James Beattie.

[lif3mouldnn]

Rumour will not go away.

Anyone think this is a possibility?
Have Forest put in an official bid?
Will the Blunts sell him?
Do we want him? (lot of money for a 30 year old).

Personally I wouldn't be suprised.

I understand that the Blunts don't need the money but have been told they shouldn't increase their wage bill.
Hence if they want new players in they need to offload there biggest earners. Beattie apparently on 20K per week.

Would Forest match that?

Give us your thoughts, or any inside info you have.

Nigel.


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[Rich]

I think he'd be a great signing, easily has about another 3 or 4 years at this level, brings with him first class experience, and definite goals.

Beattie, Earnshaw, Tyson in a 3 pronged attack would take us to the top of the league.

I'm not sure how realistic it is though, but then again, I thought the same about Earnshaw.

[TrentEndBen]

We were paying Lennon somewhere in the region of 15-20k a week, so I see no reason why we wouldn't do the same with Beattie, who in my opinion would have a much bigger influence on the pitch than Lennon did.

He got over 20 goals last season and has a decent premier league background and you'd have to say, despite his age, he'd be an even bigger catch than Earnie.

It's ambitious, but entirely within Forest's reach.

[All Mod Cons.]

I'd rather have Harewood.

[chap]

We were paying Lennon somewhere in the region of 15-20k a week,

Fuck off were we!

Where do you get these 'facts' from?!

[TrentEndBen]

I'd rather have Harewood.

But Harewood, as much as you might hate it, is an unrealistic target. Certainly in terms of wages and probably transfer fee as well.

Beattie is just about attainable and probably at the top end of Forest's financial capabilities.

[TrentEndBen]

Fuck off were we!

Where do you get these 'facts' from?!

Well I never said it was fact... If I knew the "facts" I wouldn't have given an estimate. From the numerous posts I've seen on this forum since we signed Lennon, 15-20k has been the most touted figure.

I'm just assuming this as it seems to be the opinion of the majority.

[earthworm]

Beattie, Earnshaw, Tyson in a 3 pronged attack would take us to the top of the league.

That's a drool inducing line up compared to not so long ago having the likes of Gaz Taylor, Big Grant and Eugine Daddy up there!

Pleeeeease let it happen.

[marshal99]

Too much of a gamble , if we don't go up , we'll be burdened with his huge wages.

I don't want to end up like the days under Hart when we'll have to cut cost , cut wages , sell off all the high earners and get saddled with the tag of "Cash strapped" again.

[birkin youth]

Rumour will not go away.

Anyone think this is a possibility?
Have Forest put in an official bid?
Will the Blunts sell him?
Do we want him? (lot of money for a 30 year old).

Personally I wouldn't be suprised.

I* understand that the Blunts don't need the money but have been told they shouldn't increase their wage bill.
Hence if they want new players in they need to offload there biggest earners. Beattie apparently on 20K per week.

Would Forest match that?

Give us your thoughts, or any inside info you have.

Nigel.

Yeah read this in the Mirror about 2 weeks ago...

Apparently Blunts are paying him £22k a week and we said we could match that... can't remember what transfer fee was suggested, maybe about £4.5 million

But seriously, why would Utd want to sell him considering he scored so many goals for them this season??

Is it cos their parachute payments have run out, and they have other strikers they feel they can rely on??

[Rich]

Too much of a gamble , if we don't go up , we'll be burdened with his huge wages.

I don't want to end up like the days under Hart when we'll have to cut cost , cut wages , sell off all the high earners and get saddled with the tag of "Cash strapped" again.

I think we wouldn't need to go up at the first attempt, but we definitely would need to in the second year, or at least reach the play offs.

I can't see why Sheff Utd would be in that much of a better financial situation than us.

If a good portion of his wages was based on appearance/goals then we'd only be paying out vast sums if he was scoring the goals that were taking us to the top.

It is a gamble, but I think we've got ourselves into a position where we can afford a bit of a gamble.

I think if we signed him, it would have to be the last of our 'big money' signings for the year.

[marshal99]

Now that Earnshaw has been signed , i really don't think there's a need for Beattie.

As much as fans wants ND to splash cash like the Roman Abramovich of the championship , i would think that forest would have learned from the folly of the platt years where we overspend beyond our means and paying out overpriced wages.

[Jurssey-BCFC]

Based on what I saw when we played them, I would be incredibly surprised if Sheffield United were prepared to sell him.

They are much more likely to get rid of Billy Sharp not Beattie.
Still a class forward and anyone could see it.

[adam09]

Beattie would be an incredible signing... I don't for one minute think Sheff Utd don't want to keep him though!

[Rich]

You're right about overspending, but I think the difference is that the players now being touted are proven.

We have a slow buying process, and, as Doughty said, by the time they put an offer in, they know everything about a player.

All criticism aside, I think Forest have learnt from what went before, and now ensure we only buy quality. We seem to put a valuation on a player, usually a fair one, and not move too far from it.

I imagine once their valuation is set, there is aabout 5 or 10% wiggle room, anything outside of that and we dismiss the interest and move on to the next target.

It's a strategy that has sometimes left us frustrated, but is paying off in the long run.

The Best saga springs to mind. We were desperate for Doughty to splash the cash on Best, he didn't, and we now have Earnshaw, a much more proven striker.

I don't think we'd put a bid in for Beattie unless we were sure we could afford him. For all Doughty's faults, he is a very smart businessman.

[Jurssey-BCFC]

He is on 20 grand a year at Sheffield United.

I was told that up there by a couple of locals when we played them.

You'd have to offer as much as that plus something to tempt Sheffield Utd to sell arguably their strongest player.

[Rich]

He is on 20 grand a year at Sheffield United.

I was told that up there by a couple of locals when we played them.

You'd have to offer as much as that plus something to tempt Sheffield Utd to sell arguably their strongest player.

I think we could afford 20 grand a year, easily!

[marshal99]

I don't think we'd put a bid in for Beattie unless we were sure we could afford him. For all Doughty's faults, he is a very smart businessman.

Not on footballing matters , he's not. He still have a lot to prove as a chairman.
I would rather use the money being touted for beattie on other players , haven't you noticed that we still have voids in other areas of the team.

[congo_red]

His signing will definetly be announced today.

Along with Leon Best, Neil Danns, Matt Jarvis and Mark Bunn.

Nurse! My medication please.

[Jurssey-BCFC]

I think we could afford 20 grand a year, easily!

i thought it was a bit cheap too

Its only guys like me that are on that....

[Rich]

Not on footballing matters , he's not. He still have a lot to prove as a chairman.
I would rather use the money being touted for beattie on other players , haven't you noticed that we still have voids in other areas of the team.

Setting budgets and sticking to them, the ability to walk away from a bad deal and 3 year financial forecasting are all the traits he needs.

He doesn't pick the players, Pleat and Calderwood do that, he merely works out the finances and the investement side of it.

I don't think we do have major voids elsewhere.

We have a goalkeeper capable of playing in the Premiership, in the centre of defence Breckin took Wigan to the Premiership, Wilson played in the Championship and Wes is vastly improved and deserves his chance in the Championship.

Chambers is unproven at Forest in the centre, as he's only played right back, but he's done a fantastic job there. We could pssibly do with getting someone experienced in there though.

Bennett has gone from strength to strength, but I feel he needs an experienced left back with him in training to get the best out of him. His form improved when we got Wright, and was even better when Lockwood came.

In the midfield Cohen, McGugan and Clingan are all outstanding, and we'd struggle to buy anyone of that ability.

Davies and McLeary are clearly unproven, but I think could be deployed on the wings and do some damage. We've seen glimpses that both are better than Commons, if these glimpses can be made into consistency, they will both prove to be excellent signings. McLeary especially looks fearless, and may well go on to be a bit of a legend.

I have always thought our only downfall has been in attack.

A sub keeper to keep Smith on his toes is a difficult thing, as anyone with a realistic chance of displacing him will cost too much to merely sit on the bench. I'm not keen on paying £1m for someone to warm the bench, which is what they will do, unless we get someone like Foster on season long loan, or go after the likes of Basso or Speroni, who have been the two stand out goalkeepers in the Championship for the past year. Even then, I don't think anyone can say that those two are better than Smith.

For me, those three are the best three goalkeepers outside of the Premiership.

Maybe Angerken at Leeds would come in at fourth. It would surprise me if nobody made an approach for him though.

I don't much like this talk of Bunn or Westwood either, we'd pay way over the odds for both, and neither would get close to Smith.

[Jurssey-BCFC]

Setting budgets and sticking to them, the ability to walk away from a bad deal and 3 year financial forecasting are all the traits he needs.

He doesn't pick the players, Pleat and Calderwood do that, he merely works out the finances and the investement side of it.

I don't think we do have major voids elsewhere.

We have a goalkeeper capable of playing in the Premiership, in the centre of defence Breckin took Wigan to the Premiership, Wilson played in the Championship and Wes is vastly improved and deserves his chance in the Championship.

Chambers is unproven at Forest in the centre, as he's only played right back, but he's done a fantastic job there. We could pssibly do with getting someone experienced in there though.

Bennett has gone from strength to strength, but I feel he needs an experienced left back with him in training to get the best out of him. His form improved when we got Wright, and was even better when Lockwood came.

In the midfield Cohen, McGugan and Clingan are all outstanding, and we'd struggle to buy anyone of that ability.

Davies and McLeary are clearly unproven, but I think could be deployed on the wings and do some damage. We've seen glimpses that both are better than Commons, if these glimpses can be made into consistency, they will both prove to be excellent signings. McLeary especially looks fearless, and may well go on to be a bit of a legend.

I have always thought our only downfall has been in attack.

A sub keeper to keep Smith on his toes is a difficult thing, as anyone with a realistic chance of displacing him will cost too much to merely sit on the bench. I'm not keen on paying £1m for someone to warm the bench, which is what they will do, unless we get someone like Foster on season long loan, or go after the likes of Basso or Speroni, who have been the two stand out goalkeepers in the Championship for the past year. Even then, I don't think anyone can say that those two are better than Smith.

For me, those three are the best three goalkeepers outside of the Premiership.

Maybe Angerken at Leeds would come in at fourth. It would surprise me if nobody made an approach for him though.

I don't much like this talk of Bunn or Westwood either, we'd pay way over the odds for both, and neither would get close to Smith.

In all this though mate are you saying you'd be comfortable not signing anyone else?

I don't know your squad that well (although I admit your keeper has always impressed me and played very well at AG) but the side we ended up with this season had nobody in midfield or attack that was a regular in our L1 side.

[EmJay]

Will not happen.

Would cost us at least 5-6million and that's if Sheffield United want rid, and my understanding is that they don't.

Beattie is on at least £20k a week, and ive heard a figure closer to £40k but that's proberbly a bit over the top. Eithier way, he's on at least double what anyone at the CG is on, and its not like hes going to move down (because that's what it would be seen as) for less money.

I would seriously put this one to bed. Even getting someone like Sinclair or Sahar on loan from Chelsea would be a lot more realistic and within our means, and an option I definantly think CC and Pleat should be considering.

[forestbanter]

I doubt it, unless the Hulse - Derby deal falls through.

I can't see them wanting to lose 2 strikers.

[sedgred]

I have an impression that Doughty and Calderwood enjoy the smoke screens and rumours that abound, whilst they actually chase their chosen targets. I do not think Beattie is a feasable project but would not be suprised at a another good unexpected signing.