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    Default Stats thread - season 2017-18

    Like me I know some of you are interested in the numbers, and increasingly they are a part of the game, so I thought it would be good to have a dedicated thread. Stats often end up on matchday threads or in random other places so it would be good to be able to find them in one place.

    I notice the Expected Goals (xG) stat has now become so popular it's now being used by MOTD and the BBC website. Here's the current top 5 xG for game 3 courtesy of @EFLstats:


    1. Millwall 2.2
    2 Nott'm Forest 1.96
    3 Middlesbrough 1.79
    4 Wolves 1.77
    5 Cardiff 1.51


    Not a bad start...

    Last edited by Ravi; 17-08-17 at 11:27. Reason: For GW3
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    How do they calculate expected goals? Is it simply an average of goals per game?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Project Zeus View Post
    How do they calculate expected goals? Is it simply an average of goals per game?

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    "Expected goals" is a metric which assesses every chance, essentially answering the question of whether a player should have scored from a certain opportunity.

    Put simply, it is a way of assigning a "quality" value (xG) to every attempt based on what we know about it. The higher the xG - with 1 being the maximum - the more likelihood of the opportunity being taken.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/amp/football/40699431


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    Forest and Boro are 2nd and 3rd for expected goals. So 0-0 on Saturday then.


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    More than 10 people a year are killed by a vending machine!


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    Could our high standing have more to do with the opposition than us? It will be interesting to look at the end of September - some tough games coming up! The most important thing for me is that we pick up enough points to not have to worry about relegation - we've seen the improvements in the style of play,we're getting exciting games long may this continue - re stats we should include average possession and shots both on and off target


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    Quote Originally Posted by redforest View Post
    Could our high standing have more to do with the opposition than us? It will be interesting to look at the end of September - some tough games coming up! The most important thing for me is that we pick up enough points to not have to worry about relegation - we've seen the improvements in the style of play,we're getting exciting games long may this continue - re stats we should include average possession and shots both on and off target
    The above is expected goals For. I can't find our expected goals against, which is a measure of the quality of chances being created on our goal, but I'd imagine we're nearer the bottom than the top.


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    Default Re: Stats thread - season 2017-18

    I think those xG stats in the OP are just for the games this week, not an average.

    Our games so far this season:

    Forest 0.47 - 3.38 Millwall

    Brentford 1.01 - 1.62 Forest

    Barnsley 0.74 - 1.96 Forest


    11tegen11 is worth a follow on Twitter if you're interested in this sort of stuff.


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    This also shows the impact Warbs has had on performance.

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    Great!


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    Courtesy of @11tegen11


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    Quote Originally Posted by MASE View Post
    More than 10 people a year are killed by a vending machine!
    It needs catching then. Where's the manhunt? If it was an foreign vending machine, the Daily Mail would be all over this story.

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    Default Re: Stats thread - season 2017-18

    Ed Shirbon‏ @edshirbon 6h6 hours ago

    Most chances created 2017-18 Championship

    Barrie McKay 11
    George Moncur 10
    Adam Hamill 9
    Aiden McGeady 9
    Ollie Watkins 9


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    Quote Originally Posted by nffc13 View Post
    Ed Shirbon‏ @edshirbon 6h6 hours ago

    Most chances created 2017-18 Championship

    Barrie McKay 11
    George Moncur 10
    Adam Hamill 9
    Aiden McGeady 9
    Ollie Watkins 9
    No Osborn


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    Default Re: Stats thread - season 2017-18

    Yeah, but Scottish football is a joke, isn't it? And any player from that league is a pub-team clogged?


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    Deep completion and very deep completion!


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    Expected goals (xG) game 4 top teams:
    1 Birmingham 2.3
    2 QPR 2.1
    3 Aston Villa, Nott'm Forest 2
    5 Sheff Utd 1.9

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    Dowell's 87.3% pass completion rate is really quite impressive when you consider some of the adventurous play we've seen from him so far. He's second only to McKay (3) when it comes to key passes per game (1.8 ).

    The Bouch is the king of possession though - 61 passes per game and an 89.2% completion rate. Vaughan is similar in these departments.

    The thought of Lansbury playing in place of Bouch makes me cringe, as the system would be far less successful. He has a 74.7% pass completion rate so far this year at Villa - rubbish. The Bouch is a superior midfielder, and clearly much better value for money.

    There's loads more here for people who like this sort of thing - https://www.whoscored.com/Teams/174/...tingham-Forest


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    Quote Originally Posted by tropix View Post
    The Bouch is the king of possession though - 61 passes per game and an 89.2% completion rate. Vaughan is similar in these departments.
    Bouchalakis' completion rate becomes more impressive if one takes into account that he is -by far- the player with the biggest number of long passes. He is also the king of possesion in a different sense: he hasn't been dispossessed of the ball (compare to Osborn's 2.3 losses of the ball per game). He is also the statistical leader in interceptions by a mile (2.7 per game compared to Mancienne's 1.8 who is in second place), and is in second place in successful tackling (2 per game, Darikwa leads with 2.5).

    Pretty impressive stats. I'm sure many Olympiacos fans will be baffled.

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    The consistent accuracy of his long passes is a feature, as is the speed of his one touch passing. I would suggest the latter along with his physicality is why he's rarely dispossessed. He has the ball under control the instant he receives it.

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    Default Re: Stats thread - season 2017-18

    I read about this expected goals thing the other day, very interesting and should shut up a few of the shite pundits who constantly say stuff like "should have scored that half volley on his wrong foot from 25 yards with 5 defenders in front of him"


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    What impressed me more with Bouch is his vision.

    He tries the long pass because inevitably he's seen a team-mate down the field in space.

    Lad's got a radar.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreeksBearingGifts View Post
    Bouchalakis' completion rate becomes more impressive if one takes into account that he is -by far- the player with the biggest number of long passes. He is also the king of possesion in a different sense: he hasn't been dispossessed of the ball (compare to Osborn's 2.3 losses of the ball per game). He is also the statistical leader in interceptions by a mile (2.7 per game compared to Mancienne's 1.8 who is in second place), and is in second place in successful tackling (2 per game, Darikwa leads with 2.5).

    Pretty impressive stats. I'm sure many Olympiacos fans will be baffled.
    Very impressive indeed. He has the potential to become a cult favourite - hopefully he enjoys it here.


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    Default Re: Stats thread - season 2017-18

    On another note mathematically, if its the right term,

    given our current starting form, I'd be happy with a 2 wins to one loss ratio, which over the season (44 games) would give us 84 points from 42 games,
    with two games to decide. In a realistic world though I'll put up with what we are able to achieve.


 

 

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