Welcome to the LTLF Forest Forum.
Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 51 to 75 of 75
  1. #51

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    For the sake of argument the majority of the English/British list spent a lot of time living in England, many had an education here. There are a couple who came over specifically for sport, but most didn't. Can't really compare them to Tony Cascarino and Andy Townsend. There are other names you could use though that could compare though I suppose.


  2. # ADS
    Circuit advertisement
    Join Date
    Always
    Posts
    Many

  3. #52
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    10,087

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Why can't it just be place of birth? Or nationality ie passport held, not the passports you could hold, but the passport you travel on.

    Perhaps footballers could be asked, for the record when they sign their first pro contract, which country that are nationals of, and later when they are selected for international football, they can only play for the country they nominated at the start of their career.


  4. #53

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    But some people genuinely feel they are nationals of more than one country. Maybe your parents are from two different countries, and you've already lived in both.


  5. #54

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Quote Originally Posted by valspoodle View Post
    Why can't it just be place of birth? Or nationality ie passport held, not the passports you could hold, but the passport you travel on.

    Perhaps footballers could be asked, for the record when they sign their first pro contract, which country that are nationals of, and later when they are selected for international football, they can only play for the country they nominated at the start of their career.

    Good idea Vals, anything to put a bit of pride back into international football.
    I wonder how many players will discover Qatari roots before 2022? Kerching!


  6. #55

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Stephen Cherono once of Kenya, became a Qatari two-time steeplechase World Champion and a world record holder as Saif Saaeed Shaheen.


  7. #56

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Benali (on loan) View Post
    Stephen Cherono once of Kenya, became a Qatari two-time steeplechase World Champion and a world record holder as Saif Saaeed Shaheen.


    Hmmmm, wait and see Cameliniho and Arabio, the Brazilian born wonder kids.

    Excuse the casual racism, ta!


  8. #57
    Not that type of player
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    The Mixer
    Posts
    37,044

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Which nationality a player feels he belongs to is important, or we get the Podolski situation where a player is initially rejected by his chosen national team, and later refuses to celebrate when he later scores against them. He was born in Poland and held a German passport so was eligible for both under Valspoodles proposed clear rules.

    And what FB said ^^

    Last edited by Ravi; 18-11-14 at 19:21.
    Stand Firm And Strike Hard

  9. #58
    Left Winger
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Lufthansa Business Lounge
    Posts
    82,959

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    And then you've got poor old Rio Mavuba, who was born on a ship in international waters, who had to fight to be able to play for France (where his parents settled, as refugees).

    „I believe in socialism because it seems more humanitarian, rather than every man for himself and 'I'm alright jack' and all those arsehole businessmen with all the loot. I made up my mind from viewing society from that angle. That's where I'm from and there's where I've made my decisions from. That's why I believe in socialism“

    — Joe Strummer

  10. #59
    ...the Liatrom Red
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    A Block 'til I die
    Posts
    2,131

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Francis Benali (on loan) View Post
    But some people genuinely feel they are nationals of more than one country. Maybe your parents are from two different countries, and you've already lived in both.
    Very true.

    I hold a both a British and Irish passport and to limit who I could have played for depending on which one I travel on would be ridiculous as I travel on the one I can bloody well find first!

    There's nothing wrong with considering yourself an Irish Englishman, Welsh Scot, Bermudan Sri Lanki or whatever else for that matter. If that's how you feel thats how you feel, feck what anyone else thinks.

    Andy Townsend is a difficult one. Openly admits that it started out as a flag of convenience but fell in love with Ireland, captained us, gave it absolutely everything and now holds an Irish passport. Unlike John Aldridge, I have a hell of a lot of a time for him.


  11. #60
    winnits
    Guest

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    I think we can all agree Aldridge is an abhorrent wanksock of a man.


  12. #61
    Left Winger
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Lufthansa Business Lounge
    Posts
    82,959

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Frankly, if I found John Aldridge on fire in the street, the first thing I'd do is poor more petrol on the bastard.


  13. #62

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    I wouldn't do that. That would be awful.


  14. #63
    ...the Liatrom Red
    Join Date
    Oct 2008
    Location
    A Block 'til I die
    Posts
    2,131

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    I concur....an awful waste of petrol.


  15. #64
    Sexual Tyrannosaurus
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Behind you
    Posts
    43,660

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Pissing all over Man U. Imagine what could have been

    "Ive only met Andy....last week actually and can confirm he is in 2nd place in sexiest fucker on here stakes." -Barry

  16. #65
    Sexual Tyrannosaurus
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
    Location
    Behind you
    Posts
    43,660

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Goes off and they fall to pieces


  17. #66
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Posts
    10,087

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Just shows how difficult it is to determine talent in football. Piddled around at Ipswich showing flashes of skill, out of favour everywhere and picked up for a song. Then becomes Prem regular.

    Those in the game should contact us on here, we can spot rubbish players at 100 yards with our eyes closed.


  18. #67
    Account removed
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    17,139

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Quote Originally Posted by valspoodle View Post
    Just shows how difficult it is to determine talent in football. Piddled around at Ipswich showing flashes of skill, out of favour everywhere and picked up for a song. Then becomes Prem regular.

    Those in the game should contact us on here, we can spot rubbish players at 100 yards with our eyes closed.
    I think he always had the talent, but lacked the discipline and mental fortitude earlier in his career.


  19. #68
    account deleted
    Guest

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    The problem is people tend to place too much emphasis on "talent" and treat it as a straight line.

    Fact is form comes and goes. Players move on and learn.

    He isn't the player he was when he was here. He's pushed on and got better.

    Fair play to him.


  20. #69
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    9,111

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Quote Originally Posted by valspoodle View Post
    Just shows how difficult it is to determine talent in football. Piddled around at Ipswich showing flashes of skill, out of favour everywhere and picked up for a song. Then becomes Prem regular.

    Those in the game should contact us on here, we can spot rubbish players at 100 yards with our eyes closed.
    Yet our fans have written of players with virtually no playing time.. Rafa Mir anyone

    Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk


  21. #70
    Billy Davies long lost lovechild.
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    41,718

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    Yet our fans have written of players with virtually no playing time.. Rafa Mir anyone

    Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
    Mir's slightly different though in that he'll be back at Wolves season end. So any investment in him will see little return for ourselves.

    Muric & Semedo are the same to me. Unless they're gonna become Forest players, I'd sooner see their game time go to academy players who'll we reap the rewards from.


  22. #71
    Account removed
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    17,139

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post
    Mir's slightly different though in that he'll be back at Wolves season end. So any investment in him will see little return for ourselves.

    Muric & Semedo are the same to me. Unless they're gonna become Forest players, I'd sooner see their game time go to academy players who'll we reap the rewards from.
    Hmmm....

    You'll win nowt wi' kids.

    I thought the idea was to win promotion, or has that gone out the window too?


  23. #72
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2005
    Posts
    916

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    I thought the idea was to win promotion, or has that gone out the window too?
    Depends if we have to win it with foreigners.


  24. #73
    Billy Davies long lost lovechild.
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Posts
    41,718

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Hmmm....

    You'll win nowt wi' kids.

    I thought the idea was to win promotion, or has that gone out the window too?
    Ha, I'm saying which option I'd choose out of the two options,and why Walker would rightly get leeway from some mate.

    My preferred option in terms of actions was the one I suggested pre-season - keep Walker for the cheap backup, sign someone at a modest price who offers a different option to Grabban, but is also good quality & can score. My suggestion being Olivera.

    Last edited by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos; 26-11-19 at 19:13.

  25. #74
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Posts
    9,111

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-aSemedoBlueJeans&Chinos View Post
    Mir's slightly different though in that he'll be back at Wolves season end. So any investment in him will see little return for ourselves.

    Muric & Semedo are the same to me. Unless they're gonna become Forest players, I'd sooner see their game time go to academy players who'll we reap the rewards from.
    Oh I know that, my point was more that Forest fans are renowned for writing players off quickly.
    Quote Originally Posted by Keith View Post
    Hmmm....

    You'll win nowt wi' kids.

    I thought the idea was to win promotion, or has that gone out the window too?
    Those loans he mentioned are also "kids" in football terms, so in other words if we're going to use them may aswell use our own (unless these other kids are already proven to be good enough)

    Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk


  26. #75
    Not that type of player
    Join Date
    Jun 2008
    Location
    The Mixer
    Posts
    37,044

    Default Re: David McGoldrick.

    Quote Originally Posted by gamble View Post
    Oh I know that, my point was more that Forest fans are renowned for writing players off quickly.Those loans he mentioned are also "kids" in football terms, so in other words if we're going to use them may aswell use our own (unless these other kids are already proven to be good enough)

    Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
    They're kids from a higher level of football and so likely to be of better quality. It isnt as simple as replacing a kid with a kid.


 

 

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •