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    Default Guedioura was ....

    Less than optimal.

    Why are people still on about this guy, why oh why oh why oh why?

    By selling him to Palace we got a cracking deal, he wasn't good enough to play for us. If you ignore the goals he scored, he had very little substance. He reminded me very much of Majewski and McGugan in the fact that he'd often score a cracker but his all round game let him down.

    If anybody watched him in the final few games before we sold him he was exceptionally poor, giving the ball away at almost every given opportunity.

    Am I missing something? I can't say I've ever seen anyone voice more of a misguided opinion since I've been a Forest fan than those that say we should of kept Guedioura.


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    "Am I missing something? I can't say I've ever seen anyone voice more of a misguided opinion since I've been a Forest fan than those that say we should of kept Guedioura."

    I don't know I think the love in for Guy Moussi was always confusing.


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    I felt we were a much better team with Guedioura in. For me he was someone who always made himself available for the ball even if it meant he could have spells of losing it more often than others (but let's be honest if he maintained possession as good as Xaxi he would be at a top club).

    Furthermore I go to football to be entertained and his all action displays coupled with great technique, little tricks and turns were highlights in mediocre seasons.

    I think it's harsh to judge him based on his last few games when clearly something wasn't right with him and the dictator. Even when he was off his game the team still looked good.

    To say he wasn't good enough for us in a season that we've seen Greening, Chalobah, Moussi, Peltier et al gracing our midfield is baffling. He's been difficult to replace.


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    we had zip about us when he played. his unbounded enthusiasm cost fouls and he wasn't spot on all the time, but he was industrious, strong and a reasonably well rounded player. (algeria international no less)

    but I can leave him in the past - onwards and upwards with the pearce regime


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    It's amazing how one short period of bad form completely clouded everyone about Guedioura. He was fantastic for a long time.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Halford's Lid View Post
    It's amazing how one short period of bad form completely clouded everyone about Guedioura. He was fantastic for a long time.
    ^This.

    A few dodgy games when trying to adapt to a new position doesn't make him a bad player. The previous 46 games across which he was our best player, does make him a good player


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    The sheer amount of ground he covered in such little time made Adlene a good player anywhere in midfield. He is a big miss for any team.


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    He scored some fucking belters.

    This is why i like the fella.


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    ....Wizardora's boyfriend.


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    Liked those wild long shots. Good player.


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    Don't recall much 'going on about' him until this thread...


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    Vaughan's much more of the type of DM we needed. Geddy was a great player at this level and exciting, but over a season I reckon having Vaughan in the side will get you more points.

    We actually made the right move (Vaughan+2.5m for Geddy) but Vaughan's injury made it seem like a bad move for some.


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    The fact that he looked so good when he came in and then the lustre wore off, shows what strides forward we have made in signing decent players (if they stay fit).


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    Guedioura was a great part of our team, and really made the difference. As I've said before, I used to say on match days when watching him that he's far too good to be playing in the Championship, because at times he made the rest of the pitch look amateur.

    The bad form before his departure probably wasn't coincidental, something had obviously happened 'behind the scenes' that affected his game.
    For all we know he could have requested a transfer and at first been rejected, or he could have tried getting a contract extension with more wages and that been rejected. Either way, you could tell something wasn't right.

    But I'd take him back in a heartbeat.


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    Guedioura was good, but not half as exciting to watch as Greening. Now that man has an eye for goal.


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    Guediora just seemed to run round a lot and throw in rash challenges and the odd goal. 90% of his shots though used to nearly leave the stadium and a fair percentage of his tackles ended up in fouls and as I seem to remember he was a regular in the referees book.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-Inge of Fudge View Post
    Vaughan's much more of the type of DM we needed. Geddy was a great player at this level and exciting, but over a season I reckon having Vaughan in the side will get you more points.

    We actually made the right move (Vaughan+2.5m for Geddy) but Vaughan's injury made it seem like a bad move for some.
    Agree with this.

    If we're going to play 4-2-3-1 next season then Vaughan and Lansbury as the sitting two is stronger than either of those two plus Guedioura.

    However, saying that, we have missed him this season and his energy in centre midfield would give us options if he were to rejoin. I think I'd also have him above both Lansbury and Vaughan in a flat 4-4-2 purely based on the ground he covers.

    If the reported ~£3m was correct it wasn't bad business, but we never really replaced his box-to-box nature and it cost us points. I'd have him back. We need more central midfielders and he'd be relatively cheap, knows the club and will look a better player when the side is more expansive than it was when he left for Palace - a crappy narrow 4-1-2-1-2 which limited us in so many ways.


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    Slightly reckless player but overall had some quality and drive in his play.

    The recklessness showed in his wild shots (many complained about McGugan doing this but Guedioura was just as bad) and the silly fouls he would commit.


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    He didn't have the best start to the season last year, admittedly, but i think Billy played him a little too defensive. He was a bit like our David Luiz, prone to recklessness or brilliance at any time.
    Also, had he stayed, maybe Abdoun would have been better?


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    Those of us who were away at Leeds, saw exactly what Adlene Guedioura brought to Nottingham Forest.

    He absolutely grabbed the game by the scruff of the neck and turned it around. As dominant a Midfield performance as you will see.

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    Default Re: Guedioura was ....

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf-Inge of Fudge View Post
    Vaughan's much more of the type of DM we needed. Geddy was a great player at this level and exciting, but over a season I reckon having Vaughan in the side will get you more points.

    We actually made the right move (Vaughan+2.5m for Geddy) but Vaughan's injury made it seem like a bad move for some.
    If we manage to get half a season out of Vaughan then we will have done very well indeed.


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    Served us well while he was here, despite the silly fouls and the wasted long range shots.
    Good bit of business when we sold him at a profit.
    I am neither overjoyed nor underwhelmed by the thought of him returning - better option that Jonathan Greening, but that is as far as I would go.


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    I always had the impression that Pep was a bit more about himself than the team and so when the spectacular stuff came off it was great but it was driven by his desire to be the hero rather the team overall to be the star and when he made silly fouls or tried to do too much with the ball it was because he had too high an estimation of his own abilities. I'd have him back but wouldn't try to build a team around him.

    Provided us some great moments but, overall, I'd say Vuaghan will do better than him as the holding midfielder and Henri is a better marauding CM.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Clarks Tash View Post
    If we manage to get half a season out of Vaughan then we will have done very well indeed.
    Not sure he's the crock some make out. He's started over 300 games in his career and came on as sub for over 50 more.

    Nature of his game and position means he'll pick up knocks and injuries, and we will need cover (a young DM in the Lascelles "understudy" mold ideally), but can't see why you'd be so certain of that?


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    I'm rubbing my eyes and can't believe some of the comments on this thread. Yes he had a few poor games (everyone does) but on the whole he is everything you wanted in a central midfielder. At times he dominated games with his pace and drive, some of his turns and passing was a joy to watch. Yes he but in a rash challenge and yes some of his shot were wayward at best but come on. I'd take him back in a heartbeat and depending what formation we do play, he could be the perfect foil for vaughan in the middle with lansbury pushed up into that no.10 where he is best.


 

 

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