified coach and coaches local youth football. He told me that the DFB (German FA) has now invested a total of over One Billion Euros (With a B) in amateur and youth football.

    €1Bn.

    Which might explain that wherever I go in Germany, even the smallest local football club has the kind of facilities (proper pitch, changing rooms and equipment) that can only be dreamed of elsewhere.

    Needless to say, I was impressed.
    That dont surprise me at all, the investment here is shocking.

    The team I help run, the actual club gets all its funding for the cricket team from football as well.

    They put it to the committee to send a coach on a level 3 course and then he was to split his time between coaching all the age groups, girls and boys couple a week.

    The committee voted for that money to be spent on a cricket scoreboard.

    In Germany each coach would be level 3 for each team such is the investment

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