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    Lost their last three games of the season to drop out of the autos and then completely choked in the playoffs. Reading over the Mansfield forums they weren't happy at all with some of Flitcroft's team selections and formations, and the players he left out of the side (Grant in particular). Two shots at promotion with one of the biggest budgets in that league and the best he could do is get them to the first round of the playoffs... Not good.


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    The media don't seem to be saying that the appointment of the academy is temporary, if it is permanent it shows a real lack of ambition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey View Post
    Looking at their start to the season...

    .....

    They looked certain for success scoring, as they did, 25 in 16


    By "relegation battle", do you mean 7th, 12th or 14th?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alabamared View Post
    The media don't seem to be saying that the appointment of the academy is temporary, if it is permanent it shows a real lack of ambition.

    It is permanent. This is the part of the statement on John Dempster.

    “In John, we have a man who is considered to be one of the brightest and most innovative young coaches in football.

    “His success with the youth team over the past few seasons has been remarkable and he now deserves the opportunity to manage the first team.

    “John will have our full backing. He is appointed as manager of a club which is widely considered as one of the best operations in football.

    “His rebuilding process starts today and we encourage all Stags’ supporters to welcome John into the position as a new era at One Call Stadium gets under way.”


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    Not surprised, but the players have to take some responsibility for missing out on promotion.
    Sure, and that’s always the case, but the buck stops with the manager. It’s his job to get them performing.

    I haven’t watched them as much as you this season Bryn, but they were poor in the play offs.

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    Fucking brilliant Good season, playoffs to build on, scrap it all off & start again with someone who's barely managed a first team

    No Tyler next year, get your money on them going down.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MansfieldRed View Post
    It is permanent. This is the part of the statement on John Dempster.

    “In John, we have a man who is considered to be one of the brightest and most innovative young coaches in football.

    “His success with the youth team over the past few seasons has been remarkable and he now deserves the opportunity to manage the first team.

    “John will have our full backing. He is appointed as manager of a club which is widely considered as one of the best operations in football.

    “His rebuilding process starts today and we encourage all Stags’ supporters to welcome John into the position as a new era at One Call Stadium gets under way.”
    He’s the next Eddie Howe according to that.

    Let’s hope their faith in him is well placed.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravi View Post
    Sure, and that’s always the case, but the buck stops with the manager. It’s his job to get them performing.

    I haven’t watched them as much as you this season Bryn, but they were poor in the play offs.
    They were Ravi but in the Newport game at least the strikers missed some sitters, that includes Hamilton, Walker and Rose. They're split second decisions that a manager is not accountable for. Especially when they've been putting them away for most of the season.
    I get it though, given the budget he's had it was promotion or nothing this season.

    I wouldn't count last season as a failure, different manager to Evans and there was bound to be a period of transition. Some players were Evans men as well, I'm sure Danny Rose (a key player) put himself in for a transfer request as soon as Evans left.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    They were Ravi but in the Newport game at least the strikers missed some sitters, that includes Hamilton, Walker and Rose. They're split second decisions that a manager is not accountable for. Especially when they've been putting them away for most of the season.
    I get it though, given the budget he's had it was promotion or nothing this season.

    I wouldn't count last season as a failure, different manager to Evans and there was bound to be a period of transition. Some players were Evans men as well, I'm sure Danny Rose (a key player) put himself in for a transfer request as soon as Evans left.
    It felt like they were launching high balls at Rose most of the night, were they always like that?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Freddie View Post
    It felt like they were launching high balls at Rose most of the night, were they always like that?
    No, that pissed me off as well. It's like they got dragged down to Newports level.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    No, that pissed me off as well. It's like they got dragged down to Newports level.
    And we are experts in assessing that sort of failing, having witnessed Forest fall into the same trap v the hoofballers over the years.


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    The season ticket prices haven't gone down too well over at the Stags.
    Early bird is £350 and the cheapest match day ticket on the day will be £24.50

    They won't be encouraging many floating fans at those prices.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    The season ticket prices haven't gone down too well over at the Stags.
    Early bird is £350 and the cheapest match day ticket on the day will be £24.50

    They won't be encouraging many floating fans at those prices.
    £24.50 is almost €28 - for fourth-tier Football?

    You can watch the Bundesliga for a little extra than that. And your match-ticket includes citywide public transport to and from the stadium too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    £24.50 is almost €28 - for fourth-tier Football?

    You can watch the Bundesliga for a little extra than that. And your match-ticket includes citywide public transport to and from the stadium too.
    Crazy isn't it Chris.

    On top of that it's a town that has been hit heavily with austerity and high unemployment.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Strummer View Post
    £24.50 is almost €28 - for fourth-tier Football?

    You can watch the Bundesliga for a little extra than that. And your match-ticket includes citywide public transport to and from the stadium too.
    Yeah but second rate football nations like Germany can’t charge the same as the big boys like England


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    Crazy isn't it Chris.

    On top of that it's a town that has been hit heavily with austerity and high unemployment.
    Although from the outside looking in it may seem expensive. But clubs will have to make so much income before the season starts, so these tickets will be priced so as to give them that income needed on projected season ticket sales, could they guarantee making that many more sales if they dropped the prices? Which in turn leads to high match day ticket costs because they cant make them cheaper than what a season ticket would cost, they have also have no “local” Derby this season the nearest teams being Grimsby, Northampton or Crewe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    The season ticket prices haven't gone down too well over at the Stags.
    Early bird is £350 and the cheapest match day ticket on the day will be £24.50

    They won't be encouraging many floating fans at those prices.
    The yellow and blue foam hand won't be getting much action next season by the sounds of it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by uredsuns View Post
    Although from the outside looking in it may seem expensive. But clubs will have to make so much income before the season starts, so these tickets will be priced so as to give them that income needed on projected season ticket sales, could they guarantee making that many more sales if they dropped the prices? Which in turn leads to high match day ticket costs because they cant make them cheaper than what a season ticket would cost, they have also have no “local” Derby this season the nearest teams being Grimsby, Northampton or Crewe.


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    Possibly not unless they are at the top end of the league.

    One of the main gripes is encouraging youngsters and there are comparisons to Forest being made. I think we offer an 18 year old season ticket for something like £80, where as at Stags it's £350, or £24.50 on the day. Where are they gonna go?

    Quote Originally Posted by GOBIAS View Post
    The yellow and blue foam hand won't be getting much action next season by the sounds of it.
    Doesn't look like it mate, on principle. Unless they do a membership scheme again that made home games £11.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    Possibly not unless they are at the top end of the league.

    One of the main gripes is encouraging youngsters and there are comparisons to Forest being made. I think we offer an 18 year old season ticket for something like £80, where as at Stags it's £350, or £24.50 on the day. Where are they gonna go?


    Doesn't look like it mate, on principle. Unless they do a membership scheme again that made home games £11.

    Of course the youth are not going to want to pay them prices, but firstly you have to get them away from the mentality that the Premier league is the be all and end all of football. While that is being rammed down their throats its going to be doubly difficult to attract them. I dont know Mansfield well do any of the sports shops in the town stock Stags kits?



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    Quote Originally Posted by uredsuns View Post
    Of course the youth are not going to want to pay them prices, but firstly you have to get them away from the mentality that the Premier league is the be all and end all of football. While that is being rammed down their throats its going to be doubly difficult to attract them. I dont know Mansfield well do any of the sports shops in the town stock Stags kits?



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    No, like no sports shops in Nottingham stock Forest shirts.

    Support is passed down through generations unless you encourage it.

    A short story here... I live about 4 miles from Field Mill but my parents were Forest fans from the sixties, I was brought up to support Forest and got taken to games.
    When I was a young teenager me and a few pals would go into Mansfield on a Saturday, in my case if Forest weren't at home. We'd wander about, as you do, then one day someone suggested going to the Mansfield match. They were playing Reading and it was 1984.
    We found the ground, eventually, armed with our paper round money, paid in and loved it. It was our first taste of independence watching a football game, none of us supported Mansfield, my two mates were Derby and Man United.
    All three of us have continued to go when we can since that day.

    How many young Bryns are the club going to capture now at the prices they charge?


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    Interesting point there Bryn.

    When I was young and fancy free, we'd all meet up in the pub (in Putney in those days) have a pint and a chat and then decide to go to a match, sort of spontaneously.

    These days, it seems to be an altogether more planned and expensive outing; no wandering up to the turnstile and handing over 1/9 (or whatever) at the last minute.

    And did you ever know anybody who had a season ticket? It was years before I even knew they existed.


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    To be fair it's £14.50 for under 17's but i still think that's a lot for say, a 12 year old lad to cough up.
    Or am I out of touch? What do paper rounds pay these days? Do kids even do them anymore?

    I suppose the pricing is structured more towards families booking online than a bunch of young lads wandering up to the ground and paying in spontaneously.
    God, I do miss the old days sometimes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    To be fair it's £14.50 for under 17's but i still think that's a lot for say, a 12 year old lad to cough up.
    Or am I out of touch? What do paper rounds pay these days? Do kids even do them anymore?

    I suppose the pricing is structured more towards families booking online than a bunch of young lads wandering up to the ground and paying in spontaneously.
    God, I do miss the old days sometimes.
    Someone will correct me, but doesn’t that represent more than the equivalent minimum wage for a 17-year old?

    So he or she would have to work more than the 90 minutes that the match lasts, to afford a ticket?

    Not exactly conducive to bringing in the numbers of new, young, fans is it?


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    Clubs dont care at all about supporters, I've never known it as bad, the last 20 year they've said "Fuck you, fuck off if you don't like us rubbing shit in your eyes".


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryn Gunn View Post
    God, I do miss the old days sometimes.
    Chasing after that sweet teen Mansfield skirt?


 

 

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